Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?

[Judas Thomas]

For those who don't want to see the lecture video:
This is Elizabeth Schrader. A theologian specialized on comparing old manuscripts of the Bible.
Here she focuses on Papyrus 66 a "correction" of the Gospel of John, where Maria was corrected to Martha by overwriting the i with a theta.
This led to confusion, theologically and ultimately in the final version we know today it's Mary and Martha.

So we know the church slandered Mary Magdalene a lot, calling her a whore without biblical basis. Her being Lazarus brother makes sense theologically. She was the first to see Jesus beat death and is the first Jesus showed himself to after ressurecton.

Did the church erase her for being a female apostle?

 

[Prycejosh1987]

I agree. It has to be, in the gospel of John film and Gospel of Luke film. Mary Magdalene is Lazarus sister.

 

[Sabé]

Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?​

Mary the Magdalene was the sister of Lazarus and Martha, as well as the unnamed repentant sinner, in the house of Simon the Pharisee. I'll explain why below.

I. An unnamed repentant woman, a well-known sinner, in the house of Simon the Pharisee in Galilee

"A woman in the city who was a sinner, when she knew that he was reclining in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster jar of ointment. Standing behind at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears, and she wiped them with the hair of her head, kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment." (Lk. 7:36-50)

II. Lazarus's and Martha's sister, Mary, or Mary of Bethany, in Simon the Leper's house in Bethany

"Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus from Bethany, of the village of Mary and her sister, Martha. It was that Mary who had anointed the Lord with ointment and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother, Lazarus, was sick. (Jn. 11:1-2)

"Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, a woman came to him having an alabaster jar of very expensive ointment, and she poured it on his head as he sat at the table. "Most certainly I tell you, wherever this Good News is preached in the whole world, what this woman has done will also be spoken of as a memorial of her.” (Matt. 26:6-13)

"While he was at Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at the table, a woman came having an alabaster jar of ointment of pure nard—very costly. She broke the jar, and poured it over his head. "Most certainly I tell you, wherever this Good News may be preached throughout the whole world, that which this woman has done will also be spoken of for a memorial of her.” (Mk. 14:3-9)

"Then six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, who had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. So they made him a supper there. Martha served, but Lazarus was one of those who sat at the table with him. Therefore Mary took a pound of ointment of pure nard, very precious, and anointed Jesus’s feet and wiped his feet with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the ointment." (Jn. 12:1-8)

Bearing in mind all of the scriptural verses above, it's reasonable to deduce that Lazarus and Martha's sister, Mary, or Mary of Bethany, and the unnamed repentant woman, a well-known sinner, in the house of Simon the Pharisee, were the same person.

Second, let's go over what we know of Mary the Magdalene from Scripture:

• Casting out of Seven Demons (Lk. 8:1-2)
• Financially supported Jesus's ministry (Lk. 8:2-3)
• Witness to the Crucifixion (Matt. 27:55-56, Mk. 15:40-41, Jn. 19:25)
• Witness to the Burial (Matt. 27:59-61, Mk. 15:46-47)
• Anointing and Arrival at the Tomb (Matt. 28:1, Mk. 16:1, Lk. 24:1, Jn. 20:1)
• First Witness of Resurrection (or second if you don't believe that His Mother was), and
• Proclaimed Jesus's Resurrection (Mk. 16:9-11, Jn. 20:14-18)

Recap:

In Simon the Pharisee's house, a repentant woman, a well-known sinner, came to Jesus having brought with her an alabaster jar filled with ointment, already feeling repentant for her many sins, and weeping she accused herself, humiliating herself in a humble public confession represented by her tears. Using her hair, she wiped the tears, as well as the ointment, onto Jesus's feet, thus consecrating herself as a disciple of His. In return, Jesus said to her that she was forgiven and saved, because she loved much. (Lk. 7:36-50)

In Simon the Leper's house, Mary of Bethany displayed the same personal gesture as the woman in Simon the Pharisee's house, though it was not humiliated so much, and it was more confidential in its reverent adoration. She came to Jesus having brought with her an alabaster jar filled with ointment, which she had kept for him, and poured the ointment onto His head and feet, without shedding any tears. She felt that Jesus was about to die, and she wanted to anticipate the burial anointing for His body. (Matt. 26:6-13, Mk. 14:3-9, Jn. 12:1-8)

So, yes, at Simon the Leper's house, the personal gesture was not humiliated so much as it was in Simon the Pharisee's house, and it was more confidential in its reverent adoration, and both took place in different locations, but still the same personal gesture in each instance, and it's not unheard of for a person to repeat a personal gesture for different reasons or with a different feeling behind it. There are personal gestures which are repeated and are peculiar to a person, like the person’s style. They are unmistakable gestures.

