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You forgot John 4:23...
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

You forgot John 4:23...
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Pierac, what are you saying then?

 

[Pierac]

Pierac, what are you saying then?

I'm saying he forgot to use John 4:23 and just went to 4:24... see how much you miss!

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I'm saying he forgot to use John 4:23 and just went to 4:24... see how much you miss!

I'm there now. What are you talking about? You said: He forgot to use John 4:23 and just went to 4:24. Who is he?

 

[Pierac]

I'm there now. What are you talking about? I'm saying he forgot to use John 4:23 and just went to 4:24. Who is he?

Walter who else?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Walter who else?

Pierac, please, tell us why you said: In post #2, what did you say? Did you read John 4:1-26?

 

[Pierac]

Pierac, please, tell us why you said: In post #2, what did you say? Did you read John 4:1-26?

I said nothing... just posted the scripture before the scripture you posted...

Is this Walter posting as Debbie or Debbie posting as Walter?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I said nothing... just posted the scripture before the scripture you posted...

Is this Walter posting as Debbie or Debbie posting as Walter?

Oh, I see, I'm the poster. We work together as a team,

 

[Pierac]

Oh, I see, I'm the poster. We work together as a team,

Something tells me Walter... never post here!

I understand as a Woman... Your not given the respect in this age... as in ages past... thus post as you do...

Luk 8:3 and Joanna the wife of Cuza (Herod's household manager), Susanna, and many others who provided for them (JESUS) out of their own resources...

Just saying...

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Something tells me Walter... never post here!

I understand as a Woman... Your not given the respect in this age... as in ages past... thus post as you do...

Luk 8:3 and Joanna the wife of Cuza (Herod's household manager), Susanna, and many others who provided for them (JESUS) out of their own resources...

Just saying...

Hello Pierac, We tried looking for look that information we had, and have been in prayer.

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Something tells me Walter... never post here!

I understand as a Woman... Your not given the respect in this age... as in ages past... thus post as you do...

Luk 8:3 and Joanna the wife of Cuza (Herod's household manager), Susanna, and many others who provided for them (JESUS) out of their own resources...

Just saying...

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Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[Pierac]

Hi Pierac, What Is The Importance Of Seven Days Cycle? at DuckDuckGo

Love, Walter And Debbie

I know nothing of the Seven Days Cycle.... However....

We might consider briefly other issues. One occurs in the in Roman 16, in which Paul speaks of a woman, Junia and a man who was presumably her husband, Andronicus, both of whom he calls “foremost among the apostles” (v.7). This is a significant verse, because it is the only place in the New Testament in which a woman is referred to as an apostle. Interpreters had been so impressed by the passage that a large number of them had insisted that it cannot mean what it says, and so have translated the verse as referring not to a woman’s name Junia but to a man named Junias, who along with his companion Andronicus is praised as an apostle. The problem with this translation is whereas Junia was a common name for a woman, there is no evidence in the ancient world for “Junias” as a man’s name. Paul is referring to a woman named Junia, even though in some modern English Bibles (you may want to check your own!) translators continue to refer to this female apostle as if she were a man named Junius.

English standard Version
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.
American Standard Version
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in
Christ before me.
New American Standard Bible
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
King James Bible
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Some scribes also had difficulty with ascribing apostleship to this otherwise unknown woman, and so made a very slight change in the text to circumvent the problem. In some of our manuscripts, rather than saying “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives and fellow prisoners, who are foremost among the apostles,” the text is now changed so as to be more readily translated: “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives; and also greet my fellow prisoners who are foremost among the apostles.” With this textual change, no longer does one need to worry about a woman being cited among the apostolic band of men.

In short, there were debates in the early centuries of the church over the role of women, and on occasion these debates spilled over into the textual transmission of the New Testament itself, as scribes sometime changed their text in order to make them coincide more closely
with the scribes’ own sense of the (limited) role of women in the church.”

It appears that scholars of some of these reference books only ask theologians for the definition or seek the incorrect information to match their theological view. Since there is no know record of a male name of Junias, and all textual scholars and manuscripts agree that the name is Junia, why are some Bibles and Bible dictionaries and concordance changing the true meaning?

King James with strong numbers

Salute782 Andronicus408 and2532 Junia,2458

( Note: the same Strong number but different name?)

