Proof there is only a single Day of Judgment at the end of the world on the Day appointed and that Judge is Christ

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John 5

Honor the Father and the Son​

16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, [d]and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”

18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.

22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.


Life and Judgment Are Through the Son​

24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.

28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

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Matthew 13

34 All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spoke He not unto them,

35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, “I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.”

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house, and His disciples came unto Him, saying, “Explain unto us the parable of the tares of the field.”

37 He answered and said unto them, “He that soweth the good seed is the Son of Man.

38 The field is the world, the good seed are the children of the Kingdom, but the tares are the children of the wicked one.

39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the world, and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be at the end of this world.

41 The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend and them that do iniquity,

42 and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Romans 2
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art who judgest; for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself, for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who commit such things.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, who judgest those who do such things and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

4 Or despisest thou the riches of His goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

5 But because of thy hardness and impenitence of heart, thou treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of Wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,

6 who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 to those who by patient continuance in welldoing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;

8 but unto those who are contentious, and do not obey the truth but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man who doeth evil, upon the Jew first and also upon the Gentile;

10 but glory, honor and peace to every man who worketh good, to the Jew first and also to the Gentile.

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.

13 (For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

14 For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, they, not having the law, are a law unto themselves,

15 which shows the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts between accusing and excusing one another.)

16 Thus will it be on the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my Gospel.
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Acts 17

30 The times of this ignorance God overlooked, but now He commandeth all men everywhere to repent,

31 because He hath appointed a Day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by that Man whom He hath ordained. Of this He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead.”

32 But when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked and others said, “We will hear thee again on this matter.”

33 So Paul departed from among them.

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Jude

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, “Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of His saints

15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all who are ungodly among them of all their godless deeds which they have godlessly committed, and of all the harsh speeches which godless sinners have spoken against Him.”

16 These are murmurers and complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, giving admiration to men’s persons to gain advantage.

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ,

18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last times who would walk after their own ungodly lusts.

19 These are they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

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Matthew 16

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

27 For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He shall reward every man according to his works.

Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.

Mark 6:11
And whosoever shall not receive you nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, it shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the Day of Judgment than for that city.”
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2 Peter 2:8-10
21st Century King James Version
8 (for that righteous man, having dwelt among them seeing and hearing, was vexed in his righteous soul day after day with their unlawful deeds)—

9 then the Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust unto the Day of Judgment to be punished,
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1 John 4:17
Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the Day of Judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

Jude 1:6
And the angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great Day
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2 Timothy 4

1 I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at His appearing and His Kingdom:

2 preach the Word; be instant in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts.

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned toward fables.

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill thy ministry.

6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

7 I have fought a good fight; I have finished my course; I have kept the faith.

8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give me on that Day — and not to me only, but unto all those also who love His appearing.

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Rev 22
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still; and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still; and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still; and he that is holy, let him be holy still.”

12 And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For outside are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

16I, Jesus, have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the Bright and Morning Star.”
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Jesus said He will return to judge the world in righteousness, that God the Father has appointed for Him a Day to do this, a Day of judgement for the whole world. He will judge every man according to his work, some will receive a reward, some punishment.
God and Christ are not like man, they do not receive a second chance at eternal life, once the Day of Judgment has come.

Those who do not believe stand already condemned as they have not believed the Son.

John 3:18
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

There are many more verses the show Christ as the One who will judge the whole world, not the Father.
Christ is God the Son

This judgment is personal, includes those of all the nations.
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Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man shall come in His glory and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory.

32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations, and He shall separate them one from another as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats.

33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, ‘Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

35 For I hungered, and ye gave Me meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and ye took Me in;

36 naked, and ye clothed Me; I was sick, and ye visited Me; I was in prison, and ye came unto Me.’

37 Then shall the righteous answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when saw we Thee hungering and fed Thee, or thirsty and gave Thee drink?

38 When saw we Thee a stranger and took Thee in, or naked and clothed Thee?

39 Or when saw we Thee sick, or in prison, and came unto Thee?’

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, ‘Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these My brethren, ye have done it unto Me.’

