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No, God put Trump there for reasons we don't know. But God put favoritism on Trump so many pagans and democrats did vote for him. There is a higher plan. Our battle is not with flesh and blood. Eph. 6:12
I’m sure the German conservatives said the same about Hitler.

Trump is working to bringing in the 2030 agenda just like all the bafoons before him did. And people just keep on voting for them.
 

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Perhaps God allowed Biden to become President to let everybody see the liberal darkness of the Dems-
"He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings utter darkness into the light" (Job 12:22)
so that voters would plump for Trump the next time, and it's worked..sml
 

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I’m sure the German conservatives said the same about Hitler.

Trump is working to bringing in the 2030 agenda just like all the bafoons before him did. And people just keep on voting for them.
What part of the 2030 ag do you see him on? Most people don't understand agenda 21/2030 at all. I actually read it about 15 yrs ago. I have definitely seen Trump work against it, not for it. I haven't been paying much attention lately though. What have you noticed?
 
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Perhaps God allowed Biden to become President to let everybody see the liberal darkness of the Dems-
"He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings utter darkness into the light" (Job 12:22)
so that voters would plump for Trump the next time, and it's worked..sml
I've thought that myself. Same with Mr. O I think perhaps God actually gives us the awful presidents to teach us something.
The Good Lord works mysteriously and He is not sitting in heaven doing nothing in governments as some suppose.
 
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I’m sure the German conservatives said the same about Hitler.

Trump is working to bringing in the 2030 agenda just like all the bafoons before him did. And people just keep on voting for them.
The Christians went to the death camps too. Read about Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Christians spoke out against Hitler.
 
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What part of the 2030 ag do you see him on? Most people don't understand agenda 21/2030 at all. I actually read it about 15 yrs ago. I have definitely seen Trump work against it, not for it. I haven't been paying much attention lately though. What have you noticed?
He pushes mRNA vaccinations (gene therapy/modification), ubiquitous surveillance, 15 minute cities but Trump calls them Freedom cities. He single-handedly wiped out most small businesses during the Covid plandemic and then warp-speeded the Covid bioweapon also known as the Covid vaccine. Now he’s federalizing local police apparently.

I think it might be easier to list the things trump hasn’t done to support agenda 2030. I can’t thing of anything he’s done to thwart agenda 2030, maybe you could point out them out.
 
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He pushes mRNA vaccinations (gene therapy/modification), ubiquitous surveillance, 15 minute cities but Trump calls them Freedom cities. He single-handedly wiped out most small businesses during the Covid plandemic and then warp-speeded the Covid bioweapon also known as the Covid vaccine. Now he’s federalizing local police apparently.

I think it might be easier to list the things trump hasn’t done to support agenda 2030. I can’t thing of anything he’s done to thwart agenda 2030, maybe you could point out them out.
You are confused. It was Pres. Biden who closed down businesses large and small. Most blue states and cities went along with it and even protestors were shut down. Florida was open for business, and many moved there from blue states and opened their business in Florida. The fake Covid spooked democrats, not conservatives.

Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable, they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental.​

Dietrich Bonhoeffer
 
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You are confused. It was Pres. Biden who closed down businesses large and small. Most blue states and cities went along with it and even protestors were shut down. Florida was open for business, and many moved there from blue states and opened their business in Florida. The fake Covid spooked democrats, not conservatives.

Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable, they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental.​

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No I’m not confused. Here is what actually happened.

The national emergency for COVID-19 in the United States was declared by President Donald Trump, not Biden.

Here’s the timeline:

  • January 31, 2020 – Trump declared a public health emergency under the Public Health Service Act. This allowed limited federal response powers and funding.
  • March 13, 2020 – Trump officially declared a national emergency under the Stafford Act. This unlocked much broader federal resources, including funding and logistical support for states.
Joe Biden did not declare the initial emergency—he took office in January 2021, nearly a year after these declarations, and continued federal COVID response measures, but the original national emergency and lockdown framework was initiated under Trump.
 
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No I’m not confused. Here is what actually happened.

The national emergency for COVID-19 in the United States was declared by President Donald Trump, not Biden.

