Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom
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Marvelloustime
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Dan Clarkston
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True Christians follow Jesus Christ.... not Paul.
Paul was just a servant of the Lord like we are... he put his britches on one leg at a time like everyone else and is not more special than anybody else which is evident by how the devil slapped him around so much during his time in ministry.
The devil tried slapping Jesus around... but Jesus slapped the devil around instead.
I'll stick with Jesus as the model I'm following to pattern my life after Jesus thank you very much
amigo de christo
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Let me say this again so as you can better understand it my friend .
Its not me who is the enemy , i am here only to help .
These people who preach pauline are not FOLLOWING CHRIST or even the doctrines of paul who DID FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST .
I concur , we STICK WITH CHRIST
and i know PAUL DID as DID EVERY OTHER APOSTLE .
Their words are proof they knew THE TRUTH and i highly suggest we feast ON ALL them words .
NOT a letter one , left to us in that bible
contradicted JESUS CHRIST OR one another .
That be MY POINT .
Dan Clarkston
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amigo de christo
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I have an idea .
Show me where paul or peter , or jude , james , or john
contradicted each other or JESUS .
You will find they did not contradict each other OR JESUS
IN fact you will find Their words were inspired of GOD , OF CHRIST , OF THE SPIRIT .
The more we read and love and heed and embrace and beleive the words in that bible
THE MORE we gonna be built up to withstand the wiles of men .
GOD is with , Christ is with , the Spirit is with The sheep .
Sheep dont twist
sheep dont omit parts of the doctrine left to us in the bible .
Not a word of JESUS will they omit , THEY WILL BELIEVE
and even if they understand not , and specially at the first , THEY BELIEVE .
SO if you dont mind
i am gonna use a phrase , I THINK i invented , but maybe not , but use it i will .
TIME TO MAKE BIBLE READING for our own selves GREAT AGAIN . as IN GET them rumps back INTO BIBLES and fast .
cause men be a fleecing .
amigo de christo
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Paul i know followed CHRIST
peter i know followed Christ
as did all the apostles .
its men who preach pauline , preach RCC , preach mormon , preach jw
preach sda , preach mens doctrines I WORRY ABOUT . THEY DECIEVED
Dan Clarkston
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I'm not the one claiming they contradicted Jesus
You need to talk about this with those involved in following Paul as their lord and savior, not me.
following Paul instead of Christ who showed us the way is Idolatry. It makes no sense, why follow a disciple and not the master?
"The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord."(Mat 10:24) you see the error of your way?
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amigo de christo
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oh believe me when i say is not paul , its not Christ that many follow , specially in these late and last and final hours
upon earth . HAD you just seen what i did on another thread .
Good night the ecumincal false love train cannot be stopped .
Tears my friend , tears for this people .
The lie will be embrace as it has already by many .
They will soon embrace and welcome all
WELL , almost all . THE TRUE NON Cornforming sheep Are not welcome
and soon even the laws of the land and the peoples of earth
will join hand in hand AGAINST any and all who did not conform to this inclusive ecumincal love god .
You think it cant happen . OH friend its on the move and on the rise .
Well , i did what i could , by grace i will continue to expose it
though the more i do it will cost me to banned in time . It was good knowing you my friend .
BUT i dont compromise and cannot and will not just go with flow of finding common ground .
WE in serious trouble my friend . Oh its here . Its here for sure and for certain .
2 John 1:
9. Whosoever transgresseth, and abide not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not GOD, He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the FATHER and the Son.
10. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him GOD speed:
11. For he that biddeth him GOD speed is partaker of his evil deeds
Abiding in the doctrine of Christ that is the New Testament, is as to obeying GOD and doing HIS will.
Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord
9. Whosoever transgresseth, and abide not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not GOD, He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the FATHER and the Son.
10. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him GOD speed:
11. For he that biddeth him GOD speed is partaker of his evil deeds
Abiding in the doctrine of Christ that is the New Testament, is as to obeying GOD and doing HIS will.
Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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So now i ask us a few questions and then will leave a response to said questions .
CAN GOD LIE .
IS GOD the TRUTH , CHRIST the TRUTH , the SPIRIT of GOD the TRUTH .
So then why do many act as though and follow a god who does lie
and has made void the very words of GOD and of the PROPHETS and Apostels and CHRIST HIMSELF .
Because the last time i checked
the only one who uses the words of GOD , aka scripture but does so in a twisted way
in order to get one to beleive a lie , WELL THAT ONE DARN SURE AINT GOD , though it sure has desired to be AS GOD .
Do you ever get the feeling
we in the days of upmost delusion and that many now seem to love and to make a lie . cause i surely do .
And not only do i THINK we in such days , BY GRACE I KNOW and cAN SEE we are in such days . A massive delusion has come
to merge the decieved within christendom with the decieved false religoins and all under A LIE of course .
Behold
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Paul told the Christians.......to "be followers of me as i follow Christ".
However, dont be confused @LoveYeshua ... as This does not mean to worship Paul......It means to emulate his walk of faith and to learn His doctrine.
= Remember, Paul is our NT Teacher, and He's the greatest Christian who ever lived, but He's not The Savior.
Bible 101.
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Paul teaches the BELIEVERS....
""Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ."""
New Living Translation
And you should imitate me, just as I Imitate Christ.
King James Bible
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
New King James Version
Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
New American Standard Bible
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
NASB 1995
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
NASB 1977
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
Legacy Standard Bible
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
Amplified Bible
Imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.
Christian Standard Bible
Imitate me, as I also imitate Christ.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Imitate me, as I also imitate Christ.
