WHO ARE THE MANY THAT ARE FORGIVEN?

[Doug]

[Matthew 26:28 KJV] 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Jesus said his shed blood provided the forgiveness of sins. I would say, most believe this verse is saying that this forgiveness can be applied to all believers. This will be examined.

Why is it that, even after Jesus rose from the dead, his shed blood was not being preached for the forgiveness of sins?.............[Luke 24:47 KJV] 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[Acts 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[Acts 10:43 KJV] 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins..............What was still being preached was forgiveness through his name. Believing in Christ was to be believe in his name, to believe that he was their Messiah, the Son of God.

By looking at the context of Matthew 26:28, we can understand what Jesus meant in saying his shed blood would be for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus is speaking about the promised kingdom on earth. The context is the kingdom..............[Matthew 26:29 KJV] 29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom................ In the prophetic kingdom on earth, the believing remnant of Israel will reign with Christ for a thousand years (Luke 1:32-33 Revelation 20:6).

I think that the context of the verses in Matthew 26 lend to concluding that the remission of sins by his shed blood pertains to the coming of Christ when he establishes the kingdom on earth. Jesus said his blood was for the remission of sins, which I see as being when the sins of the nation of Israel are blotted out at his presence. The times of refreshing occurs when he returns, and the kingdom is established.............. [Acts 3:19-21 KJV] 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

God will make a new covenant with Israel, in which, he will "forgive their iniquity"..............[Jeremiah 31:31, 34 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: ... 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.................Jesus had to shed his blood for God to be just to forgive Israel's iniquity.

Jesus declared his last will in his new testament. He declared his shed blood was for the remission of sins for the many. The believing remnant of Israel are the "many" whose sins will be forgiven by his shed blood. The believing remnant of Israel will receive the remission of their sins in the kingdom and by the new covenant.

It is only by Christ, revealing to Paul, that we find that all are saved by his blood..............[1Timothy 2:6 KJV] 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

 

[LoveYeshua]

When Jesus said, “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28), He was not speaking of only a small group of Israelites. The prophets had already declared that forgiveness through the Servant of the LORD would reach beyond Israel. Isaiah said, “He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12), and also, “I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles, that You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). The “many” is therefore not just a remnant of Israel, but all who come to Him in faith from every nation.

After His resurrection, Jesus Himself explained what His blood and His suffering meant: “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem” (Luke 24:46–47). This shows clearly that the remission of sins through His blood was not only for Israel in the kingdom to come, but was to be preached immediately, beginning in Jerusalem and going out to all nations.

That is exactly what the apostles did. Peter declared, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38), and again, “To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). Notice the word whoever — not only Israel, but all who believe.

It is true that the prophets also spoke of the final cleansing of Israel’s sins in the kingdom: “They shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more” (Jeremiah 31:34). Peter also said, “Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord” (Acts 3:19). But this does not mean forgiveness was delayed until the kingdom. Forgiveness was already being preached and given through His name, because His blood had already been shed.

The truth is that Jesus’ blood was shed for the many, which includes all who believe, Jew or Gentile. He said plainly, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). And again, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world” (John 6:51).

Therefore, the “many” are not only the remnant of Israel, but all who come to God through Christ. His blood is for the forgiveness of sins for the whole world, as John later wrote, “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

 

[Doug]

When Jesus said, “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28), He was not speaking of only a small group of Israelites. The prophets had already declared that forgiveness through the Servant of the LORD would reach beyond Israel. Isaiah said, “He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12), and also, “I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles, that You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). The “many” is therefore not just a remnant of Israel, but all who come to Him in faith from every nation.

After His resurrection, Jesus Himself explained what His blood and His suffering meant: “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem” (Luke 24:46–47). This shows clearly that the remission of sins through His blood was not only for Israel in the kingdom to come, but was to be preached immediately, beginning in Jerusalem and going out to all nations.