NASB with strong numbers
Greet782 Andronicus408 and Junias2458

G2458
Thayer Definition:
Junia = “youthful”

1) a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk and fellow prisoners

Part of Speech: noun proper feminine . (Notice no mention of apostleship )

A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Latin origin

Strong’s Definition:
Of Latin origin; Junias, a Christian: - Junias. (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship and wrong name)

1. Word Study Definition: (Notice no mention of apostleship and wrong name) Iounías; gen. Iounía, fem. Junias, a kinsman and fellow prisoner of Paul

Easton Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship)

Junia
(Rom_16:7), a Christian at Rome to whom Paul sends salutations along with Andronicus.

Faussett Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender)

Junia
A Christian at Rome, one of Paul's "kinsmen ("fellow countrymen", Rom_9:3) and fellow prisoners who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before him" (Rom_16:7).

Now we know why you use Walter... There is a whole topic on this subject!!!

Hard to be a Woman of God... on a forum and get respect!

Just saying as a Man who knows better....

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I know nothing of the Seven Days Cycle.... However....

We might consider briefly other issues. One occurs in the in Roman 16, in which Paul speaks of a woman, Junia and a man who was presumably her husband, Andronicus, both of whom he calls “foremost among the apostles” (v.7). This is a significant verse, because it is the only place in the New Testament in which a woman is referred to as an apostle. Interpreters had been so impressed by the passage that a large number of them had insisted that it cannot mean what it says, and so have translated the verse as referring not to a woman’s name Junia but to a man named Junias, who along with his companion Andronicus is praised as an apostle. The problem with this translation is whereas Junia was a common name for a woman, there is no evidence in the ancient world for “Junias” as a man’s name. Paul is referring to a woman named Junia, even though in some modern English Bibles (you may want to check your own!) translators continue to refer to this female apostle as if she were a man named Junius.

English standard Version
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.
American Standard Version
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in
Christ before me.
New American Standard Bible
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
King James Bible
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Some scribes also had difficulty with ascribing apostleship to this otherwise unknown woman, and so made a very slight change in the text to circumvent the problem. In some of our manuscripts, rather than saying “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives and fellow prisoners, who are foremost among the apostles,” the text is now changed so as to be more readily translated: “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives; and also greet my fellow prisoners who are foremost among the apostles.” With this textual change, no longer does one need to worry about a woman being cited among the apostolic band of men.

In short, there were debates in the early centuries of the church over the role of women, and on occasion these debates spilled over into the textual transmission of the New Testament itself, as scribes sometime changed their text in order to make them coincide more closely
with the scribes’ own sense of the (limited) role of women in the church.”

It appears that scholars of some of these reference books only ask theologians for the definition or seek the incorrect information to match their theological view. Since there is no know record of a male name of Junias, and all textual scholars and manuscripts agree that the name is Junia, why are some Bibles and Bible dictionaries and concordance changing the true meaning?

King James with strong numbers

Salute782 Andronicus408 and2532 Junia,2458

( Note: the same Strong number but different name?)

NASB with strong numbers
Greet782 Andronicus408 and Junias2458

G2458
Thayer Definition:
Junia = “youthful”

1) a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk and fellow prisoners

Part of Speech: noun proper feminine . (Notice no mention of apostleship )

A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Latin origin

Strong’s Definition:
Of Latin origin; Junias, a Christian: - Junias. (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship and wrong name)

1. Word Study Definition: (Notice no mention of apostleship and wrong name) Iounías; gen. Iounía, fem. Junias, a kinsman and fellow prisoner of Paul

Easton Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship)

Junia
(Rom_16:7), a Christian at Rome to whom Paul sends salutations along with Andronicus.

Faussett Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender)

Junia
A Christian at Rome, one of Paul's "kinsmen ("fellow countrymen", Rom_9:3) and fellow prisoners who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before him" (Rom_16:7).

Now we know why you use Walter... There is a whole topic on this subject!!!

Hard to be a Woman of God... on a forum and get respect!

Just saying as a Man who knows better....

Hello Pierac, how are you? Thank you for your response, Peter Preaches To The Gentiles: The Gentiles Hear the Good News: Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: Acts 10:23-34-43

Believers Are Free From The Law: there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:1-23-29

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I know nothing of the Seven Days Cycle.... However....