Final word to those who currently mistakenly believe that Mary of Magdala and Mary of Bethany were not the same person. Bearing in mind what you just read, remember that seven demons were cast out from the former (Lk. 8:1-2), indicating that she would've been a well-known and great sinner as well. Do you consider it impossible that these women were the same person? Do you consider it impossible, if these Marys were the same person, that she was a well-known prostitute, and thus the disgrace of her family, which is why she lived apart from them for a time in Magdala? Do you consider it impossible, if these Marys were the same person, that Mary's conversion was a process, rather than an event? Do you consider it impossible, if these Marys were the same person, that the gesture made in Simon the Pharisee's house marked the dawn of her redemption? Do you consider it impossible that one of the most beautiful conquests of God was Mary the Magdalene, a great sinner, a great convert, and a great disciple?

Additionally, Maria Valtorta, another true spokesperson of God, received and described visions of scenes from Jesus's life on earth. And, according to her account, she confirms that Mary of Magdala, Mary of Bethany, and the unnamed repentant woman, were the same person. The parents of Lazarus, Martha, and Mary were Theophilus—a Syrian, who was the governor of Antioch, a faithful servant of Caesar—and Eucheria. Mary was a well-known prostitute, even among the Romans in Israel, and thus the disgrace of her family. By extension, her family was affected. They couldn't go among people without having to put up with their mockery, including from the Pharisees and scribes, and Martha never married, because no one married the sister of a prostitute. Mary's conversion was a process, rather than an event. She, once a great sinner, became a great convert and disciple. I highly recommend reading The Story of Mary Magdalene (extracts from The Gospel as Revealed to Me, or The Poem of the Man-God), as well as A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta's Extraordinary Work, especially the chapters on the proofs in support of her writings having a supernatural origin.

 

[Grailhunter]

Christ made Lazarus house in Bethany his home base.

Lazarus and Mary Magdalene and Martha were family.

Mary Magdalene funded Christ’s ministry.

Mary Magdalene was not the repentant prostitute.

Not defined by the Bible but Lazarus and Christ’s mother may have been married in Cana….the marriage in Cana.

 

[Sabé]

Christ made Lazarus house in Bethany his home base.

Correct, and it happened to be advantageous for Jesus and His apostles/disciples in that Lazarus's father, Theophilus, a Syrian, had been a governor of Antioch, and a faithful servant of Caesar, and thus he and his family had Roman protection.

Mary Magdalene funded Christ’s ministry.

Mary the Magdalene did contribute financially to Jesus's ministry. For example, in one instance, she gave Jesus her jewelry to be sold, and Judas Iscariot and John of Zebedee were given the task of selling them in Jerusalem.

Lazarus and Mary Magdalene and Martha were family.

Lazarus, Martha, and Mary the Magdalene were siblings. That is correct. Their parents were Theophilus and Eucheria, as shown in post #3.

Mary Magdalene was not the repentant prostitute.

Incorrect. Mary the Magdalene was a well-known prostitute, and then she repented, as shown in post #3.

Not defined by the Bible but Lazarus and Christ’s mother may have been married in Cana….the marriage in Cana

The wedding at Cana couldn't have been for Lazarus and Jesus's Mother, because Mary was already married to Joseph. And, according to Maria Valtorta, who received visions of scenes from Jesus's life on earth, He and all of His relatives were invited to it, and Maria mentioned that because she saw Mary being so familiar with the bridegroom's relatives, it seemed that she was either a relation or close friend of theirs. And, the bride's name was "Susanna", and she later became a disciple of Jesus.