That is exactly what the apostles did. Peter declared, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38), and again, “To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). Notice the word whoever — not only Israel, but all who believe.

It is true that the prophets also spoke of the final cleansing of Israel’s sins in the kingdom: “They shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more” (Jeremiah 31:34). Peter also said, “Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord” (Acts 3:19). But this does not mean forgiveness was delayed until the kingdom. Forgiveness was already being preached and given through His name, because His blood had already been shed.

The truth is that Jesus’ blood was shed for the many, which includes all who believe, Jew or Gentile. He said plainly, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). And again, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world” (John 6:51).

Therefore, the “many” are not only the remnant of Israel, but all who come to God through Christ. His blood is for the forgiveness of sins for the whole world, as John later wrote, “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

The prophets had already declared that forgiveness through the Servant of the LORD would reach beyond Israel. Isaiah said, “He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12), and also, “I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles, that You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). The “many” is therefore not just a remnant of Israel, but all who come to Him in faith from every nation.

Isiah 53 describes that Christ bore the sins only for Israel, his people..........................[Isa 53:8 KJV] 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
As far as Isiah 49, God always made a way to save Gentiles. The Gentiles would also see his salvation in the coming kingdom...............[Isa 2:2 KJV] 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, [that] the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

After His resurrection, Jesus Himself explained what His blood and His suffering meant: “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem” (Luke 24:46–47). This shows clearly that the remission of sins through His blood was not only for Israel in the kingdom to come, but was to be preached immediately, beginning in Jerusalem and going out to all nations.

They were preaching only to believe on the name of Jesus by believing he was Christ, the Son of God

That is exactly what the apostles did. Peter declared, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38), and again, “To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). Notice the word whoever — not only Israel, but all who believe.

They had to be baptized in water to have their sins forgiven, Gentiles would come to believe Peter's preaching in Acts 10, but it was only by believing in his name

It is true that the prophets also spoke of the final cleansing of Israel’s sins in the kingdom: “They shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more” (Jeremiah 31:34). Peter also said, “Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord” (Acts 3:19). But this does not mean forgiveness was delayed until the kingdom. Forgiveness was already being preached and given through His name, because His blood had already been shed.

Individuals were saved by believing in his name, but the nation of Israel would be saved at the coming of Christ and in his kingdom

The truth is that Jesus’ blood was shed for the many, which includes all who believe, Jew or Gentile. He said plainly, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). And again, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world” (John 6:51).

John 3:16 says nothing of the cross. In John 3:18 we can see he was talking about faith in his name............[Jhn 3:18 KJV] 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Therefore, the “many” are not only the remnant of Israel, but all who come to God through Christ. His blood is for the forgiveness of sins for the whole world, as John later wrote, “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

God sent the Son to be Saviour of the world. This will also be accomplished when the kingdom is established.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Isiah 53 describes that Christ bore the sins only for Israel, his people..........................[Isa 53:8 KJV] 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
As far as Isiah 49, God always made a way to save Gentiles. The Gentiles would also see his salvation in the coming kingdom...............[Isa 2:2 KJV] 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, [that] the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

They were preaching only to believe on the name of Jesus by believing he was Christ, the Son of God

They had to be baptized in water to have their sins forgiven, Gentiles would come to believe Peter's preaching in Acts 10, but it was only by believing in his name

Individuals were saved by believing in his name, but the nation of Israel would be saved at the coming of Christ and in his kingdom

John 3:16 says nothing of the cross. In John 3:18 we can see he was talking about faith in his name............[Jhn 3:18 KJV] 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

God sent the Son to be Saviour of the world. This will also be accomplished when the kingdom is established.

what I wrote is correct and true and follows scripture. I take great care to respond with scripture only.

 

[Doug]

what I wrote is correct and true and follows scripture. I take great care to respond with scripture only.

The thing is, scripture can be given, but it can be used wrongly and thus propagate false teachings. This may be unintentional or not.

