Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

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marks

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It is like the Hebrew WAW. It actually separates.
Diversion / deflection. No, it does not.

Kai = and / even, that is, adding (copulative) or explaining (explicative).

So this tells me you have not studied Koine Greek. This is first semester stuff.

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Diversion / deflection. No, it does not.

Kai = and / even, that is, adding (copulative) or explaining (explicative).

So this tells me you have not studied Koine Greek. This is first semester stuff.

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Yes, it does mean also when and the beginning of the sentence, they divide. I am surprised that they train people to be incompetent in Greek classes.
 

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It one mou for one object. Both Lord and God are nominative indicating the beginning of a sentence. Contest is indeed king.
Place a period where you wish (not that you should) and even so you won't change the fact that Thomas said this to Jesus. "My Lord and my God".

Indicating the beginning of a sentence, where do you get this stuff?

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No, he didn't because there are 2 nominatives. You know that.
I literally laughed out loud at this.

Thank you for a good laugh in the AM!

Though you will most likely ignore this . . . I recommend some real training in Koine Greek.

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How is it that you're a self professed Greek expert when you can't even understand a perfectly clear and simple by Thomas who was taught personally by Jesus?

"Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God"!
That's the question! It answers itself. Any first year KG student would understand this. Maybe not agree, but they'd understand this was what was being said.

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Thank God, a Bible defender! And Jesus called Himself, "the ALMIGHTY"!
Revelation 1:5-8 KJV
5) And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6) And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
7) Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Not only that, but He said of Himself, I am the Alpha and Omega as well.

This passage really chaps the JW's I've found. Jesus Christ, not Michael, but Jesus Himself, speaks to John after His ascent into heaven. This even calls Jesus the faithful witness. Not Michael lying to the world about himself. What blasphemy saying this was an angel!!

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Why are schooled Greek "experts" sloppy? You don't even know the nominative is the subjective case in Greek.
Koine Greek Noun Cases:

Greek Work​
Case​
Case Meaning​
Θε – ὸς(theos)nominativeSubject of verb
Θε – οῦ(theou)genitiveDenotes description/possession
Θε – οῦ(theou)ablativeDenotes separation
Θε – ῷ(theǭ)dativeDenotes focus of interest/indirect object
Θε – ῷ(theǭ)locativeDenotes location
Θε – ῷ(theǭ)instrumentalDenotes means
Θε – όν(theon)accusativeDenotes direct object of verb
Θε – έ(thee)vocativeDenotes address

Read more here:

Greek Grammar - The Greek Case System

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You did it by saying God is so fluid that he wants to lose clout by being human.
Do you also deny the EVERLASTING fire, like JW's?

You did it by saying God is so fluid that he wants to lose clout by being human.
You gonna start flat out LYING now?

Col 1 By Him all things were created!

Jesus is God of the Bible, THE CREATOR!
 

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no Jesus never called him self the Almighty
He sure did!

Revelation 1:8
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Revelation 1:11
11 saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,"

Revelation 2:8 8 These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
 
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Koine Greek Noun Cases:

Greek Work​
Case​
Case Meaning​
Θε – ὸς(theos)nominativeSubject of verb
Θε – οῦ(theou)genitiveDenotes description/possession
Θε – οῦ(theou)ablativeDenotes separation
Θε – ῷ(theǭ)dativeDenotes focus of interest/indirect object
Θε – ῷ(theǭ)locativeDenotes location
Θε – ῷ(theǭ)instrumentalDenotes means
Θε – όν(theon)accusativeDenotes direct object of verb
Θε – έ(thee)vocativeDenotes address

Read more here:

Greek Grammar - The Greek Case System

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You needed to look it up, and you subscribe the myth of an ablative and locative for Greek. Amazing stewpage.
 
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Do you also deny the EVERLASTING fire, like JW's?
I believe the fire's effects are permanent, but it is not everlasting.
You gonna start flat out LYING now?

Col 1 By Him all things were created!
ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα τὰ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ τὰ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, How/since at/in him the all was founded those in heavens and those on earth.
Jesus is God of the Bible, THE CREATOR!