41 “Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

42 For I hungered, and ye gave Me no meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave Me no drink;

43 I was a stranger, and ye took Me not in; naked, and ye clothed Me not; sick and in prison, and ye visited Me not.’

44 Then shall they also answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when saw we Thee hungering or athirst or a stranger, or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister unto Thee?’

45 Then shall He answer them, saying, ‘Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to Me.’

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.”
 

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2 Timothy 4

1 I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at His appearing and His Kingdom:

2 preach the Word; be instant in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts.

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned toward fables.

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill thy ministry.

6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

7 I have fought a good fight; I have finished my course; I have kept the faith.

8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give me on that Day — and not to me only, but unto all those also who love His appearing.

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Rev 22
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still; and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still; and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still; and he that is holy, let him be holy still.”

12 And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For outside are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

16I, Jesus, have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the Bright and Morning Star.”
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Jesus said He will return to judge the world in righteousness, that God the Father has appointed for Him a Day to do this, a Day of judgement for the whole world. He will judge every man according to his work, some will receive a reward, some punishment.
God and Christ are not like man, they do not receive a second chance at eternal life, once the Day of Judgment has come.

Those who do not believe stand already condemned as they have not believed the Son.

John 3:18
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

There are many more verses the show Christ as the One who will judge the whole world, not the Father.
Christ is God the Son

This judgment is personal, includes those of all the nations.
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Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man shall come in His glory and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory.

32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations, and He shall separate them one from another as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats.

33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, ‘Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

35 For I hungered, and ye gave Me meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and ye took Me in;

36 naked, and ye clothed Me; I was sick, and ye visited Me; I was in prison, and ye came unto Me.’

37 Then shall the righteous answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when saw we Thee hungering and fed Thee, or thirsty and gave Thee drink?

38 When saw we Thee a stranger and took Thee in, or naked and clothed Thee?

39 Or when saw we Thee sick, or in prison, and came unto Thee?’

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, ‘Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these My brethren, ye have done it unto Me.’

41 “Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

42 For I hungered, and ye gave Me no meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave Me no drink;

43 I was a stranger, and ye took Me not in; naked, and ye clothed Me not; sick and in prison, and ye visited Me not.’

44 Then shall they also answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when saw we Thee hungering or athirst or a stranger, or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister unto Thee?’

45 Then shall He answer them, saying, ‘Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to Me.’

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.”
For all your writing you forget on ething! The bible speaks of two judgments very clearly!

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The verse four saints reign with christ- they going to reign without being judged first??????????

All the saved righteous are resurrected here and given entrance in to teh kingdom! It says plainly- the rest of teh dead lived not for 1000 years!
These are lost souls on whom the second (eternal torment death) has rule over! There are no saved standing to be judged at the great white throne judgment.
 

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For all your writing you forget on ething! The bible speaks of two judgments very clearly!

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The verse four saints reign with christ- they going to reign without being judged first??????????

All the saved righteous are resurrected here and given entrance in to teh kingdom! It says plainly- the rest of teh dead lived not for 1000 years!
These are lost souls on whom the second (eternal torment death) has rule over! There are no saved standing to be judged at the great white throne judgment.
Christ is that first resurrection
No one else has been resurrected and glorified with a body like He has, NOT YET!
It is written we have been raised with Christ into His resurrection right NOW, not at the second coming
We are therefore seated with Him in heavenly places which is what Ephesians 2 states.

Colossians 3

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.


1 Cor 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

The Number 1 guy here, (23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits,)

All believing in Christ are resurrected into glorified bodies at His coming again (afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.)

Then the world ends (24 Then comes the end), when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
 
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Since we have been raised with Christ, that '1000' year reign is in the heavens where Christ is, and we are there with Him.

Colossians 3

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

Ephesians 2
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus

CLEARLY we are a part of the first resurrection, which is Christ as we were made alive and raised with Him

1 Cor 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep.

And that is what Revelation 20 is talking about
 

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Rev 20 says NOTHING about reigning on the earth, nothing.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.