We might consider briefly other issues. One occurs in the in Roman 16, in which Paul speaks of a woman, Junia and a man who was presumably her husband, Andronicus, both of whom he calls “foremost among the apostles” (v.7). This is a significant verse, because it is the only place in the New Testament in which a woman is referred to as an apostle. Interpreters had been so impressed by the passage that a large number of them had insisted that it cannot mean what it says, and so have translated the verse as referring not to a woman’s name Junia but to a man named Junias, who along with his companion Andronicus is praised as an apostle. The problem with this translation is whereas Junia was a common name for a woman, there is no evidence in the ancient world for “Junias” as a man’s name. Paul is referring to a woman named Junia, even though in some modern English Bibles (you may want to check your own!) translators continue to refer to this female apostle as if she were a man named Junius.

English standard Version
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.
American Standard Version
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in
Christ before me.
New American Standard Bible
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
King James Bible
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Some scribes also had difficulty with ascribing apostleship to this otherwise unknown woman, and so made a very slight change in the text to circumvent the problem. In some of our manuscripts, rather than saying “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives and fellow prisoners, who are foremost among the apostles,” the text is now changed so as to be more readily translated: “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives; and also greet my fellow prisoners who are foremost among the apostles.” With this textual change, no longer does one need to worry about a woman being cited among the apostolic band of men.

In short, there were debates in the early centuries of the church over the role of women, and on occasion these debates spilled over into the textual transmission of the New Testament itself, as scribes sometime changed their text in order to make them coincide more closely
with the scribes’ own sense of the (limited) role of women in the church.”

It appears that scholars of some of these reference books only ask theologians for the definition or seek the incorrect information to match their theological view. Since there is no know record of a male name of Junias, and all textual scholars and manuscripts agree that the name is Junia, why are some Bibles and Bible dictionaries and concordance changing the true meaning?

King James with strong numbers

Salute782 Andronicus408 and2532 Junia,2458

( Note: the same Strong number but different name?)

NASB with strong numbers
Greet782 Andronicus408 and Junias2458

G2458
Thayer Definition:
Junia = “youthful”

1) a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk and fellow prisoners

Part of Speech: noun proper feminine . (Notice no mention of apostleship )

A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Latin origin

Strong’s Definition:
Of Latin origin; Junias, a Christian: - Junias. (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship and wrong name)

1. Word Study Definition: (Notice no mention of apostleship and wrong name) Iounías; gen. Iounía, fem. Junias, a kinsman and fellow prisoner of Paul

Easton Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship)

Junia
(Rom_16:7), a Christian at Rome to whom Paul sends salutations along with Andronicus.

Faussett Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender)

Junia
A Christian at Rome, one of Paul's "kinsmen ("fellow countrymen", Rom_9:3) and fellow prisoners who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before him" (Rom_16:7).

Now we know why you use Walter... There is a whole topic on this subject!!!

Hard to be a Woman of God... on a forum and get respect!

Just saying as a Man who knows better....

Hello Pierac, how are you? Another good post, you said: I know nothing of the Seven Days Cycle.... However....

This is only one example if interested, ok?

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Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I know nothing of the Seven Days Cycle.... However....

We might consider briefly other issues. One occurs in the in Roman 16, in which Paul speaks of a woman, Junia and a man who was presumably her husband, Andronicus, both of whom he calls “foremost among the apostles” (v.7). This is a significant verse, because it is the only place in the New Testament in which a woman is referred to as an apostle. Interpreters had been so impressed by the passage that a large number of them had insisted that it cannot mean what it says, and so have translated the verse as referring not to a woman’s name Junia but to a man named Junias, who along with his companion Andronicus is praised as an apostle. The problem with this translation is whereas Junia was a common name for a woman, there is no evidence in the ancient world for “Junias” as a man’s name. Paul is referring to a woman named Junia, even though in some modern English Bibles (you may want to check your own!) translators continue to refer to this female apostle as if she were a man named Junius.

English standard Version
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.
American Standard Version
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in
Christ before me.
New American Standard Bible
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
King James Bible
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Some scribes also had difficulty with ascribing apostleship to this otherwise unknown woman, and so made a very slight change in the text to circumvent the problem. In some of our manuscripts, rather than saying “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives and fellow prisoners, who are foremost among the apostles,” the text is now changed so as to be more readily translated: “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives; and also greet my fellow prisoners who are foremost among the apostles.” With this textual change, no longer does one need to worry about a woman being cited among the apostolic band of men.

In short, there were debates in the early centuries of the church over the role of women, and on occasion these debates spilled over into the textual transmission of the New Testament itself, as scribes sometime changed their text in order to make them coincide more closely
with the scribes’ own sense of the (limited) role of women in the church.”

