David in NJ
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How do you see this as pertaining to your "we won't be here, that's for the next wave"
Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'
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How do you see this as pertaining to your "we won't be here, that's for the next wave"
rebuilder 454
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Never mind.
Keep believing it was a ruse.
Ignore the absurdity of what you are presenting.
Yawn.
Not a sliver of that matters.
Nameaboveallnames
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David in NJ
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OK - i just wanted to verify that i understood you correctly = which i did and i THANK YOU for confirmation.
Now, what was the wound that the Caelian Hill received???
Nameaboveallnames
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Did you read all three parts of my response? I am asking because I answered that question already. Basically, the "wound" occurred when the Papacy was stripped of its power back in 1870.
Earburner
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There will be a Global Economic collapse of the present economic system that will bring on the mark.
The UNsaved of the world and all superficial religious christians will think it to be a good thing to take the Digital ID (to you and I it's the MoB), which will come by way of a Universal Basic Income (UBI) program of FREE Digital money (fiat "gold") for ONE year. 1 Kings 10:14
[14] Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon [freely] in one year was six hundred threescore and six (666) talents of gold.
By the way, stop believing in escapism.
pandaflower
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You make false accusations toward me and what you falsely claim I posted and then call my proof of what I actually posted ,ignoring the absurdity of my claim.
Facts really get under your skin.
David in NJ
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Is this what you are referring to as "the wound"
Vatican during the Savoyard era (1870–1929) - Wikipedia
Nameaboveallnames
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I quickly looked at your link, but, yes, I am referring to what happened to the Papacy back in 1870. That is when "the deadly wound" was received, and it was "healed" with the signing of the Lateran Treaty in 1929.Is this what you are referring to as "the wound"
Vatican during the Savoyard era (1870–1929) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
David in NJ
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OK
Since we are not 'face to face' nor 'ear to ear' , i must ask questions to make sure i am alligning with your thoughts/words
i have to go to work now - text with ya later
Nameaboveallnames
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I do not mind the questions. In fact, I am enjoying our mature dialogue. Seeing how I am rather busy myself, I am going to quickly add something to turn this back to "the mark of THE BEAST" itself.
I have already covered some of the biblical descriptors we are given (there are more) that show that the Vatican/the Papacy is “the beast” to whom “the mark of the beast” will ultimately belong. With such being the case, are there any indicators in our day and age that show that the Vatican is seeking control of this world’s finances?
Yes, there are. Quite a few, actually.
Here is one such indicator. Back in 2009, “pope” Benedict wrote a papal encyclical entitled “Caritas in veritate” or “Charity in truth.”
If any of you would like the read the entire encyclical for yourselves, then you can do so here:
Caritas in veritate (June 29, 2009)
Agápe, macro-relationships, social conscience, responsibility, social action, private interests, logic of power, social fragmentation, globalized society, lógos, Mater Ecclesiae, Pauline Year, human advancement, Church's ever-living Tradition, Fathers of the Church, Populorum Progressio...
Here is but a sample of how the Media reported on the same:
When the "popes" call for a “global authority” or “world political authority” whose task would be “to manage the global economy,” just who do you suppose they have in mind for the job?
It could not be THEMSELVES, could it?
You can bet your bottom dollars that this is precisely who they have in mind for the job.
Now, before any of you even begin to think, “GET A GRIP, MAN! NOBODY READS PAPAL ENCYCLICALS, AND NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT THE ‘POPES’ THINK!,” you need to seriously consider the following reality:
THE WORLD BANK READS PAPAL ENCYCLICALS, AND THE WORLD BANK CARES ABOUT WHAT THE “POPES” THINK.
Do not take my word for it.
From the World Bank’s website:
Pope Paul VI's Encyclical: On the Development of Peoples
In recognition of Pope Francis's visit to Washington, D.C., we look at Pope Paul VI's 1967 encyclical.
www.worldbank.org
The World Bank has embraced the Papacy’s views on the global economy since at least the time that “pope” Paul VI’s papal encyclical on this very topic was written way back in 1967.
Furthermore, former World Bank Group President Kim (July 2012 through January 2019) met with “pope” Francis at the Vatican in 2013 to discuss this very topic.
Here is the video that he made about their meeting:
Although I cannot presently tell you exactly how all of this will ultimately unfold, I can guarantee you that the day is coming in which the Vatican/the Papacy, as the long-prophesied kingdom of antichrist, will oversee this world’s finances.
I can also guarantee you that there will be a “mark” that will be associated with the Vatican without which no one will be able to buy or sell, and that “mark” will more than likely be an implantable RFID microchip.
Rockerduck
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Well, the Holy Spirit told me otherwise, there will be a rapture, and I've seen it in a vision. My opinion is unchangeable as it was a gift to me to tell others.
Earburner
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Yes, I strongly agree that the "another beast" is none other than the USA. It is that Beast having two horns [like a young lamb] that urges/deceives the people of the world into making the image to the beast, of which they have done. We know of it today as the United Nations.Hi, David.
I agree with you that "the mark of the beast" will be "worldwide" in scope, but this does not negate the fact that "the mark of the beast" is just that:
"The mark of THE BEAST."
As I rightly stated earlier, we are given several descriptors of this particular "beast" or "king" (Dan. 7:17) and his "kingdom" (Dan. 7:23) in scripture, and they all point directly to the Vatican/the Papacy.