This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Revelation 2:11
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” ’

AND WHO IS THE OVERCOMER?
That would be those who are saved, who believe in Christ.


1 John 5:4
For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

1 John 5:5
Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
 

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For all your writing you forget on ething! The bible speaks of two judgments very clearly!

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The verse four saints reign with christ- they going to reign without being judged first??????????

All the saved righteous are resurrected here and given entrance in to teh kingdom! It says plainly- the rest of teh dead lived not for 1000 years!
These are lost souls on whom the second (eternal torment death) has rule over! There are no saved standing to be judged at the great white throne judgment.
Verse 4 does not say those who sit on the thrones and who live and reign with Christ are judged at the beginning of the thousand years. It says judgment is given to them, not that they are judged. When it says judgment is given to them, it's talking about authority being given to them. Passages like John 5:28-29, Matthew 13:40-43, Matthew 13:47-50 and Matthew 25:31-46 make it clear that the saved and lost will be judged at the same time.
 

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Beleivers are not condemned in the judgement.
They passed from death into life.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

So yes, we are declared not guilty because of what Christ did for us, and we believed it, we believed in the Lord, what He says.
We are not subject to the second death, we will not come under such a judgement.
We can not perish in hell as the unbelieving do, that is not our destiny. Our citizenship is in heaven for where we await our savior who will transform our lowly body to be like unto His own glorified body, for we shall see Him as He is, and SURVIVE IT

John 10

25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, [e]as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”
 
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Christ is that first resurrection
No one else has been resurrected and glorified with a body like He has, NOT YET!
It is written we have been raised with Christ into His resurrection right NOW, not at the second coming
We are therefore seated with Him in heavenly places which is what Ephesians 2 states.
YOu need to read the verse!

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

According to you, christ reigns with Christ for 1000 years and is priests plural!
1 Cor 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

The Number 1 guy here, (23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits,)

All believing in Christ are resurrected into glorified bodies at His coming again (afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.)

Then the world ends (24 Then comes the end), when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
Being the first fruits of teh resurrection is not the same as the first resurrection found in Rev. 20.
 

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YOu need to read the verse!

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

According to you, christ reigns with Christ for 1000 years and is priests plural!
What in the world are you intending to say here? Why are you misrepresenting what he said by saying something ridiculous?

Being the first fruits of teh resurrection is not the same as the first resurrection found in Rev. 20.
Jesus being the firstfruits means that He was the first to be resurrected from the dead unto bodily immortality.

The first resurrection:

Acts 26:23 that the Christ would suffer, that He would be the first to rise from the dead, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”

Having part in the first resurrection:

Colossians 2:12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
 

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OK Brethren in Christ; It's Time For Common Sense In God's Written Word, and Enough of Some Folk's Sensationalist Judgment Doctrines of Men Thrown Out on The Forum:

Some brethren have hardened-hearts against sinners, as if they don't realize they are sinners themselves. We all are, for the Scriptures have ordained all of us under sin so that Christ's Salvation would be to those who believe (Gal.3).

For centuries, since the first Christian Church most likely, some men have used the future destruction of the wicked as a conversion tool, a scare tactic, and really... playin' it up way beyond what the actual Bible Scriptures do. An eternity of burning in pain is one of their favorite interpretations from Bible Scripture, when Psalms 37 tells us the wicked will consume away and be no more, and that means there will be an end to their burning, with their smoke being what actually rises forever and ever per Rev.14.

Many brethren fail miserably when it comes to understanding expressions and idioms which God uses in His Word.

So what kind... of judgment and events regarding mankind actually happens on the "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns, and God's "consuming fire" burns man's works off the surface of this earth per 2 Peter 3 and Hebrews 12?

Brethren, do you recall what Apostle Paul taught that happens on the "last trump" per 1 Corinthians 15:51-54? That "last trump" means the 7th Trumpet of Revelation 11, and is the day of Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord". It will be the LAST DAY of this present world. Paul said there that we shall not all 'sleep', but we shall ALL... be "changed", "at the twinkling of an eye", meaning as fast as one can blink their eye. And that 'change' for those still alive will involve the putting off of our flesh body and our "spiritual body" being suddenly manifested, and then those in Christ being "caught up" to Jesus on His descent to the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, on earth, per Zech.14 and Acts 1.