It appears that scholars of some of these reference books only ask theologians for the definition or seek the incorrect information to match their theological view. Since there is no know record of a male name of Junias, and all textual scholars and manuscripts agree that the name is Junia, why are some Bibles and Bible dictionaries and concordance changing the true meaning?

King James with strong numbers

Salute782 Andronicus408 and2532 Junia,2458

( Note: the same Strong number but different name?)

NASB with strong numbers
Greet782 Andronicus408 and Junias2458

G2458
Thayer Definition:
Junia = “youthful”

1) a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk and fellow prisoners

Part of Speech: noun proper feminine . (Notice no mention of apostleship )

A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Latin origin

Strong’s Definition:
Of Latin origin; Junias, a Christian: - Junias. (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship and wrong name)

1. Word Study Definition: (Notice no mention of apostleship and wrong name) Iounías; gen. Iounía, fem. Junias, a kinsman and fellow prisoner of Paul

Easton Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender or apostleship)

Junia
(Rom_16:7), a Christian at Rome to whom Paul sends salutations along with Andronicus.

Faussett Bible Dictionary: (Notice no mention of gender)

Junia
A Christian at Rome, one of Paul's "kinsmen ("fellow countrymen", Rom_9:3) and fellow prisoners who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before him" (Rom_16:7).

Now we know why you use Walter... There is a whole topic on this subject!!!

Hard to be a Woman of God... on a forum and get respect!

Just saying as a Man who knows better....

Hi Pierac, how are you? Sister, just wanted to share more information on this thread about The Seven Days Cycle:

Sabbath Issues​ Is there anyone that keeps The Sabbath Day Holy, from Sunset on the 6th.Day/Friday until The ending of The 7th. Day at Sunset, on Saturday by The Gregorian Calendar. If so being on one accord for that event to happen, We want to thank God for your Faith in doing just that as a start to perfection. Every Sabbath , Sabbath Scriptures: About Sabbath Scriptures , Sabbath Day In The KJV Sabbath Day, Please Click on the link. kingjamesbibleonline Sabbaths , Judging one another about the Sabbath . We have reason to believe that The Sabbaths and the Feast Days/Holy Convocations go together for His/Jesus customs as He and The Apostles, went in the synagogues. Luke 4:16 , Acts 17:2 Acts 17:2 Righteousness is a position. When you become saved you are considered in right standing with God. ... Holiness is the quality of being holy,a life that is full of godly character.Righteousness is to be upright in God, to be blamless. A righteousness man is also a holy man,both of them works together. Ephesians 4 KJV Origin of the Seventh-day Sabbath Saturday 8-19-23 7th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Elul 2 5783, 60th. Summer Day Sabbath Shalom/Happy Sabbath Good Morning At the creation of mankind, some 6,000 years ago, we read: "Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the SEVENTH DAY HE RESTED from all his work. And God BLESSED the seventh day and made it HOLY, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done" (Gen.2:1-3, NIV). Notice! Right at the beginning of the creation, when God initially created all mankind (Adam and Eve, our forebears), He also established the seventh-day Sabbath as a "holy" day, and sanctified it by resting upon it. In the original Hebrew calendar, the only calendar mentioned throughout the Bible -- the Word of God -- all the other days of the week have only numbers, not names. Only the seventh day was given a NAME -- the SABBATH. The very word "Sabbath" in Hebrew meant what the day was supposed to be -- a day of "rest, cessation from labor." It literally meant, "rest, to keep as a day of rest; to cease, to desist to leave off; to celebrate the sabbath; to cause to cease; cessation, a ceasing, interruption of work; a week." Sabbath Given BEFORE Sinai The next mention of the Sabbath in the Word of God occurs in the book of Exodus, the second book of the Bible. After the Israelites had been slaves in Egypt for several hundred years, they had lost the knowledge of the law of God. Their Egyptian overlords had compelled them to work and toil seven days a week, without any respite, to build treasure houses for Pharaoh, and cities. But Almighty God heard the cries of His people, and brought them out of Egypt by a powerful hand and many miracles (Exo.8-12). After humbling the Egyptians by mighty plagues which devastated their land, God brought His nation Israel through the Red Sea and into the wilderness of the desert (Exo.14-15; 16:1). At this point the Israelites, who had no real faith in God or Moses, His servant, began to grumble and complain, saying, "If only we had died by the Lord's hand in Egypt! There we sat around pots of meat and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death" (Exo.16:3). At this juncture God performed a tremendous series of miracles, to provide food for His people, and to show them once again by mighty proofs, which day of the week was the weekly SABBATH day! Notice! God told Moses, "I will rain down bread from heaven for you. The people are to go out each day and gather enough for that day. In this way I will TEST them and see whether they will follow my instructions. On the SIXTH day they are to prepare what they bring in, and that is to be twice as much as they gather on the other days" (verses 4-5). The next morning the Israelites found on the desert floor flakes like frost on the ground -- miraculous bread from heaven. The Israelites went out to gather it. To be continued: Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