 

[bdavidc]

[Matthew 26:28 KJV] 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Jesus said his shed blood provided the forgiveness of sins. I would say, most believe this verse is saying that this forgiveness can be applied to all believers. This will be examined.

Why is it that, even after Jesus rose from the dead, his shed blood was not being preached for the forgiveness of sins?.............[Luke 24:47 KJV] 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[Acts 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[Acts 10:43 KJV] 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins..............What was still being preached was forgiveness through his name. Believing in Christ was to be believe in his name, to believe that he was their Messiah, the Son of God.

By looking at the context of Matthew 26:28, we can understand what Jesus meant in saying his shed blood would be for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus is speaking about the promised kingdom on earth. The context is the kingdom..............[Matthew 26:29 KJV] 29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom................ In the prophetic kingdom on earth, the believing remnant of Israel will reign with Christ for a thousand years (Luke 1:32-33 Revelation 20:6).

I think that the context of the verses in Matthew 26 lend to concluding that the remission of sins by his shed blood pertains to the coming of Christ when he establishes the kingdom on earth. Jesus said his blood was for the remission of sins, which I see as being when the sins of the nation of Israel are blotted out at his presence. The times of refreshing occurs when he returns, and the kingdom is established.............. [Acts 3:19-21 KJV] 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

God will make a new covenant with Israel, in which, he will "forgive their iniquity"..............[Jeremiah 31:31, 34 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: ... 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.................Jesus had to shed his blood for God to be just to forgive Israel's iniquity.

Jesus declared his last will in his new testament. He declared his shed blood was for the remission of sins for the many. The believing remnant of Israel are the "many" whose sins will be forgiven by his shed blood. The believing remnant of Israel will receive the remission of their sins in the kingdom and by the new covenant.

It is only by Christ, revealing to Paul, that we find that all are saved by his blood..............[1Timothy 2:6 KJV] 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

You argue that Matthew 26: 28 only refers to the sins of Israel being blotted out in the kingdom in the future. But that is not what Jesus Himself said. “This is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28). He did not say “which is to be shed” or “which will someday be shed”, He said “which is shed.” Hebrews agrees: “Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins” (Hebrews 9:22). There is no indication that forgiveness by His blood is delayed. It is the effectual sacrifice, accomplished once for all.

You maintain that the apostles preached forgiveness of sins “through His name,” but not through His blood. Scripture directly associates the two. Peter declared, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). Paul says, “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses” (Ephesians 1:7). John writes, “The blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). The New Testament does not support any separation of the name of Christ from the blood of Christ. To do so would contradict Scripture.

You limit “the many” of Matthew 26:28 to a remnant within Israel. But in John 10: 16, Jesus Himself says, “I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.” Paul states simply, “There is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all” (Romans 10:12). The effectual blood of Christ is not just for a remnant of Israel, it is for all the world: “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).

Yes, Jeremiah 31 refers to the new covenant with Israel. But Jesus at the Last Supper identified His blood as that new covenant (Luke 22:20). Hebrews 9: 15 teaches that Christ is “the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance.” That new covenant is not only for Israel, but for Jew and Gentile who believe.

The crucial difference is this: If forgiveness by the blood of Christ is only in the future then there is no forgiveness now. But Scripture says, “Since we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God” (Romans 5:9). Forgiveness is not just in the age to come in a kingdom age, it is by grace through faith for the present life of those who are in Christ.

The gospel is this: “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Ephesians 1:7). Not future, not restricted to Israel, but now for everyone who believes. That is the gospel Paul proclaimed and it alone is saving.

 

[LoveYeshua]

The thing is, scripture can be given, but it can be used wrongly and thus propagate false teachings. This may be unintentional or not.

Igave all the verses, see for yourself if it is true or not. Context is important and any given verse must be given in proper context it means knowing scripture well ( i do not claim this of myself ) but I have a gift the gift of knowledge and What I know, I am certain of it because of this Gift of the Holy Spirit. remember it is written that jesus would send us the Holy Spirit;

Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit​

Jhn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jhn 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Jhn 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Jhn 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Jhn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 14:21 is an important verse, remember it well and keep it in your mind and heart always. It will transform you.