Per John 5:28-29, Jesus said ALL... in the graves shall come forth on that day, and go either into the "resurrection of life", or into the "resurrection of damnation". The idea of the resurrection which Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 involves the change to the "spiritual body". This means the "resurrection of damnation" will be changed to their spiritual body also. Likewise, ALL... peoples still alive on earth will also be changed to the "spiritual body", even the wicked that will still be without Christ and thus with their souls spiritually dead inside.

A major Biblical event to remember about this, is that NO ONE that is born in the flesh is judged and sentenced to perish at the "second death" in the future "lake of fire" after Christ's "thousand years" reign, UNTIL God's Great White Throne Judgment happens. WHEN does God's written Word show that Great White Throne Judgment is to take place?? See here...

Rev 20:7-15
7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up
on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11
And I saw a great white throne, and Him That sat on it, from Whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV


All of the above events happen AFTER THE THOUSAND YEARS ARE FINISHED. And that includes when the wicked are cast into the future "lake of fire" called the "second death".

So WHY... do some brethren have those above Revelation 20 events so TWISTED in their minds?? It's the same ole', same ole', their instead listening to the doctrines of men, and NOT God's written Word. And because they do not 'stay' in God's Word, God has given them over to deceptions. And why shouldn't God do that to them, since they won't listen to Him in HIS Word?

There is nothing difficult about understanding the above prophetic Revelation 20 event order, and especially how it shows God's Great White Throne Judgment does not happen on the day of Christ's future return, but only after His future "thousand years" reign.
 

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Per John 5:28-29, Jesus said ALL... in the graves shall come forth on that day, and go either into the "resurrection of life", or into the "resurrection of damnation". The idea of the resurrection which Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 involves the change to the "spiritual body". This means the "resurrection of damnation" will be changed to their spiritual body also. Likewise, ALL... peoples still alive on earth will also be changed to the "spiritual body", even the wicked that will still be without Christ and thus with their souls spiritually dead inside.

A major Biblical event to remember about this, is that NO ONE that is born in the flesh is judged and sentenced to perish at the "second death" in the future "lake of fire" after Christ's "thousand years" reign, UNTIL God's Great White Throne Judgment happens. WHEN does God's written Word show that Great White Throne Judgment is to take place?? See here...

Rev 20:7-15
7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up
on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11
And I saw a great white throne, and Him That sat on it, from Whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV


All of the above events happen AFTER THE THOUSAND YEARS ARE FINISHED. And that includes when the wicked are cast into the future "lake of fire" called the "second death".

So WHY... do some brethren have those above Revelation 20 events so TWISTED in their minds?? It's the same ole', same ole', their instead listening to the doctrines of men, and NOT God's written Word. And because they do not 'stay' in God's Word, God has given them over to deceptions. And why shouldn't God do that to them, since they won't listen to Him in HIS Word?

There is nothing difficult about understanding the above prophetic Revelation 20 event order, and especially how it shows God's Great White Throne Judgment does not happen on the day of Christ's future return, but only after His future "thousand years" reign.
You said

Per John 5:28-29, Jesus said ALL... in the graves shall come forth on that day, and go either into the "resurrection of life", or into the "resurrection of damnation". The idea of the resurrection which Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 involves the change to the "spiritual body". This means the "resurrection of damnation" will be changed to their spiritual body also. Likewise, ALL... peoples still alive on earth will also be changed to the "spiritual body", even the wicked that will still be without Christ and thus with their souls spiritually dead inside.

Wow, how terrible is your doctrine!
of course, the pre mill view does not have righteousness on the earth after Christ's return as you have stated.
Even though Paul tells us all the unbelieving and those who do not obey Christ are killed at His return.

2 Thess 1

God’s Final Judgment and Glory​

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you,

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

10 when He comes, in that Day,
to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.


