Then why are you obsessed with defending abortion and attacking the right for decent people to own guns?
Charlie Kirk conservative speaker shot in the neck. Condition unknown for now.
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Now who is twisting things?
I defend abortion for medical reasons only as I have stated many many times before. I do not support abortion on demand. I am not attacking the right to own guns and as I have said, I own a firearm myself.
You need to reread what I wrote and stop twisting what I am saying.
Then why are you ATTACKING the NRA for defending YOUR right to own a gun, and comparing that to murdering MILLIONS of babies???
Medical reasons / Big Pharma / playing God ... for BIG $$$!
I am using your logic, nothing more.
I am not attacking the NRA. I am starting to think you read into what other people say and not what they have actually said.
You always use the excuse that doctors are being paid by big pharmaceutical to perform medical abortions without a shred of evidence. Medical abortions are done to save lives, if you believe otherwise, that is an issue with you, not the doctors.
So, time for me to ask a question, I have asked before and never receive an answer. If your wife or daughter was pregnant and the only way that they would live because the fetus is killing them, would you tell them I’m sorry, but you must die because even though an abortion will save your life, I do not believe that you should have one?
Did you read what others said about your comments?
I learned a long time ago that medical ERRORS are probably the LEADING cause of death. Doctors are not my God! They make LOTS of errors causing LOTS of deaths. And you want to take their word to kill a baby!
amigo de christo
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So how come many are not helping me to help the overwhemling majority of christendom
who are being led to the day of their own destruction .
Interfaith is of anti christ . I am trying to help this people by pulling them
away the he who cometh to lead them to their own demise and destruction .
And i speak of not just the death of the body but of body and soul .
Satan is a liar . And he knows how to tap into any group of man . The nar realm is as much of satan
as is the liberal progressive left .
BIBLE TIME . Its time the church returns to the most hated book known to man .
A book that many harlots have also twisted unto the people .
YOU sit around and talk about shooting folks . that you had rather shoot first THEN pray .
WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN trying to save folks by preaching the gospel . DONT YA THINK .
We are supposed to be co helpers , BY THE SPIRIT , TO THE TRUTH .
not messengers of politics
not messengers of things contrary to Christ .
This rebuking is necessary for you to hear . But will you hear it . YOU stay on this path
and i am telling you , that when the FINAL SOLUTOIN IS ENFORCED
You and many are gonna have zero problems with its solution of ridding the earth of men like me .
ONLY you all will beleive ITS GODS WILL . and that i am enemy number one to THIS god that many will call GOD and LOVE .
I dont write this to you because i fear what is to come upon me .
I write this to you FOR YOU . cause my end WILL BE GOOD , but the end of all who bought
the solution , the lie , NO SIR , NOT GOOD at all . I DO what i do , NOT FOR ME , BUT for even those who despise me
I have only seen yours. I have many people blocked on here, so, if they are blocked I will not see them.
I guess your answer is no, you wouldn’t let them have an abortion. I may not agree with your answer, but it is your and your family’s decision and I will not argue against that.
As far as me and my family go, we will take the doctor’s decision and have the abortion after lots of discussion and research, as well as prayer. We go to doctors and hospitals that we can trust as well.
pandaflower
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I think you should remember. We don't get through to people by preaching the Gospel.
Jesus did that. And of those who didn't understand he said,they were not meant to.
This isn't on us. We are not solely responsible for this whacky world.
We're merely navigating it as God wills.
Satan is the lord of this world.
Why?
Easy answer. Remember the trials of Job.
The world today is Job.
Microcosm Macrocosm.
Enjoy the ride. Feel it. Vent.
Keep the faith.
Everything,every thing, is of and from God. And his will and plan.
PS95
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Slander without proof is always allowed on here when it comes to certain people ONLY.
PS95
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On Thursday, Crowder announced that the ATF had subpoenaed his company after he received a leaked document from within the agency claiming that a weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges etched with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.
I NEVER make that decision! I'm not God.
And if Big Pharma is wrong, as they OFTEN are, you have killed a wonderful little baby!
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Actually, you would have to make a decision, or your wife or your daughter. You can verbally make the decision or if choose not to decide, that in of itself is a decision.
These doctors, they’re not big pharma. They are doctors trying to save lives. And that it is a big if. As I said, research, discussion and prayer, then the decision.
Thankfully, I no longer have to worry about those decisions.
I repeat: I'M NOT GOD! Doesn't God answer your prayers? Maybe that's your problem!
BALONEY!!!
There are good doctors and BAD doctors. Medical errors are probably the LEADING cause of death! You don't even know that???
This senseless murder is on par with the assassination of Martin Luther King. I pray that through his death hundreds of young Christian leaders emerge!