Here is what we know about "the mark" and its eventual implementation:
Revelation chapter 13
[1] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[2] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[3] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[4] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[5] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[6] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[9] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[10] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
In what we just read, there are clearly two different "beasts" or "kingdoms" being described. There is "the first beast" or "the first beast before him" (vs. 12), and there is "another beast" (vs. 11). We are given different descriptors of these two distinct "beasts" or "kingdoms," and I would be happy to go over some of those descriptors with you in future posts if you are but interested in the same. In any case, it is the "another beast" who will work in conjunction with "the first beast" or "the first beast before him" in the last days to force its implementation, but "the mark of the beast" is definitely associated with "the first beast" or with "the first beast before him." Personally, I believe that I could make a very strong biblical and historical case that this "another beast" is none other than the United States of America. With such a belief, I do believe that Trump and other US Presidents have had and will continue to have a role in the eventual implementation of "the mark of the beast."
I do believe that the whole "Scam-demic" was a precursor for conditioning people to receive "the mark of the beast." Especially the forehead scanners that were implemented at that time to take people's temperatures.
CONDITIONING SOCIETY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST - SafeGuardYourSoul
If I can shame you long enough to do something, even Christians will comply. When businesses have to check your forehead for a fever before you enter and thensafeguardyoursoul.com
Btw, I grew up in a small town in Bergen County, NJ.
What part of New Jersey are you from?
It is the Image (the UN) that CAUSES all people to take the MoB.
Rev. 13
[15] And he [USA] had power [authority] to give [political] life unto the image of the beast [the UN], that the image of the beast [the UN] should both SPEAK, and CAUSE that as many as would not worship the image of the beast [the UN] should be killed.
[16] And he [the UN] CAUSETH all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Note:
We must not lose sight of the fact that earthly Jerusalem is ALSO built upon SEVEN hills!
As for Mystery Babylon the Great, the MOTHER of harlots, in all of the NT scriptures, there are only Two prophetic " MOTHERS".
The Pope/Vatican is not it!!
Please study all of Gal. 4:1-31.
One IS FALLEN from God's Grace, being that of earthly Jerusalem and the other IS BLESSED in God's Grace, being that of HEAVENLY Jerusalem, which is the Mother of us all, who are of faith in The Lord Jesus, (including Christians of faith in Christ of the Roman Catholic church).
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Nameaboveallnames
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I am glad to hear it.
I started a blog on this topic earlier today, but it is awaiting approval from the moderators. I will post a link to it when it is up and running.
Earburner
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Ok, I will be glad to read it.
What I have posted is only a smattering of what I thoroughly do understand.
My position is MBTG, the "MOTHER" of harlots cannot be the The 10 H Beast also.
I am sure we will agree to many things in common, but not what the10H Beast has evolved into.
pandaflower
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All that's needed to complete the condition of AADS , Anti-America Derangement Syndrome is for ATDS to come out as such people insist President Trump is the Beast.
Meanwhile, it would behoove many to learn what the UN cannot do.
The United Nations Command (UNC) does not have the authority to command citizens of other countries to obey its rulings, as it primarily operates under the mandates of the UN Security Council and focuses on military and diplomatic efforts, particularly in relation to the Korean Peninsula. Its effectiveness relies on the cooperation of member states and their respective governments.
Meanwhile, it would behoove many to learn what the UN cannot do.
The United Nations Command (UNC) does not have the authority to command citizens of other countries to obey its rulings, as it primarily operates under the mandates of the UN Security Council and focuses on military and diplomatic efforts, particularly in relation to the Korean Peninsula. Its effectiveness relies on the cooperation of member states and their respective governments.
Earburner
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I do not deny your vision of the rapture of the church. In fact by my own understanding, given to me by the Spirit of Christ, I see exactly the same thing, but in a different way.
KJV 2Thes. 1:7-10 is a simult-aneous event of the Lord coming in flaming fire for His church, being "raptured" unto Himself and all the wicked unsaved are burned to a crisp.
David in NJ
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The false messiah will declare 'the Year of Jubilee', whereby all who receive the Mark will have debts forgiven as the RESET.
Those who refuse the MoB will become the 'old way' and be blamed for all the past wars.
Therefore, 'they' must purge everyone who holds to the 'old way'.
Those who hold to the 'old way' will become the sacrificial lambs = Revelation chapters 12 thru 14
pandaflower
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Authority of the United Nations
The United Nations (UN) does not have direct authority over individual citizens. Its primary role is to facilitate cooperation among member states and address international issues.Member States' Responsibilities
- Sovereign Equality: Each member state retains its sovereignty and is responsible for its own citizens.
- International Obligations: Member states must fulfill their obligations under the UN Charter, which includes promoting peace, security, and human rights.
UN Actions and Citizens
- Peacekeeping and Human Rights: The UN can intervene in member states to maintain peace or address human rights violations, but this is done through the member states' governments.
- Recommendations and Resolutions: The UN issues recommendations and resolutions that member states are encouraged to follow, but these are not legally binding on individuals.
Conclusion
While the UN influences international law and norms, it does not command free citizens directly. Its authority is exercised through member states, which are responsible for implementing UN decisions within their own jurisdictions.
Nameaboveallnames
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Out of curiosity, who do you believe the United Nations are "united" under?Authority of the United Nations
The United Nations (UN) does not have direct authority over individual citizens. Its primary role is to facilitate cooperation among member states and address international issues.
Member States' Responsibilities
- Sovereign Equality: Each member state retains its sovereignty and is responsible for its own citizens.
- International Obligations: Member states must fulfill their obligations under the UN Charter, which includes promoting peace, security, and human rights.
UN Actions and Citizens
- Peacekeeping and Human Rights: The UN can intervene in member states to maintain peace or address human rights violations, but this is done through the member states' governments.
- Recommendations and Resolutions: The UN issues recommendations and resolutions that member states are encouraged to follow, but these are not legally binding on individuals.
Conclusion
While the UN influences international law and norms, it does not command free citizens directly. Its authority is exercised through member states, which are responsible for implementing UN decisions within their own jurisdictions.
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