ARE ALL BIBLE TRANSLATIONS TRUSTWORTHY?

[HealthyShape]

Old Syriac has it.

Per,

The Historical Defense of 1 John 5: 7-8: The Unjustly Exscinded Text of the Three Divine Witnesses Paperback – February 1, 2019​

by Michael Maynard (Author)

If we are talking about the longer reading (with Comma), then AI says it has the same short version like the Greek manuscripts. No Comma there.

 

[MonoBiblical]

If we are talking about the longer reading (with Comma), then AI says it has the same short version like the Greek manuscripts. No Comma there.

AIs are parrots.

 

[HealthyShape]

AIs are parrots.

Can you quote the text of 1J5:7 from Old Syriac, then? Because it seems the Old Syriac manuscripts do not even have the book of 1John. There are only gospels, in them.

 

[MonoBiblical]

Can you quote the text of 1J5:7 from Old Syriac, then? Because it seems the Old Syriac manuscripts do not even have the book of 1John. There are only gospels, in them.

Which book? and Maynard has claimed to check to the Syriac and was surprised.

 

[HealthyShape]

Which book? and Maynard has claimed to check to the Syriac and was surprised.

1J 5:7, you said it is in Old Syriac. But Old Syriac manuscripts do not have the 1st John book at all. There are only gospels, in the Old Syriac manuscripts.

 

[marks]

It has nothing to do with Luke. And stop using gigantic font and exclamations marks or I will stop reading your posts.

I'm the same way, I tend to skip over posts with all the large fonts and lots of colors. It seems to me the writers use that to replace true substance in their writing. Plus it's harder on these old eyes.

Much love!

 

[marks]

"This generation" was the generation Jesus was talking to. I have no idea why you are trying to glue the modern events to the text of Luke. Is their generation still alive?

"This generation" can also refer to the Jews themselves, as a nation. "This generation" will not pass away before . . ." can be understood to mean "this nation will not pass away . . ."

Much love!

 

[IndianaRob]

"This generation" can also refer to the Jews themselves, as a nation. "This generation" will not pass away before . . ." can be understood to mean "this nation will not pass away . . ."

Much love!

The Jews as a nation are done. They have no part in anything God does or has done since the cross.

The kingdom was taken from the earthly nation and given to the spiritual nation.

 

[marks]

The word "generation" refers to a group of people born and living around the same time, about 30-40 years, representing the span from parents to their children.

No "more" sense is needed, it is making sense as it is.

Generation - gennea - can mean, "all the people alive today", or, "all the people born around the same time (gen x, Millennials), or, "all the people born from the same line (the children of Jacob, the Israelites.

The Jews as a nation are done.

You are out of step with God's Word.

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Much love!

 

[IndianaRob]

Generation - gennea - can mean, "all the people alive today", or, "all the people born around the same time (gen x, Millennials), or, "all the people born from the same line (the children of Jacob, the Israelites.

You are out of step with God's Word.

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Much love!

That’s the true Israel, the Israel of God like David, Samuel, Peter and Paul and all of gentiles. The kingdom was taken from the wicked earthly Israel and given to us.

 

[HealthyShape]

"This generation" can also refer to the Jews themselves, as a nation. "This generation" will not pass away before . . ." can be understood to mean "this nation will not pass away . . ."

Much love!

Where did you find that generation means nation?

 

[marks]

Where did you find that generation means nation?

Word studies. Lexicons. Think of "generation" in terms of "to generate". These are those generated in a single group, "All alive", "all born in the same time", "all born from the same source".

Much love!

 

[HealthyShape]

Word studies. Lexicons. Think of "generation" in terms of "to generate". These are those generated in a single group, "All alive", "all born in the same time", "all born from the same source".

Much love!

Link, please - that the word generation can mean nation.

Or a verse in the New Testament where it is used for a nation (and translated so in the English Bibles), ideally.

 

[marks]

Link, please - that the word generation can mean nation.

Or a verse in the New Testament where it is used for a nation (and translated so in the English Bibles), ideally.

Strong's Greek: 1074Thayer's Greek Lexicon

 

[marks]

Link, please - that the word generation can mean nation.

Or a verse in the New Testament where it is used for a nation (and translated so in the English Bibles), ideally.

Strong's Greek: 1074. γενεά (genea) -- Generation

 

[HealthyShape]

Strong's Greek: 1074Thayer's Greek Lexicon

The word "nation" cannot be found, there.

Also, I checked all the instances of the word in the New Testament and it is never translated as "nation", so... I think there is not much to talk about.

Your try was interesting, but it would not change much, because there are dozens of other such claims formulated differently, without the word "generation", for example:

"There are some of those standing here, who in no wise shall taste of death, until they have seen the kingdom of God. "
Lk 9:26-27

"Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes."
Mt 10:23

"The time that remains is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not...For this world in its present form is passing away."
1 Cor. 7:29

The end of all things is at hand.
1 Pt 4:7

"...the coming of the Lord is near. "
Jm 5:6

etc, etc. The teachings of the New Testament about the imminent return of Christ are consistent.

 

[marks]

The word "nation" cannot be found, there.

Also, I checked all the instances of the word in the New Testament and it is never translated as "nation", so... I think there is not much to talk about.

Your try was interesting, but it would not change much, because there are dozens of other such claims formulated differently, without the word "generation", for example:

"There are some of those standing here, who in no wise shall taste of death, until they have seen the kingdom of God. "
Lk 9:26-27

or:

"Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes."
Mt 10:23

or:

"The time that remains is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not...For this world in its present form is passing away."
1 Cor. 7:29

The end of all things is at hand.
1 Pt 4:7

"...the coming of the Lord is near. "
Jm 5:6

etc, etc.

Keep an open mind as you look. Thayer may not have used the word "nation", but he does specify those from the same "stock", which is saying the same thing.

Strong's names "nation". Consider the context. Jesus is repeating His promise that the Jews won't all be destroyed before He comes.

I'm just reporting.

Much love!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Why 27, why not 25 or 250? These are just random numbers, because nobody did the work. Nobody even defined what it should mean (which authors and works should be included, exactly).

Well if that is your thinking- so be it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Did I not say the Syrian version has the comma?

What date is that version

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You only think the bible teaches it.

I care not what other religions and their "holy books" may teach, the bible is the authoritative Word of God for all mankind.