 

[Grailhunter]

Incorrect. Mary the Magdalene was the repentant prostitute in the house of Simon the Pharisee in Bethany, as shown in post #3.

Absolutley nothing in the scriptures to associate Mary Magdalene with the repentent prostitute. This tradition was started by Pope Gregory the Great in the sixth century.

The wedding in Cana couldn't have been that of Lazarus and Jesus's Mother, because Mary was already married to Joseph. And, according to Maria Valtorta, who received visions of scenes from Jesus's life on earth, He and all of His relatives were invited to it, and Maria mentioned that because she saw Mary being so familiar with the bridegroom's relatives, it seemed that she was either a relation or close friend of theirs. And, the bride's name was "Susanna", and she later became a disciple of Jesus.

Apparently Joseph died shortly after Christ’s appearance in the Temple in his youth. He is never mentioned again.

There are a lot of reasons why people believe it is possible that Christ’s mother was married to Lazarus. Still not defined in the scriptures.

 

[Sabé]

Absolutley nothing in the scriptures to associate Mary Magdalene with the repentent prostitute.

You rightly said that Mary the Magdalene was Lazarus and Martha's sister. Both the unnamed repentant woman, a well-known sinner, and Mary the Magdalene, from whom Jesus cast out seven demons, made the gesture of anointing Jesus with ointment and wiping His feet with their hair. This repeated gesture alone shows that it was made by the same woman, because, as I explained in post #3, there are personal gestures which are repeated and are peculiar to a person, like the person’s style. They are unmistakable gestures.

Apparently Joseph died shortly after Christ’s appearance in the Temple in his youth. He is never mentioned again.

The lack of mention of Joseph of Nazareth by the Evangelists after Jesus came of age would be more of an indicator that he died shortly thereafter if they wrote, and if we had a subsequent accounting of his life from birth to and through adulthood up to that point. On the other hand, though, if they did, they most likely would've provided details surrounding the death of Joseph as well. The Evangelist accounts about Joseph that we do have introduced him as an adult considering not having Mary as his wife and ends with him as a married man and father of a twelve-year-old son. The majority of details surrounding Jesus and His family's lives that span over at least twenty years are hidden, and the minimal scriptural details that we do have give no indication of when Joseph died, and thus his death could've occurred at any point after we last heard of him in Luke's Gospel. Thankfully, because Jesus took recourse to visions and showed Maria Valtorta scenes of His life on earth, we do now know when Joseph died. You can read the following chapter in The Gospel as Revealed to Me, or The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I:

Ch. 42. The Death of Saint Joseph

There are a lot of reasons why people believe it is possible that Christ’s mother was married to Lazarus. Still not defined in the scriptures.

Joseph had died before the wedding at Cana and there is no indication in Scripture that it was for Lazarus and Jesus's Mother, Mary. That's correct. It is indicated in Scripture that Joseph of Nazareth and Mary were married though. Furthermore, according to Maria Valtorta, who received visions of scenes from Jesus's life on earth, we know that He and all of His relatives were invited to the wedding at Cana, and Maria mentioned that, because she saw His Mother, Mary, being so familiar with the bridegroom's relatives, it seemed that she was either a relation or close friend of theirs. And, the bride's name was "Susanna", and she later became a disciple of Jesus. Maria also witnessed the appointment of Joseph of Nazareth as Mary's Spouse, their first meeting, and marriage ceremony. You can read the following chapters in The Gospel as Revealed to Me, or The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I:

Ch. 12. Joseph is Appointed Husband of the Virgin
Ch. 13. Wedding of the Virgin and Joseph
Ch. 51. Judas Thaddeus at Bethsaida to Invite Jesus to the Wedding at Cana
Ch. 52. Jesus at the Wedding at Cana

 

[Grailhunter]

You rightly understand that Mary the Magdalene was the sister of Lazarus and Martha, and thus she was the Mary in Lazarus's house in Bethany who anointed Jesus with ointment using her hair. The unnamed woman and well-known sinner who repented in Simon the Pharisee's house in Bethany also anointed Jesus with ointment using her hair. This repeated gesture shows that the former and latter woman were the same person, because, as I explained in post #3, there are personal gestures which are repeated and are peculiar to a person like the person’s style. They are unmistakable gestures.