What is reported / confirmed about Tyler Robinson
| Detail | Information |
|---|---|
| Age & Location | 22 years old, from Washington County, Utah. Reuters+3AP News+3The Guardian+3 |
| Education / Background | - He’s a third-year electrical apprenticeship student at Dixie Technical College. People.com+1 - Previously attended Utah State University for one semester (in 2021). People.com+2Utah State University+2 - Grew up near the technical college in Washington, Utah. People.com+1 |
| Criminal history | No known prior criminal record. Reuters+2Utah News Dispatch+2 |
| Arrest / Charges | - He’s been arrested and booked into Utah County Jail. AP News+2The Guardian+2 - Facing aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, and obstruction of justice. Utah News Dispatch+2AP News+2 - Being held without bail. People.com+2Utah News Dispatch+2 |
| How he was identified / arrested | - Reportedly confessed or implied involvement to a family member, who then tipped off authorities via family friend. People.com+2Reuters+2 - His father saw photos released of the person of interest, recognized him, and convinced him to turn himself in. A youth pastor was involved in facilitating that. Federal agencies also interviewed him. Utah News Dispatch+2Reuters+2 |
| Weapon and evidence | - The weapon is a Mauser .30-06 bolt-action rifle. AP News+1 - The shot allegedly came from about 200 yards away (from a rooftop of a building near the event). People.com+2Utah News Dispatch+2 - Surveillance footage shows someone matching descriptions (dark clothing, hat/sunglasses/backpack) fleeing the scene and changing clothes on the roof. People.com+2Sky News+2 - Bullet casings found with inscriptions, including political / anti-fascist statements and meme culture references. People.com+2Utah News Dispatch+2 - Messages from his roommate / Discord (an online chat platform) reportedly show planning or references to acquiring a rifle, retrieving it from a drop point, etc. People.com+2Utah News Dispatch+2 |
| Motive & behavior | - Authorities say he had become more politically engaged, had expressed negative views of Charlie Kirk before the event; at a family dinner he allegedly said he disliked Kirk’s viewpoints. Reuters+2Utah News Dispatch+2 - Some of the bullet casings and evidence suggest political motivation (anti-fascist inscriptions), but local officials have not yet established a clear motive. People.com+1 |
What *is not yet clear / still under investigation
- Whether there are any co-conspirators or whether Robinson acted completely alone — law enforcement currently says they believe he acted alone. The Guardian+1
- Mental health history: whether he has any mental health diagnoses or issues has not been publicly documented. Utah News Dispatch
- Exact motive: while there are signs (political engagement, dislike of Kirk, inscriptions), officials have not definitively pinned down motive in legal paperwork. Reuters+1
- Formal charging documents or an indictment with full details have been reported by media, but official filings/court uploads (with full public access) may still be pending. Utah News Dispatch+1
I prayed they would catch the killer, glad it did not take a long time.
He is from a Mormon family.
Since Murder to them is a grave sin, Tyler must have given up Mormonism
what do Mormons think about murder
In short:
Mormons believe murder is among the very worst sins, potentially unforgivable, and it has eternal consequences. Repentance is always encouraged, but LDS scripture and leaders consistently teach that murder carries a uniquely heavy spiritual penalty.
He is from a Mormon family.
Since Murder to them is a grave sin, Tyler must have given up Mormonism
what do Mormons think about murder
ChatGPT said:
In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS, often called Mormons), murder is considered one of the most serious sins a person can commit. Here’s a clear breakdown:1. Murder as a Grave Sin
- The LDS Church teaches that murder is a violation of God’s commandment “Thou shalt not kill.”
- It is listed as one of the sins that brings very serious spiritual consequences, sometimes described as “next to unforgivable.”
2. Repentance and Forgiveness
- Latter-day Saints believe in repentance through Jesus Christ for all sins.
- However, official teachings (like those in the Book of Mormon and statements by leaders) describe murder as an especially severe sin that may not be fully forgivable in this life.
- Doctrine and Covenants 42:18–19 says: “Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come.”
- Because of this, LDS teaching is that premeditated murder may place someone beyond the reach of complete forgiveness.
3. Distinction from Other Killings
- The LDS Church makes a distinction between murder and other types of killing:
- Self-defense is not considered murder.
- War or acting under proper authority is treated differently.
- Abortion is considered a serious sin, but the Church allows limited exceptions (rape, incest, life of the mother).
4. Eternal Consequences
- Church leaders have taught that murder can lead to losing the possibility of exaltation (the highest heaven).
- Some LDS teachings suggest that while Christ’s atonement covers nearly everything, willful murder may permanently cut a person off from God’s presence.
In short:
Mormons believe murder is among the very worst sins, potentially unforgivable, and it has eternal consequences. Repentance is always encouraged, but LDS scripture and leaders consistently teach that murder carries a uniquely heavy spiritual penalty.
He was full of hate, the family was not a happy one.
They said he was radicalized.
They will feel like they lost their son, that he is dead to them and to God.
And so far he is.
1 John 3:15
Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
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