Triumph1300
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So, the US is now at war with Iran.
I always thought these kind of actions, declaring war, had to go through Congress for approval.
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I always thought these kind of actions, declaring war, had to go through Congress for approval.
Rockerduck
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Congress declares wars. The President defends our allies. For instance, it was President Jefferson who sent the army to Tripoli to defeat the barbary pirates. President Reagan told the navy to destroy Iran's navy and also shoot a missile into Momar Gaddafi's mansion. President Clinton assisted Serbia in the Croatian war. The list is long.
Triumph1300
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And it all ended in disaster.
It did cost a lot of young American lives.
Nothing was solved, now history repeats itself now.
Congress should have a say in these situations, not just one person.
Rockerduck
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535 people in congress will never agree completely. That's why authority is placed on the President.
Triumph1300
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I can see that if the US was attacked.
That's not the case.
Representatives of the people need to vote and follow the majority vote.
It's dangerous to let one person decide to go to war.
Don't be fooled, because this is about war and not a small "incident".
Ronald David Bruno
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Not yet, but it looks likely. Once our bombs are dropped from our planes _ by our military, then it would be considered by them an act of war. But it's not really waging war on a whole country, it's just destroying a nuclear facility or more. I would have preferred that the Israelis were trained to fly our B-2 and give them the bombs - let them do it.
Yeah, I thought a full on war had to go through Congress - unless we are attacked, then we must respond quickly, no time to gather a session and vote on it.
A war against Iran would be targeting not only nuclear sites but military sites AND PEOPLE. It would be devastating for them. If they used nukes against us, they will be toast.
Israel is at war and we are their allies, so we are assisting so far.
Rockerduck
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I'm not fooled; you are. The Korean war was not declared by congress. It was a police action by President Truman at the time. If a Nato country is attacked, the President, not congress, decides militarily. The list is long.
When Iran says they will attack the US.
They don''t mean the Continental US. They refer to the many bases in their neighborhood. Iran has nothing to reach us at this time.
For all the supposed hypersonic warheads they are supposed to have .......Iran is doing a pretty poor job of penetrating the Iron Dome. Big deal, get one through while everyone is in the bomb shelter and no one is home.
They don''t mean the Continental US. They refer to the many bases in their neighborhood. Iran has nothing to reach us at this time.
For all the supposed hypersonic warheads they are supposed to have .......Iran is doing a pretty poor job of penetrating the Iron Dome. Big deal, get one through while everyone is in the bomb shelter and no one is home.
Few of us believe in a single word you sputter......
Triumph1300
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Believe what you want.
I think it's pretty poor business for a bunch of Christians promoting to go to war without approval through congress on behalf of the people.
Christians should promote peace and decent government.
Maybe you folks talk differently when the body bags come back to the US on behalf of a nutcase of a president.
(A Draft dodger himself)
Specially when this guy said he would stop all wars the first week in office.
I would hate to see body bags with 19-22 year olds coming back.
Maybe you think differently when they are your relatives.
Trump is making a decision on whether to use these B2 bomber MOP bombs on the nuclear site under the mountain.
I was thinking, what if it actually does not do the job?
What an embarrassment.
That would tell the world this US bunker buster is defeatable.
Because it has only been used one time. The deterrence value assumes the fear of it.
I was thinking, what if it actually does not do the job?
What an embarrassment.
That would tell the world this US bunker buster is defeatable.
Because it has only been used one time. The deterrence value assumes the fear of it.
Triumph1300
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The biggest embarrassment is the fact that members of Trump's cabinet
in the situation room have no idea what Trump is going to do.
He does not even know himself what he will do.
This is a bit different from negotiating with trade union construction workers in New York City.
When all hell breaks out in that area, be prepared to pay double for your gasoline when filling your car.
International shipping will be disrupted.
According to the polls only a minority of the American people are in favour of this coming disaster.
This is where people should actually understand our style of government before criticizing it.
The President is the one person in the county that represents all of us. Congressmen represent small fractions of us, but the president is elected by and represents the entire population. He is our chief executive, and bears that responsibility.
Much love!
Triumph1300
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According to a high placed official in the administration there is no evidence of nuclear development in Iran.
When she mentioned it Trump's answer yesterday was "I don't care".
Remember Sadam Hussein's "mass destruction stock pile" ?
Turned out there was none!
Maybe some of you people should stop listening to Lindsay Graham.
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