Of course I disagree.
Unless she is named in the scriptures as the repentant prostitute, she is not the repentant prostitute. We could re-write the whole Bible doing that sort of thing.

 

[Grailhunter]

The lack of mention of Joseph of Nazareth by the Evangelists after the point when Jesus came of age would be more of an indicator that he died shortly thereafter if they wrote, and if we had a subsequent accounting of his life from birth to and through adulthood. On the other hand, though, if they did, they most likely would've provided details surrounding the death of Joseph as well. The Evangelist accounts about Joseph that we do have introduced him as an adult considering not having Mary as his wife and ends with him as a married man and father of a twelve-year-old son. The majority of details surrounding Jesus's and His family's lives that span over at least twenty years are hidden in the Gospels, and the minimal scriptural details that we do have give no indication of when Joseph died, and thus his death could've occurred at any point after we last heard of him in Luke's Gospel. Thankfully, because Jesus took recourse to visions and showed Maria Valtorta scenes of His life on earth, we do now know when Joseph died. You can read the following chapter in The Gospel as Revealed to Me, or The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I:

Like I said, Not defined by the Bible but Lazarus and Christ’s mother may have been married in Cana….the marriage in Cana.

 

[Sabé]

Of course I disagree.

Do you disagree with my saying there are personal gestures which are repeated and are peculiar to a person, like the person’s style? That they are unmistakable gestures? If so, why? Or, do you disagree with my saying that the unnamed repentant woman, and Mary the Magdalene, from whom Jesus cast out seven demons, were the same person because they both anointed Jesus with ointment and wiped His feet with their hair? If so, why?

Like I said, Not defined by the Bible but Lazarus and Christ’s mother may have been married in Cana….the marriage in Cana.

There is no indication in Scripture that the wedding at Cana was for Lazarus and Jesus's Mother, Mary. That's correct. And, like I said,
according to Maria Valtorta, who received visions of scenes from Jesus's life on earth, we know that He and all of His relatives were invited to the wedding at Cana, and Maria mentioned that, because she saw His Mother, Mary, being so familiar with the bridegroom's relatives, it seemed that she was either a relation or close friend of theirs. And, the bride's name was "Susanna", and she later became a disciple of Jesus. Maria also witnessed the appointment of Joseph of Nazareth as Mary's Spouse, their first meeting, and marriage ceremony. You can read the following chapters in The Gospel as Revealed to Me, or The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I:

Ch. 12. Joseph is Appointed Husband of the Virgin
Ch. 13. Wedding of the Virgin and Joseph
Ch. 51. Judas Thaddeus at Bethsaida to Invite Jesus to the Wedding at Cana
Ch. 52. Jesus at the Wedding at Cana

 

[Grailhunter]

Do you disagree with me saying there are personal gestures which are repeated and are peculiar to a person like the person’s style? That they are unmistakable gestures? If so, why? Or, do you disagree with me saying that the repeated gesture of anointing Jesus with ointment using hair by both Mary the Magdalene and the repentant prostitute shows that they were the same woman? If so, why?

You can say you speculate, but to say it is fact would be making the same mistake that Pope Gregory made. But the Bible does not say it.
Honesty is important, if not you can end up deceiving yourself.

 

[Sabé]

You can say you speculate, but to say it is fact would be making the same mistake that Pope Gregory made. But the Bible does not say it.
Honesty is important, if not you can end up deceiving yourself.

You tell me to be honest about what Scripture says, but none of the Evangelists or any other Gospel character said that Mary the Magdalene wasn't the unnamed repentant woman, a well-known sinner, and yet you asserted that she wasn't. Also, while you rightly understand that Lazarus's and Martha's sister, Mary, is Mary the Magdalene, she isn't explicitly identified to be in any Gospel account, and thus you come to accept that belief either through your own inference and guesswork, or from someone outside of Scripture. Why is it okay for you to hold a belief that isn't explicitly stated in Scripture, and then call me dishonest for reaching the same conclusion by pointing to evidence that doesn't explicitly indicate that she was, but rather logically indicates it? And, do you really think that a person can only be identified by name? And, is it only because Luke didn't identify by name the well-known and repentant woman, that you assert she and Mary the Magdalene—both of whom anointed Jesus with anointment and wiped His feet with their hair—couldn't have been the same person?