Here’s the timeline:

  • January 31, 2020 – Trump declared a public health emergency under the Public Health Service Act. This allowed limited federal response powers and funding.
  • March 13, 2020 – Trump officially declared a national emergency under the Stafford Act. This unlocked much broader federal resources, including funding and logistical support for states.
Joe Biden did not declare the initial emergency—he took office in January 2021, nearly a year after these declarations, and continued federal COVID response measures, but the original national emergency and lockdown framework was initiated under Trump.
Of course Trump was president. Until Biden was elected, then it went downhill fast. Biden on national tv said "we have a pandemic of the unvaccinated". remember the major push and shaming those who wouldn't take the jab. Military quit, hospital workers forced to take the shot or be fired, the list was long under Biden. Blue states went into overdrive to shut down any public gathering and churches. While letting Walmart stay open.
 
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Of course Trump was president. Until Biden was elected, then it went downhill fast. Biden on national tv said "we have a pandemic of the unvaccinated". remember the major push and shaming those who wouldn't take the jab. Military quit, hospital workers forced to take the shot or be fired, the list was long under Biden. Blue states went into overdrive to shut down any public gathering and churches. While letting Walmart stay open.
It was trump who set the guidelines of the vaccines and lockdowns, Biden just pick up what Trump left. It always works this way, there a tag team, republicans and democrats.

So yeah Biden was an evil piece of garbage that carried on his evil piece of garbage partner Trump.

This is so easy to see, I don’t understand how you can support such evil.
 
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It was trump who set the guidelines of the vaccines and lockdowns, Biden just pick up what Trump left. It always works this way, there a tag team, republicans and democrats.

So yeah Biden was an evil piece of garbage that carried on his evil piece of garbage partner Trump.

This is so easy to see, I don’t understand how you can support such evil.
There you go again. You being a Christian attacking another. I clearly said God is in control and you agreed.
 

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From what I've seen, I believe Trump is up to his eyeballs with Epstein and his activities. And true to his nature, it very much looks to me as though he is doing to the evangelical realm exactly what he and Epstein were doing to naive, hopeful, trusting, deer-in-the-headlights, easily exploitable young girls. Lies, promises, flatteries, manipulation and pressures..........in order to USE them. That's why the video with him "loving" Christians SOOO much was so icky.

In my opinion, Trump loves God, his family, this Nation, making deals, entertaining, company with smart men and beautiful WOMEN, taking care of his own and Generous.
Not at all do I believe Trump is infatuated with sexual interest in children or knowingly want to hob-knob with persons exposed to have interest in sexual perversions, illegal drugs, thievery, etc.

I do not ever expect to cast a Presidential vote, for a perfect person, an all knowing person, a Cleric, a Leader.
I cast my vote for a Servant whose history reveals, they Take care of their own with their Own earned funds, a Smart successful business adventurer, a reputation for taking risks by their own means to provide Jobs for thousands of People, Basic Law knowledge, and diligently focused to work the works they foresee, intend, plan… and watch for Accomplishments.

And if such person…has NOT the “conventional” (Presidential Language elitists expect)…
Better Yet IMO, that they can speak to Any citizen in this Nation…without the circle jerk, say nothing “Political Speak”.
* Not a life Long “Political Sponge” living off The Welfare of the American Peoples Pocket book. (And proud of their paycheck that others work and compelled to provide).
And a “sense of humor”…rather than rigid, also a +.

Regarding Epstein, the John / Bobby Kennedys, old Bush, Hillary, Obama’s…nothing what so ever, about their person, back/ground, personality, efforts, deals, generosity … outside of politics … impress me… and their involvement in Politics are less impressive.

Personally, I like Trump. I like Trump’s visions, goals and efforts for America and her People.

I could care less, if Trump spends one minute mulling over some dead man’s documents looking for evidence against behaviors of political Persons unscrupulous behaviors….

There is a US Justice Department, with Employees, to serve that purpose, be it at the request of the President.
If Results are not forthcoming quick enough for persons of the public at large…
Start a fund, contribute, request more agents to read the thousands pages of documents…and hope for a quick redacted report.
 

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It was trump who set the guidelines of the vaccines and lockdowns, Biden just pick up what Trump left.

It was Trump, who agreed the Government would provide, and distribute, (government approved WHO and CDC vaccines. )

It was Trump who offered anyone “WHO WANTED” the vaccine that it would forthcoming and have the vaccine Available for them.

It was Trump who held concerns About Foreigners / Traveling to and entering in the US… and US citizens having been in foreign lands returning to the US….regarding the Spread of CoVid.

It was Biden…who started…the Vaccine “Requirement list” of must be vaccinated or Forfeit their Jobs / Services / Schooling.

While… Biden opened the flood gates to unvaccinated foreigners… even providing “secret” airline flights To foreign countries, load the plane and fly them to the US and off load them under the cover of darkness, and “secret flight logs”.