 

[bdavidc]

Isiah 53 describes that Christ bore the sins only for Israel, his people..........................[Isa 53:8 KJV] 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
As far as Isiah 49, God always made a way to save Gentiles. The Gentiles would also see his salvation in the coming kingdom...............[Isa 2:2 KJV] 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, [that] the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

I appreciate you pointing to Isaiah, because it forces us to ask: did Christ bear sins only for Israel, or for the world?

Isaiah 53:8 does say, “for the transgression of my people was he stricken.” That is true — Israel was God’s covenant people, and Messiah came through them. But the same chapter doesn’t limit His sacrifice to Israel. “The LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isaiah 53:6). “By his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous; and he shall bear their iniquities” (Isaiah 53:11). The scope is broader than one nation, it is many, it is all who believe.

You referenced Isaiah 49, and that’s the key. God speaks of His Servant and says, “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob… I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). That is not just kingdom-future; it is the gospel fulfilled in Christ now.

The New Testament confirms it. John the Baptist declared, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). Jesus said, “God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Paul preached, “There is no distinction between Jew and Greek… for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved” (Romans 10:12–13).

Here’s the contrast: if His death only covers Israel, then Gentiles are still in their sins. But Scripture says, “He himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

The gospel is not limited to one nation or postponed to a future kingdom. Christ bore sins at the cross, once for all. “For by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified” (Hebrews 10:14). Jew or Gentile, any who believe are forgiven now, by His blood.

 

[Doug]

You argue that Matthew 26: 28 only refers to the sins of Israel being blotted out in the kingdom in the future. But that is not what Jesus Himself said. “This is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28). He did not say “which is to be shed” or “which will someday be shed”, He said “which is shed.” Hebrews agrees: “Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins” (Hebrews 9:22). There is no indication that forgiveness by His blood is delayed. It is the effectual sacrifice, accomplished once for all.

You maintain that the apostles preached forgiveness of sins “through His name,” but not through His blood. Scripture directly associates the two. Peter declared, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). Paul says, “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses” (Ephesians 1:7). John writes, “The blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). The New Testament does not support any separation of the name of Christ from the blood of Christ. To do so would contradict Scripture.

You limit “the many” of Matthew 26:28 to a remnant within Israel. But in John 10: 16, Jesus Himself says, “I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.” Paul states simply, “There is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all” (Romans 10:12). The effectual blood of Christ is not just for a remnant of Israel, it is for all the world: “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).

Yes, Jeremiah 31 refers to the new covenant with Israel. But Jesus at the Last Supper identified His blood as that new covenant (Luke 22:20). Hebrews 9: 15 teaches that Christ is “the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance.” That new covenant is not only for Israel, but for Jew and Gentile who believe.

The crucial difference is this: If forgiveness by the blood of Christ is only in the future then there is no forgiveness now. But Scripture says, “Since we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God” (Romans 5:9). Forgiveness is not just in the age to come in a kingdom age, it is by grace through faith for the present life of those who are in Christ.

The gospel is this: “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Ephesians 1:7). Not future, not restricted to Israel, but now for everyone who believes. That is the gospel Paul proclaimed and it alone is saving.

You argue that Matthew 26: 28 only refers to the sins of Israel being blotted out in the kingdom in the future. But that is not what Jesus Himself said. “This is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28). He did not say “which is to be shed” or “which will someday be shed”, He said “which is shed.” Hebrews agrees: “Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins” (Hebrews 9:22). There is no indication that forgiveness by His blood is delayed. It is the effectual sacrifice, accomplished once for all.