 

[Grailhunter]

It isn't said in Scripture that Mary the Magdalene wasn't the repentant woman in Simon the Pharisees's house, and yet you asserted that she wasn't.

Does this sentence make any sense to you?

Do you really think that a person can only be identified by name?

No but it takes more details. Unidentified people in the scriptures turned into facts. No way to study scriptures. More details.
Something like Mary Magdalene known to be a prostitute and showing immoral behavior. Instead she finances Christ’s ministry…..she is among His best friends…..and tops every list of females except when His mother is in the list.

And she figures very prominently in early Christian writings and traditions outside of the Bible. So in writings in or out of the Bible she is not defined as immoral or a prostitute.
If you are looking for a forgiven sinner….Peter is your best example.

 

[Sabé]

Does this sentence make any sense to you?

You understood what I said. You told me to be honest about what Scripture says right after your having made the assertion that Mary the Magdalene, and the unnamed repentant woman, weren't the same person, despite there being no scriptural support for that.

No but it takes more details. Unidentified people in the scriptures turned into facts. No way to study scriptures. More details.
Something like Mary Magdalene known to be a prostitute and showing immoral behavior. Instead she finances Christ’s ministry…..she is among His best friends…..and tops every list of females except when His mother is in the list.

And she figures very prominently in early Christian writings and traditions outside of the Bible. So in writings in or out of the Bible she is not defined as immoral or a prostitute.
If you are looking for a forgiven sinner….Peter is your best example.

It's good that you answered with, "No, but it takes more details" to my question "Do you really think that a person can only be identified by name?" Now, I obviously know details are required to identify a person if they aren't by name, and that's why I pointed out certain details to you regarding the following women. Let's finally go over some of those details:

• A well-known woman, a great sinner, who repented in the house of Simon the Pharisee, anointed Jesus with tears and ointment and wiped His feet with her hair.
• Mary the Magdalene, a great sinner, from whom Jesus cast out seven demons, in the house of her brother, Lazarus, anointed Jesus with ointment and wiped His feet with her hair.
• Luke is the only Evangelist, presumably, who gave an account of a woman who repented before Jesus without speaking a word, but rather through the gesture of anointing Him with tears and ointment, and wiping His feet with her hair, which prompted Jesus to say that her many sins were forgiven because she loved much. This same gesture was made by Mary the Magdalene to Jesus in the house of Simon the Leper, which He memorialized, as accounted by Matthew, Mark and John.

In your view, are those details insufficient reasons to be used to deduce that the repentant prostitute and Mary the Magdalene were the same person? If so, why? And, did it ever occur to you that Mary of Magdala, the sister of Lazarus and Martha, was a prostitute before she was healed from being possessed by seven demons, repented of her many sins, and became more moral, a financial contributor to Jesus's ministry, and His second-greatest woman disciple? Because, again, the unnamed repentant woman, a great and well-known sinner, repented through a gesture to Jesus that was repeated by Mary the Magdalene. There are personal gestures, which are repeated and are peculiar to a person, like the person’s style. They are unmistakable gestures. But, as it was fair, at Bethany in Simon the Leper's house, the gesture was not humiliated so much as it was in Simon the Pharisee's house, and it was more confidential in its reverent adoration. Did it ever occur to you that the gesture made in Simon the Pharisee's house marked the dawn of Mary of Magdala's redemption? Did it ever occur to you that one of the most beautiful conquests of God was Mary the Magdalene, a great sinner and great convert? I say great. But she and others did not spiritually throw themselves onto the ground passively, saying, "I am so bad", but, rather, with their spirit they surged up and ran towards Forgiveness and Love with trust.

Did it ever occur to you that Jesus's spokesmen are found either among the pure or among sinners who are really converted?

Look at the core group of apostles. Who did Jesus give power to? To Peter. The man who had come to Him at the culmination of his manhood after experiencing the escapades and passions of youth and maturity, the man who was still so much a man, after three years of contact with Him, that he became a denier and violent.