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And Paul's letter has another chapter, number 2 which further speaks to this condemnation
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2 Thess 2

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the [d]mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only [e]He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Oh yeah, they PERISH, they are not left to walk and continuing with their wicked works when Christ returns.
 
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Wow, how terrible is your doctrine!
of course, the pre mill view does not have righteousness on the earth after Christ's return as you have stated.
Even though Paul tells us all the unbelieving and those who do not obey Christ are killed at His return.

My doctrine is the simplicity of those Bible Scriptures I referenced.

Your false doctrine has none... of what I showed, but instead is about other non-related topics revealing God's written Word is mostly closed off... to your understanding.
 

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Per John 5:28-29, Jesus said ALL... in the graves shall come forth on that day, and go either into the "resurrection of life", or into the "resurrection of damnation". The idea of the resurrection which Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 involves the change to the "spiritual body". This means the "resurrection of damnation" will be changed to their spiritual body also. Likewise, ALL... peoples still alive on earth will also be changed to the "spiritual body", even the wicked that will still be without Christ and thus with their souls spiritually dead inside.

Wow, how terrible is your doctrine!
of course, the pre mill view does not have righteousness on the earth after Christ's return as you have stated.
Even though Paul tells us all the unbelieving and those who do not obey Christ are killed at His return.

2 Thess 1

God’s Final Judgment and Glory​

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you,

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

10 when He comes, in that Day,
to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

In Matthew 25:31-41, nor... Jesus doesn't mention about His future "thousand years" reign happening prior to the wicked being cast into the "lake of fire".

In Matthew 3:11-12, John the Baptist mentioned also that when Jesus comes He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire, and did not mention Christ's future "thousand years" that happens prior.

In Matthew 13:40, in Christ's parable of the tares of the field, He said the tares will be gathered and burned in the fire at the end of this world, and said nothing about His future "thousand years" reign.

SO WHY NOT MENTION THOSE ABOVE SCRIPTURES TOO IN YOUR VAIN ATTEMPT TO DISPROVE CHRIST'S FUTURE 1,000 YEARS REIGN PRIOR... TO THE WICKED BEING CAST INTO THE 'LAKE OF FIRE'?


But WOW! Lord Jesus waited to reveal His future "thousand years" reign to LAZY NEW TESTAMENT ONLY READERS through His Apostle John circa 96 A.D. while in prison on the Isle of Patmos!

Rev 20:7-15
7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV

And even though Christ's future reign over the STILL EXISTING WICKED after His future return is well written of in The Old Testament Books of God's prophets, the LAZY New Testament Book only readers THINK they are using a complete Bible when they actually vomit on The Word of God as a whole, creating THEIR OWN DOCTRINES OF VANITY, instead of HEEDING ALL OF GOD'S WRITTEN WORD!

Zech 14:16-19
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
KJV
 

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And Paul's letter has another chapter, number 2 which further speaks to this condemnation
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2 Thess 2

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the [d]mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only [e]He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Oh yeah, they PERISH, they are not left to walk and continuing with their wicked works when Christ returns.

That's only you and the false doctrines of men that you are ADDING to what Apostle Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 2. Nowhere in that 2 Thessalonians 2 Chapter is Paul pointing to Satan being cast into the future "lake of fire" on the day of Christ's 2nd coming.

Instead, Paul is pointing to the "man of sin", the pseudo-Christ Jesus pointed to in Matthew 24:23-26 who will exalt himself as God on earth, working great signs and wonders. That "man of sin" role is what will be destroyed on the day of Christ's future coming, along with his beast kingdom of Rev.13:1. (See Rev.19:20) The "dragon", Satan, is not destroyed until AFTER Christ's future "thousand years" reign which begins on the day of His future 2nd coming, AS WRITTEN IN REVELATION 20.

Since you so earnestly DENY those events of the Revelation 20 which Lord Jesus gave through His Apostle John, then just imagine how much other Bible Scriptures you have twisted in your mind! I feel sorry for you, I actually do. And for one to believe men's false doctrine of Amill that you have latched onto, one must deny many other Bible Scriptures, not just the Revelation 20 Chapter.
 