I didnt say his blood was being shed in the future. His blood was shed at that time. I am saying it will be applied to the new covenant in the kingdom. In the new covenant believing Israel's sins are forgiven......................[Jer 31:34 KJV] 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

You maintain that the apostles preached forgiveness of sins “through His name,” but not through His blood. Scripture directly associates the two. Peter declared, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). Paul says, “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses” (Ephesians 1:7). John writes, “The blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). The New Testament does not support any separation of the name of Christ from the blood of Christ. To do so would contradict Scripture.

You cant read what we know now into was said back then. There is nothing about the blood in Acts 10:43. Peter preached only faith in his name.
As far as 1 John 1:7...............John says that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin, but they had to confess it......................[1Jo 1:9 KJV] 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.............he actually talking about the believing nation of Israel, not individuals........................[Lev 16:21 KJV] 21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send [him] away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
[Lev 26:40 KJV] 40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;.......................these verses are examples of national confession

You limit “the many” of Matthew 26:28 to a remnant within Israel. But in John 10: 16, Jesus Himself says, “I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.” Paul states simply, “There is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all” (Romans 10:12). The effectual blood of Christ is not just for a remnant of Israel, it is for all the world: “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).

The other sheep are the scattered believing Jews not Gentiles

Yes, Jeremiah 31 refers to the new covenant with Israel. But Jesus at the Last Supper identified His blood as that new covenant (Luke 22:20). Hebrews 9: 15 teaches that Christ is “the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance.” That new covenant is not only for Israel, but for Jew and Gentile who believe.

[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:.....................it's made with Israel only

The crucial difference is this: If forgiveness by the blood of Christ is only in the future then there is no forgiveness now. But Scripture says, “Since we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God” (Romans 5:9). Forgiveness is not just in the age to come in a kingdom age, it is by grace through faith for the present life of those who are in Christ.

His shed blood isnt only for the future, Jesus Christ revealed to Paul that his blood was also applied to us.

The gospel is this: “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Ephesians 1:7). Not future, not restricted to Israel, but now for everyone who believes. That is the gospel Paul proclaimed and it alone is saving.

Yes
This was kept secret until revealed to Paul

 

[Doug]

I appreciate you pointing to Isaiah, because it forces us to ask: did Christ bear sins only for Israel, or for the world?

Isaiah 53:8 does say, “for the transgression of my people was he stricken.” That is true — Israel was God’s covenant people, and Messiah came through them. But the same chapter doesn’t limit His sacrifice to Israel. “The LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isaiah 53:6). “By his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous; and he shall bear their iniquities” (Isaiah 53:11). The scope is broader than one nation, it is many, it is all who believe.

You referenced Isaiah 49, and that’s the key. God speaks of His Servant and says, “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob… I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). That is not just kingdom-future; it is the gospel fulfilled in Christ now.

The New Testament confirms it. John the Baptist declared, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). Jesus said, “God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Paul preached, “There is no distinction between Jew and Greek… for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved” (Romans 10:12–13).

Here’s the contrast: if His death only covers Israel, then Gentiles are still in their sins. But Scripture says, “He himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

The gospel is not limited to one nation or postponed to a future kingdom. Christ bore sins at the cross, once for all. “For by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified” (Hebrews 10:14). Jew or Gentile, any who believe are forgiven now, by His blood.

Isaiah 53:8 does say, “for the transgression of my people was he stricken.” That is true — Israel was God’s covenant people, and Messiah came through them. But the same chapter doesn’t limit His sacrifice to Israel. “The LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isaiah 53:6). “By his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous; and he shall bear their iniquities” (Isaiah 53:11). The scope is broader than one nation, it is many, it is all who believe

[Isa 53:6 KJV] 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.................Israel is called sheep. The us in iniquity of us all is Israel only.

You referenced Isaiah 49, and that’s the key. God speaks of His Servant and says, “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob… I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). That is not just kingdom-future; it is the gospel fulfilled in Christ now.