Who did Jesus give revelation and Revelation to? To John, to the flesh that did not know woman, and to the one who was a priest even before being one. He was pure and in love.

Who did Jesus allow to touch His most pure and divine members before and after the resurrection? Mary the Magdalene, and not Martha.

Peter and Mary, the converts. John, the pure one. It is always that way.

But to Peter, in whom the pride of self lay hidden—"Master, even if everyone else betrays You, I will not betray you"—Jesus did not give what He gave to John. And Peter, a mature man and the head of the core group, had to ask John—a boy in comparison to him—to ask Jesus who the traitor was. And it was to John that Jesus revealed the last times—not to Peter, the head of His Church.

Jesus speaks where He wants to. He speaks to whomever He wants to. He speaks the way He wants to. He has no limitations.

The only limitation, which does not limit Him, but blocks the coming of His Word, is pride and sin.

He wants us to be Johns and Marys, so that we shall become the voice of the Voice. Root out sin and pride. Cultivate charity, humility, purity, faith, and repentance. They are the plants under which the Master takes His seat to instruct His sheep.

Additionally, again, Maria Valtorta, another true spokesperson of God, received and described visions of scenes from Jesus's life on earth. And, according to her account, she confirms that Mary of Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, and the unnamed repentant woman, were the same person. The parents of Lazarus, Martha, and Mary were Theophilus—a Syrian, who was the governor of Antioch, a faithful servant of Caesar—and Eucheria. Mary was a well-known prostitute, even among the Romans in Israel, and thus the disgrace of her family. By extension, her family was affected. They couldn't go among people without having to put up with their mockery, including from the Pharisees and scribes, and Martha never married, because no one married the sister of a prostitute. Mary's conversion was a process, rather than an event. She, once a great sinner, became a great convert. I highly recommend reading The Story of Mary Magdalene (extracts from The Gospel as Revealed to Me, or The Poem of the Man-God), as well as A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta's Extraordinary Work, especially the chapters on the proofs in support of her writings having a supernatural origin.

 

[Grailhunter]

You understood what I said. You told me to be honest about what Scripture says right after your having made the assertion that Mary the Magdalane wasn't the repentant prostitute in Simon the Pharisee's house, despite there being no support for that, and the latter being unnamed, in Scripture.

Again you are chasing a rabbit down a whole. The scripture do not say she was the repentant prostitute and instead testify to her moral character. So stop saying nothing equals something.

 

[Grailhunter]

You understood what I said. You told me to be honest about what Scripture says right after your having made the assertion that Mary the Magdalane wasn't the repentant prostitute in Simon the Pharisee's house, despite there being no support for that, and the latter being unnamed, in Scripture.



It's good that you answered with, "No, but it takes more details" to my question "Do you really think that a person can only be identified by name?" Now, I obviously know details are required to identify a person if they aren't by name, and that's why I pointed out certain details to you regarding the repentant prostitute and Mary the Magdalene. Let's finally go over some of those details below:

• The unnamed repentant prostitute, in the house of Simon the Pharisee, anointed Jesus with tears and expensive ointment using her hair.
• Mary the Magdalene, in the house of her brother Lazarus, anointed Jesus with expensive ointment using her hair.
• Simon the Pharisee's house and Lazarus's house were both located in Bethany.
• Luke is the only Evangelist, presumably, who gave an account of the unnamed prostitute, a great and well-known sinner, who repented before Jesus without speaking a word, but rather through the gesture of anointing Him with her tears and expensive ointment using her hair, and which prompted Jesus to say that her many sins were forgiven because she loved much. The same gesture was made by Mary the Magdalene to Jesus in Lazarus's house, which He memorialized, as accounted by Matthew, Mark and John.