I, my family was never jabbed. Never wore masks, Never huddled in our homes in fear to touch one another or go outside, visit… no sick , no died.

The government is not our doctor.
Everyone has a choice.
 
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It was Trump, who agreed the Government would provide, and distribute, (government approved WHO and CDC vaccines. )

It was Trump who offered anyone “WHO WANTED” the vaccine that it would forthcoming and have the vaccine Available for them.

It was Trump who held concerns About Foreigners / Traveling to and entering in the US… and US citizens having been in foreign lands returning to the US….regarding the Spread of CoVid.

It was Biden…who started…the Vaccine “Requirement list” of must be vaccinated or Forfeit their Jobs / Services / Schooling.

While… Biden opened the flood gates to unvaccinated foreigners… even providing “secret” airline flights To foreign countries, load the plane and fly them to the US and off load them under the cover of darkness, and “secret flight logs”.

I, my family was never jabbed. Never wore masks, Never huddled in our homes in fear to touch one another or go outside, visit… no sick , no died.

The government is not our doctor.
Everyone has a choice.
I’m glad you stood against it, so many people just went along with all the idiotic mandates.
 
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It was Trump, who agreed the Government would provide, and distribute, (government approved WHO and CDC vaccines. )

It was Trump who offered anyone “WHO WANTED” the vaccine that it would forthcoming and have the vaccine Available for them.

It was Trump who held concerns About Foreigners / Traveling to and entering in the US… and US citizens having been in foreign lands returning to the US….regarding the Spread of CoVid.

It was Biden…who started…the Vaccine “Requirement list” of must be vaccinated or Forfeit their Jobs / Services / Schooling.

While… Biden opened the flood gates to unvaccinated foreigners… even providing “secret” airline flights To foreign countries, load the plane and fly them to the US and off load them under the cover of darkness, and “secret flight logs”.

I, my family was never jabbed. Never wore masks, Never huddled in our homes in fear to touch one another or go outside, visit… no sick , no died.

The government is not our doctor.
Everyone has a choice.
I stood against it too and preached against it. It looked allot like the mark of the beast. I'm still debating that.
 

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I’m glad you stood against it, so many people just went along with all the idiotic mandates.

Suffered no flu symptoms …have never had the flu vax, only polio vax years ago. No mrr vax. Had 3day hard measles…years ago. never had c- pox or mumps. Don’t take any drugs / script or street. Pretty much don’t get sick. Rarely see a Dr., pretty much limited to a need for stitches occasionally, when I can’t mend myself…when duct tape fails. lol
Don’t trust Govt in the health care business.
 

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Suffered no flu symptoms …have never had the flu vax, only polio vax years ago. No mrr vax. Had 3day hard measles…years ago. never had c- pox or mumps. Don’t take any drugs / script or street. Pretty much don’t get sick. Rarely see a Dr., pretty much limited to a need for stitches occasionally, when I can’t mend myself…when duct tape fails. lol
Don’t trust Govt in the health care business.
I agree. I had a doctor put me on two meds. They will never tell you the side effects. The Holy Spirit told me these drugs were making me sick. I through them in the trash. I felt better than I had in years.
 

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I stood against it too and preached against it. It looked allot like the mark of the beast. I'm still debating that.

Don’t think it was the mark of the Beast.
Rather a Trial run experiment… for the collaborative world nations (governing) Agenda / for population downsizing.
Wars still in effect, but becoming less and less effective to wipe out millions in a short period of time. Food and Medical … tinkering seems to be “their” momentary hot ticket.
 
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Suffered no flu symptoms …have never had the flu vax, only polio vax years ago. No mrr vax. Had 3day hard measles…years ago. never had c- pox or mumps. Don’t take any drugs / script or street. Pretty much don’t get sick. Rarely see a Dr., pretty much limited to a need for stitches occasionally, when I can’t mend myself…when duct tape fails. lol
Don’t trust Govt in the health care business.
I’m the same. The Healthcare system is the Deathcare system. They tried to murder my dad when he went into the hospital with Covid. They refused to give him any vitamins, no ivermectin, and no hydroxychoriquine.

They tried to put him on Remdesivir and that’s when I blew my top. They were just letting him stay their until his oxygen levels went low enough to vent him. Most who went on the vent never came off of it.

The nurses knew what was happening but they couldn’t do anything about. The head nurse pulled me off to the side in tears and thanked me for being an advocate for my dad.
 
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