Yes Christ is the light to the Gentiles and no not just in the kingdom

[Gal 3:8 KJV] 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed...................Gentiles would be blessed by faith in Christ

[Act 13:46-47 KJV] 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, [saying], I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.............................Paul was to bring the light of Christ thru the gospel of Christ to the Gentiles

 

[quietthinker]

WHO ARE THE MANY THAT ARE FORGIVEN?​

All humanity from all ages!

 

[bdavidc]

WHO ARE THE MANY THAT ARE FORGIVEN?
All humanity from all ages!

Scripture never says that forgiveness is to be applied to all people, simply because they are human. Forgiveness is applied to those who are born again in faith in Jesus Christ. Jesus said, “Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). Forgiveness is linked to repentance and faith, not just being human. Acts 10: 43 says, “To Him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.”

Paul wrote, “In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace” (Eph. 1:7). That “we” is “believe[r]s who are in Him,” not the entire world without exception. John also wrote, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).

God’s love is extended to all (John 3: 16), but only to the repentant who believe are actually forgiven and cleansed. Without the new birth the person is left in their sins (John 8:24).

 

[soberxp]

I appreciate you pointing to Isaiah, because it forces us to ask: did Christ bear sins only for Israel, or for the world?

Isaiah 53:8 does say, “for the transgression of my people was he stricken.” That is true — Israel was God’s covenant people, and Messiah came through them. But the same chapter doesn’t limit His sacrifice to Israel. “The LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isaiah 53:6). “By his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous; and he shall bear their iniquities” (Isaiah 53:11). The scope is broader than one nation, it is many, it is all who believe.

You referenced Isaiah 49, and that’s the key. God speaks of His Servant and says, “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob… I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6). That is not just kingdom-future; it is the gospel fulfilled in Christ now.

The New Testament confirms it. John the Baptist declared, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). Jesus said, “God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Paul preached, “There is no distinction between Jew and Greek… for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved” (Romans 10:12–13).

Here’s the contrast: if His death only covers Israel, then Gentiles are still in their sins. But Scripture says, “He himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

The gospel is not limited to one nation or postponed to a future kingdom. Christ bore sins at the cross, once for all. “For by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified” (Hebrews 10:14). Jew or Gentile, any who believe are forgiven now, by His blood.

What you said is correct.

but....

10:26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?

10:27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

 

[Doug]

WHO ARE THE MANY THAT ARE FORGIVEN?​

All humanity from all ages!

[Mat 26:28 KJV] 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Many is a different word than all

 

[soberxp]

[Mat 26:28 KJV] 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Many is a different word than all

Is it possible that it is not all because someone has succeeded in reaching the level of Jesus Christ?

 

[Doug]

Is it possible that it is not all because someone has succeeded in reaching the level of Jesus Christ?

What are you saying?

 

[Behold]

Isiah 53 describes that Christ bore the sins only for Israel, his people.

"Jesus came to save sinners".

Who is that?

That is everyone... as "ALL have sinned"......and that is why John 3:16 says that God sent Jesus to the Cross for the the "WORLD".....and not just for Israel or for the Elect.

Its God's will that """ALL should believe In Jesus whom God sent."""

"ALL".....means "ALL".........."Everyone".......not just Israel or the "elect".

 

[soberxp]

What are you saying?

I mean that someone in the human race was born as completely sinless as Jesus Christ.

So it is many not all.

 

[Behold]

I mean that someone in the human race was born as completely sinless as Jesus Christ.

So it is many not all.

The "Many" ......in Romans 5:19 is explaining that many will be "made righteous".......vs, the entirely human race of sinners.

So, out of the entire WORLD of people..... = MANY of them, will become a Christian........and they are the MANY who are "made righteousness"......found in the verse.

""""For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall = many are made righteous..""""

 

[Doug]

I mean that someone in the human race was born as completely sinless as Jesus Christ.

So it is many not all.

Where are you getting this?

The Bible says all have sinned......................[Rom 3:23 KJV] 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;