In your view, are those details too insufficient to be used to identify the unnamed and repentant prostitute as Mary the Magdalene? If so, why? And, did it ever occur to you that Mary the Magdalene, the sister of Lazarus and Martha, was a prostitute before she repented and became a financial contributor to Jesus's ministry and His second-greatest woman disciple? Because, again, the unnamed and repentant prostitute, a great and well-known sinner, repented through a gesture to Jesus that was repeated by Mary the Magdalene. There are personal gestures, which are repeated and are peculiar to a person, like the person’s style. They are unmistakable gestures. But, as it was fair, at Bethany [in Lazarus's house] the gesture was not humiliated so much [as it was in Simon the Pharisee's house], and it was more confidential in its reverent adoration. Did it ever occur to you that the gesture made in Lazarus's house marked the dawn of Mary of Magdala's redemption? Did it ever occur to you that one of the most beautiful conquests of God was Mary the Magdalene, a great sinner and great convert? I say great. But she and others did not spiritually throw themselves onto the ground passively, saying, "I am so bad", but, rather, with their spirit they surged up and ran towards Forgiveness and Love with trust.

Did it ever occur to you that Jesus's spokesmen are found either among the pure or among sinners who are really converted?

Look at the core group of apostles. Who did Jesus give power to? To Peter. The man who had come to Him at the culmination of his manhood after experiencing the escapades and passions of youth and maturity, the man who was still so much a man, after three years of contact with Him, that he became a denier and violent.

Who did Jesus give revelation and Revelation to? To John, to the flesh that did not know woman, and to the one who was a priest even before being one. He was pure and in love.

Who did Jesus allow to touch His most pure and divine members before and after the resurrection? Mary the Magdalene, and not Martha.

Peter and Mary, the converts. John, the pure one. It is always that way.

But to Peter, in whom the pride of self lay hidden—"Master, even if everyone else betrays You, I will not betray you"—Jesus did not give what He gave to John. And Peter, a mature man and the head of the core group, had to ask John—a boy in comparison to him—to ask Jesus who the traitor was. And it was to John that Jesus revealed the last times—not to Peter, the head of His Church.

Jesus speaks where He wants to. He speaks to whomever He wants to. He speaks the way He wants to. He has no limitations.

The only limitation, which does not limit Him, but blocks the coming of His Word, is pride and sin.

He wants us to be Johns and Marys, so that we shall become the voice of the Voice. Root out sin and pride. Cultivate charity, humility, purity, faith, and repentance. They are the plants under which the Master takes His seat to instruct His sheep.

A lot of words but nothing that points to a very moral Mary Magdalene that was well respected in and outside of the Bible.

 

[Sabé]

Again you are chasing a rabbit down a whole. The scripture do not say she was the repentant prostitute and instead testify to her moral character. So stop saying nothing equals something.

A lot of words but nothing that points to a very moral Mary Magdalene that was well respected in and outside of the Bible.

You need to address the accounts and details I've presented that show the unnamed repentant woman, a well-known sinner, and Mary the Magdalene, were the same woman, as well as answer my questions posed to you in post #14, or say you don't know how to do that.

 

[Grailhunter]

You need to address the accounts and details I've presented that show the repentant prostitute and Mary the Magdalene were the same woman, as well as answer my questions posed to you in post #14, or say you don't know how to do that.

Again....A lot of words but nothing that points to a very moral Mary Magdalene that was well respected in and outside of the Bible. You have nothing! No evidence of immoral behavor and in fact just the opposite. Making a story up about an unnamed character is make-believe.

 

[Sabé]

A lot of words but nothing [...]

Again....A lot of words but nothing [...]

You have nothing! No evidence [...]

If I truly have nothing as you say, then try and address the accounts and details I've presented that I argue show the unnamed repentant woman, a well-known sinner, and Mary the Magdalene, were the same woman, as well as answer my questions posed to you in post #14. If you don't, then you're just full of hot air.

 

[Grailhunter]

If I truly have nothing as you say, then try and address the accounts and details I've presented that I argue show the repentant prostitute and Mary the Magdalene were the same woman, as well as answer my questions posed to you in post #14. If you don't, then you're just full of hot air.

Again....A lot of words but nothing that points to a very moral Mary Magdalene that was well respected in and outside of the Bible. You have nothing! No evidence of immoral behavor and in fact just the opposite. Making a story up about an unnamed character is make-believe.

After each line you posted type; Does not point to Mary Magdalene. And that will be the facts. Just a lot of words.