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That's only you and the false doctrines of men that you are ADDING to what Apostle Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 2. Nowhere in that 2 Thessalonians 2 Chapter is Paul pointing to Satan being cast into the future "lake of fire" on the day of Christ's 2nd coming.

Instead, Paul is pointing to the "man of sin", the pseudo-Christ Jesus pointed to in Matthew 24:23-26 who will exalt himself as God on earth, working great signs and wonders. That "man of sin" role is what will be destroyed on the day of Christ's future coming, along with his beast kingdom of Rev.13:1. (See Rev.19:20) The "dragon", Satan, is not destroyed until AFTER Christ's future "thousand years" reign which begins on the day of His future 2nd coming, AS WRITTEN IN REVELATION 20.

Since you so earnestly DENY those events of the Revelation 20 which Lord Jesus gave through His Apostle John, then just imagine how much other Bible Scriptures you have twisted in your mind! I feel sorry for you, I actually do. And for one to believe men's false doctrine of Amill that you have latched onto, one must deny many other Bible Scriptures, not just the Revelation 20 Chapter.
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This guy makes more sense than you do. Do you know that no one here takes you seriously?
 

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This guy makes more sense than you do. Do you know that no one here takes you seriously?

Above is another example folks of those who's minds lack the ability to do line upon line Bible study and STAY with what God's written Word says. Those MUST HAVE SOMEONE TO TELL THEM WHAT TO THINK AND BELIEVE.
 

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In Matthew 25:31-41, nor... Jesus doesn't mention about His future "thousand years" reign happening prior to the wicked being cast into the "lake of fire".

In Matthew 3:11-12, John the Baptist mentioned also that when Jesus comes He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire, and did not mention Christ's future "thousand years" that happens prior.

In Matthew 13:40, in Christ's parable of the tares of the field, He said the tares will be gathered and burned in the fire at the end of this world, and said nothing about His future "thousand years" reign.

SO WHY NOT MENTION THOSE ABOVE SCRIPTURES TOO IN YOUR VAIN ATTEMPT TO DISPROVE CHRIST'S FUTURE 1,000 YEARS REIGN PRIOR... TO THE WICKED BEING CAST INTO THE 'LAKE OF FIRE'?


But WOW! Lord Jesus waited to reveal His future "thousand years" reign to LAZY NEW TESTAMENT ONLY READERS through His Apostle John circa 96 A.D. while in prison on the Isle of Patmos!

Rev 20:7-15
7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV

And even though Christ's future reign over the STILL EXISTING WICKED after His future return is well written of in The Old Testament Books of God's prophets, the LAZY New Testament Book only readers THINK they are using a complete Bible when they actually vomit on The Word of God as a whole, creating THEIR OWN DOCTRINES OF VANITY, instead of HEEDING ALL OF GOD'S WRITTEN WORD!

Zech 14:16-19
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
KJV
Your doctrine is again foolish ramblings.
You are seriously hardened into it.
You always love to ignore most of the New Testament and fall back on renewed Judaism.
Are you also believing in a rebuilt Ezekiel's temple during the mythical 1000 year earthly kingdom of Christ with animal sacrifices for sins?
 

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Your doctrine is again foolish ramblings.
You are seriously hardened into it.
You always love to ignore most of the New Testament and fall back on renewed Judaism.
Are you also believing in a rebuilt Ezekiel's temple during the mythical 1000 year earthly kingdom of Christ with animal sacrifices for sins?

I just showed you the actual BIBLE SCRIPTURE EVIDENCE in my post. Yet you VOMITED on that Bible Scripture evidence shown you. So may God rebuke you until you learn to keep HIS WORD and not man's word like you are doing.
 

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I guess the Biblically illiterate that don't study their Old Testament Books will laugh at the follow Scripture too about Christ's future "thousand years" reign that begins at His future 2nd coming...

Isa 24:21-23
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22
And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before His ancients gloriously.
KJV