MESSAGE TO THE SEVEN CHURCHES SARDIS

[Doug]

MESSAGE TO SARDIS

[Rev 3:1 KJV] 1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

[Rev 3:3 KJV] 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Jesus will come on this church as a thief.

[2Pe 3:10 KJV] 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The Lord coming as a thief is associated with the day of the Lord. The church, the body of Christ,
will not face the wrath of the day of the Lord (Isaiah 13:9 13:13 Ezekiel 7:19 1 Thessalonians 5:2-9). This warning could only be directed to Israel.

[Rev 3:5 KJV] 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

He that overcometh in the verse above is believing Israel who had to believe Jesus is the Son of God for life (John 20:31).

[1Jo 5:5 KJV] 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Jesus will not blot out of the book of life he who overcometh, which is believing Israel.

Believing Israel who overcometh will be confessed before the Father (Matthew 10:32 Luke 12:8 John 12:42).

This church, more than likely, is believing Israel.

 

[rebuilder 454]

MESSAGE TO SARDIS

[Rev 3:1 KJV] 1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

[Rev 3:3 KJV] 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Jesus will come on this church as a thief.

[2Pe 3:10 KJV] 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The Lord coming as a thief is associated with the day of the Lord. The church, the body of Christ,
will not face the wrath of the day of the Lord (Isaiah 13:9 13:13 Ezekiel 7:19 1 Thessalonians 5:2-9). This warning could only be directed to Israel.

[Rev 3:5 KJV] 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

He that overcometh in the verse above is believing Israel who had to believe Jesus is the Son of God for life (John 20:31).

[1Jo 5:5 KJV] 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Jesus will not blot out of the book of life he who overcometh, which is believing Israel.

Believing Israel who overcometh will be confessed before the Father (Matthew 10:32 Luke 12:8 John 12:42).

This church, more than likely, is believing Israel.

The pretrib rapture

 

[Doug]

The pretrib rapture

I believe the church the body will be raptured before the tribulation and the boof of Revelation is centered solely around Israel

 

[Gary Mac]

I believe the church the body will be raptured before the tribulation and the boof of Revelation is centered solely around Israel

Actually the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is with you, or is supposed to be according to Jesus. Luke 17:20-21. The kingdom of God doesnt come with observation at all, and that kingdom came to Jesus in a moments time where a new heaven and earth was open in him proven in Matt 3:16. Same happens to us all who will receive it as Jesus did, as Adam did in Gen 3:22, as Abraham did, Moses did, Mary did, 120 did same Spirit of God came to all of these mainly Jesus. instead of looking for a kingdom to observe for the sweet by and by.

Not many even believe Jesus in Luke 17:20-21 at all do they?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Actually the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is with you, or is supposed to be according to Jesus. Luke 17:20-21. The kingdom of God doesnt come with observation at all, and that kingdom came to Jesus in a moments time where a new heaven and earth was open in him proven in Matt 3:16. Same happens to us all who will receive it as Jesus did, as Adam did in Gen 3:22, as Abraham did, Moses did, Mary did, 120 did same Spirit of God came to all of these mainly Jesus. instead of looking for a kingdom to observe for the sweet by and by.

Not many even believe Jesus in Luke 17:20-21 at all do they?

Well, it is not eirher<>or.
It is both.
One does not prevent the other.

 

[Gary Mac]

Well, it is not eirher<>or.
It is both.
One does not prevent the other.

either-or? What do you mean one does not prevent the other?

Either God has come to you, the place He resides in the kingdom that man is, His temple, Luke 17:20-21, then there is no either or, either you are like Him and in His same spiritual image, that of Love that God is, or you are not. And you know very well if you are of the same God and like Him as Jesus was like. and here is who Jesus said he was in his God that he obeyed and prayed to. And all today who has the same from God say the very same things of ourselves no different at al as Jesus saids of himself in God.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.

 

[Toro55]

Look at it as a individual - which one are you?

 

[Gary Mac]

Look at it as a individual - which one are you?

I am just as Jesus was in the Father, the temple of God, the place He resides, so was Jesus and so is all who has the same mind, Spirit, be in us who was in Jesus, and Adam Gen 3:22, and Abraham, and Moses Mary, 120. Same Spirit of God came to us.

I know who I am in the Father He in me and I in Him are one, my Godhead bodily, the head, or mind, of my body. My identity is with the same God as Jesus identified himself with.

Which one are you?

 

[Toro55]

I make no such claims I am not God - Jesus is God

12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.


14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.


16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”


17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.


18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.


20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”

Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

 

[Gary Mac]

I make no such claims I am not God - Jesus is God

12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.


14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.


16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”


17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.


18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.


20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”

Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

If Jesus was God then who was this Jesus spoke of that he could do noting at all without his God who sent him? Read what he said about himself and the God that he obeyed and prayed to.

Read who Jesus said he was in God the One that spoke of? Tell us plainly without editing in your own opinions who Jesus said he was in God.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.

 

[Toro55]

The Gospel of John is about Jesus divinity you need to read it again.Its called the trinity.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

I am not a JW and am not getting into pointless arguments about Jesus divinity they will go no where.

 

[Gary Mac]

The Gospel of John is about Jesus divinity you need to read it again.Its called the trinity.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

I am not a JW and am not getting into pointless arguments about Jesus divinity they will go no where.

It will go nowhere as long as the same divine Spirit of God Who was in Christ Jesus isnt possible to be in you.

The dive nature of God is in us all who has received in us His divine nature, that of Love. The kingdom of God is within me, it was in Jesus as well. It may not be in you but it is in all who God is our mind to walk in it as He walks in it.

Try listening to Jesus sometime instead of mans opinions about him. Here is who Jesus said he was in Giod. It is obvious that you do not believe him in who he said he was in God but it is truth for e by identification with the same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus.

Who do you say this was Jesus spoke of. If Jesus was God then he spoke of himself and could do nothing without his Father who sent him? So you say Jesus sent himself and actually lied when he said God sent him?

Tell us plainly who Jesus spoke of here if you will, but you won't will you? You cant for if you try and change what Jesus said would make him a liar wouldn't it?

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”


John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.

 

[rebuilder 454]

either-or? What do you mean one does not prevent the other?

Either God has come to you, the place He resides in the kingdom that man is, His temple, Luke 17:20-21, then there is no either or, either you are like Him and in His same spiritual image, that of Love that God is, or you are not. And you know very well if you are of the same God and like Him as Jesus was like. and here is who Jesus said he was in his God that he obeyed and prayed to. And all today who has the same from God say the very same things of ourselves no different at al as Jesus saids of himself in God.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.

The kingdom of God within us can be said to be invisible.
The kingdom of God is visible to the believer.

I can say both.
One does not prevent the other.

 

[Gary Mac]

The kingdom of God within us can be said to be invisible.
The kingdom of God is visible to the believer.

I can say both.
One does not prevent the other.

Only in Spirit can one see His kingdom. His kingdom is Spirit and man is the place of Him, the place God resides. Luke 17:20-21.

It is who we are not a place to observe. Jesus was very clear to Thomas that the Spirit that God is does not have flesh and bone as you see me. Like Moses when he went on the mountain. He couldn't see Gods Spirit, but he could only see where that Spirit had been.

But yes with spiritual eyes we do see God as He really is, but only in Spirit, just as Jesus did in Matt 3:16, for when one does see Him as He is, ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3:2.