American Standard Version
Be ye imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Contemporary English Version
You must follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
You will not listen but I need to tell you that from the beginning, the Scriptures direct us to follow the One God would send. Moses said: “The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear” (Deuteronomy 18:15). And through Isaiah the Lord declared of His Servant: “I will give You as a covenant to the people, as a light to the Gentiles, to open blind eyes, to bring out prisoners from the prison” (Isaiah 42:6–7). These words show us that God prepared His people to follow the Messiah Himself when He came.
When Jesus came, He confirmed this by calling all people to follow Him. He said: “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24). He also promised: “He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life” (John 8:12).
The disciples, who walked with Him and were chosen by Him, repeated the same truth. Peter said: “Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps” (1 Peter 2:21). And John declared: “He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked” (1 John 2:6).
So from the Law, through the Prophets, to Christ Himself, and then His own disciples, the message is the same: the One we are called to hear, follow, and imitate is Jesus Christ alone. No prophet, no apostle, and no teacher takes His place.
When Jesus came, He confirmed this by calling all people to follow Him. He said: “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24). He also promised: “He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life” (John 8:12).
The disciples, who walked with Him and were chosen by Him, repeated the same truth. Peter said: “Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps” (1 Peter 2:21). And John declared: “He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked” (1 John 2:6).
So from the Law, through the Prophets, to Christ Himself, and then His own disciples, the message is the same: the One we are called to hear, follow, and imitate is Jesus Christ alone. No prophet, no apostle, and no teacher takes His place.
Behold
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Paul says you are also to "follow Him and imitate Him".
1 Corin 11......."""""Pattern yourselves after me [follow my example], as I imitate and follow Christ (the Messiah)."""""
So, dont let that Bible get in the way of your private theology... @LoveYeshua
it is not private theology but scripture that you reject. Jesus said, “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master” (Matthew 10:24). He showed us the way of humility and obedience, never denying the Law or the Temple, for He Himself said, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). When He was arrested, He submitted quietly to the Father’s will and bore witness to truth without stirring up confusion or denying Moses.
But when Paul was arrested, we see something different. In Acts 21:28, the Jews cried out against him saying, “This is the man who teaches all men everywhere against the people, the law, and this place.” This was the testimony of those who heard him, and it shows clearly that Paul was accused not for doing as Christ did, but for speaking against the very Law and Temple that Jesus respected. Later, when standing before the council, instead of answering as Christ did, Paul caused a dispute between Pharisees and Sadducees by shouting, “I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee; concerning the hope and resurrection of the dead I am being judged!” (Acts 23:6). This divided the council and led to confusion, which is not the way of Christ.
When Jesus was questioned by the high priest and accused falsely, He did not use tricks or create divisions to escape. Instead He said, “I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet; and in secret I have said nothing” (John 18:20). His testimony was straight, clear, and without guile.
This shows the great difference: Christ honoured the Law and the Temple, teaching obedience and truth. Paul, on the other hand, was known and accused for teaching against them, and when arrested he defended himself with division and clever words. Therefore, when Paul says, “Imitate me, as I imitate Christ” (1 Corinthians 11:1), his own record in Acts proves that he did not walk in the same steps of Jesus, for the disciple is not above his Master, and no one can replace Christ as the One to follow. You are blind to not see this or you refuse to acknowledge it.
You follow Paul then, as you're from the Pauline sect and deluded deceived by the devil as his 'tares' planted in you.
As according to the same Paul, he said likewise, we church are built in the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets.
We follow All Scripture=Holy Bible, as according to 2 Timothy 3:16&17, and Christ is the 'Chief Corner Stone'.
And based on any stone building structure, that is the 'first stone' that will be laid on a foundation.
And then is followed by other stones(Apostles&Prophets) that make up a building.
GOD is the 'builder' and the 'foundation' and 'pillar' is HIS every word that proceeded out of HIS mouth.
And the 'stones' are those moulded in shape who'll make up the surrounding wall of that foundation and pillars.
Paul is merely one of that stone among other stones which was placed when and after the Chief Corner Stone was first laid.
No thank you, we've nothing in common with 'imposters' and 'counterfeits'.
The parable of Jesus says it all, that one day an owner of a field with his servants(angels) sowed seeds of wheat and rested for the day.
Then during the night while they rested, an enemy sneaked in and sowed the seeds of tares in the same field.
Meaning, one day GOD with HIS servants(Son, Apostles and Prophets) sow the seed of wheat(HIS Word of truth) in HIS field(world).
While they rested for the night and slept, meaning, while HE and HIS servants are away, the devil sneaks in and sow the seeds of tare(his word of lies) in the same field(world).
As they awoke and discovered that there were tares growing together with the wheat, HIS servants requested permission to uproot the tares.
But HE stopped them, concerned that the the wheat will be uprooted as well when uprooting the tares.
Therefore HE told them to wait till the day of Harvest(judgement day), and then they'll harvest and separate them.
For the wheat(saints) will be stored in the barn(Heaven), while the tares(child of darkness) will be thrown into the fire(hell).
That's why since Christ and until today we're living together with the 'liars', 'spirit of anti-Christ', 'imposters' and 'counterfeits'(tares).
Behold
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I don't reject Scripture.
I teach it., i teach Pauline Theology.
So, I post to you what Paul teaches, and you can't accept it because it does not fit your hyper-religious point of view.
That's your problem, not mine @LoveYeshua
Here it is again.
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Paul teaches...
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Contemporary English Version
You must follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
Literal Standard Version
Become followers of me, as I also [am] of Christ.
New International Version
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
New Living Translation
And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.
English Standard Version
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.
Berean Standard Bible
You are to imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.
King James Bible
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
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