BreadOfLife
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So, the majority of Catholics that you’ve personally interviewed were ignorant.In the minds of the majority of Catholic people that I have met in my ministry, they didn’t know the difference between a catechism and a Bible. Whose fault is it that they thought that? And what possible reason could they have for thinking that the Bible is called a catechism?
There are JUST as many ignorant Protestants in MY experience.
In the end – this is THEIR fault and NOT the fault of their priest/pastor.
Too many people don’t prioritize their faith over their personal life or career.
Absolute historical ignorance and anti-Catholic nonsense . . .No, but it did give me a framework so that I could detect religious falsehood when I heard it.
Those without knowledge can be so easily led. The RCC were intent on maintaining ignorance whilst demanding compliance and strict obedience to their clergy, especially the pope, who had no place in the Christianity set up by Jesus. After all, they had the best deterrent...a hell of eternal torment if they dared to question.
The Scriptures have been OPENLY taught since the very beginning. The main difference between then and now – as I have already educated you – is that hand-copied Bibles were almost impossible to come by. Not to mention the fact that MOST people were functionally illiterate anyway. Because of this - evangelization for the first 1500 years of the Church was almost exclusively done ORALLY.
Actually – it’s more like:That doesn’t surprise me. It was predicted to be this way in a world ruled by the devil. (2 Cor 4:3-4)
John 8:32
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
As opposed to Gnostic beliefs that YOU cling to - like the idea that Jesus is NOT God . . .
First of all –Jesus and the Apostles DID quote Scripture as the Word of God.Refusal to accept Sola Scriptura is the all encompassing heresy....the true abomination.....bringing doubt about the value of Scripture in their teachings, your church was able to adopt all manner of unscriptural beliefs and practices and pass them off as “Christian”. Any wonder that they didn’t need Scripture.
If Jesus and his apostles used God’s word as their authority, and quoted from the Scriptures often, why wouldn’t we? Why would anyone call referring to God’s word alone as an “abomination”!?
Jesus himself said...
John 17:14-17....
“I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they do not belong to the world any more than I belong to the world. I am not asking you to take them out of the world, but I do ask you to protect them from the evil one. They do not belong to the world any more than I belong to the world. “Consecrate them in the truth.Your word is truth.” (NCB)
God’s word is all we need.....all else comes from deceitful men. There is no truth in the counterfeit Christianity sown by the devil. Jesus warned that it was coming and people can pretend that it didn’t, but history shows us that corruption is everywhere in Christendom’s teachings.....a divided mess who fail to represent what Jesus started....any wonderhe will say....”I never knew you!”
They ALSO quoted Oral Tradition as the Word of God:
Matt. 2:23 - the prophecy "He shall be a Nazarene" is ORAL TRADITION. It is not found in the Old Testament. This demonstrates that the apostles relied upon oral tradition and taught by oral tradition.
Matt 23:2 - Jesus relies on the ORAL TRADITION of acknowledging Moses' seat of authority (which passed from Moses to Joshua to the Sanhedrin). This is not recorded in the Old Testament.
1 Cor. 10:4 - Paul relies on the ORAL TRADITION of the rock following Moses. It is not recorded in the Old Testament. See Exod. 17:1-17 and Num. 20:2-13.
2 Timothy 3:8 - Paul relies on the ORAL TRADITION when speaking of Pharoah’s magicians, Jannes and Jambres. Their names are not recorded in the Old Testament.
Heb. 11:37 - the author of Hebrews relies on the ORAL TRADITION of the martyrs being sawed in two. This is not recorded in the Old Testament.
Jude 9 - Jude relies on the ORAL TRADITION of the Archangel Michael's dispute with Satan over Moses' body. This is not found in the Old Testament.
Jude 14-15 - Jude relies on the ORAL TRADITION of Enoch's prophecy which is not recorded in the Old Testament.
NONE of the verses you provided support the false Protestant invention of Sola Scriptura.
The onus is now on YOU to show me where the Bible states that “the Word of God” includes ONLY that which was written down.
Chapter and Verse, please . . .