10-5-25

Hi Pierac,

"And when they measured it by the omer, he who gathered much did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not have too little. Each one gathered as much as he needed" (v.17-18). Some, however, even though Moses commanded them not to save it over till the next day, disobeyed; and that which was kept over was "full of maggots and began to smell" (v.20). Moses rebuked them for their disobedience. The account continues: "Each morning everyone gathered as much as he needed, and when the sun grew hot, it melted away. On the sixth day, they gathered TWICE as much -- two omers for each person -- and the leaders of the community came and reported this to Moses. He said to them, 'This is what the Lord commanded: "Tomorrow is to be a DAY OF REST, A HOLY SABBATH to the LORD [Yehovah]." So bake what you want to bake and boil what you want to boil. Save whatever is left and keep it until morning'" (verses 21-23).

This time, when they saved it over till the next morning, it did not breed maggots and stink! Moses then told them, "Eat it today, because TODAY IS A SABBATH to the LORD [Yehovah]. You will not find any of it on the ground today. Six days you are to gather it, but on the SEVENTH DAY, THE SABBATH, there will not be any" (vs.24-25). Nevertheless, some of the people tried to gather it on the Sabbath as well -- and found none anywhere! "Then the Lord said to Moses, 'How long will you refuse to keep my commands and my instructions? Bear in mind that the LORD [Yehovah] has given you THE SABBATH; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out.' So the people RESTED on the seventh day" (verses 28-30).

Notice the specific miracles God performed to re-establish in the minds of His people the correct seventh day of rest -- the Sabbath day! 1. He provided manna from heaven by a miracle six days a week. 2. If kept over a second day, He caused it to breed worms and stink. 3. On the sixth day, He provided twice as much as the other five days. 4. That kept over on the seventh day did NOT stink or breed worms! 5. On the seventh day of each week, there was NONE provided! 6. God performed these miracles for FORTY LONG YEARS, without interruption or fail! After this series of miracles, performed for forty long years, whereby God Almighty provided FOOD for His people in the desert do you think there was any QUESTION which day was the weekly Sabbath day of rest for His people? This miracle began on the fifteenth day of the second month (Exo.16:1).

To be continued:

Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

10-5-25

Hello Pierac, how are you? The Israelites did not reach the desert of Sinai until the third month after they left Egypt (Exo.19:1). After leaving Rephidim, where they fought the Amalekites -- the Hyksos kings who were invading Egypt at that time -- they camped in front of Mount Sinai. Moses then went up into Sinai to speak with God (Exo.19:3), and returned to deliver God's words to the elders of the people (v.7). Two days probably elapsed. Then Moses took the people’s answer to God, and spoke with Him again (v.8). This would have been the third day. The next day God communicated His message to Moses, saying, "Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their clothes and be ready by the THIRD DAY, because on that day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people" (vs.10-11). The third day from that point would have been Sivan 6, the usual date of the annual festival of Pentecost! Thus Almighty God gave the Ten Commandments, including the fourth commandment concerning the Sabbath day, on the very same day on which He sent His Holy Spirit upon the New Testament Church (Acts 2:1), beginning the Church age! Isn't it interesting that God began the Old Testament "church," and gave Israel His laws, and ratified a marriage covenant with them, on the very same day He began the NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH -- THE DAY OF PENTECOST! And it was on that very day that God said, and wrote with His very own fingers, the TEN COMMANDMENTS (Exodus 20:1-17).

And when He came to the fourth commandment He declared: "REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY by keeping it HOLY. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a SABBATH to the Lord [Yehovah] your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH day and made it HOLY" (Exo.20:8-11). Notice several things about this commandment. First God told them to "REMEMBER" the Sabbath. It was something ALREADY IN EXISTENCE! It did not come into being at Mount Sinai, but had been in existence FROM CREATION! It was the day God blessed at Creation, and the only day He made HOLY. No other day of the week was ever made "holy." God never made Sunday to be holy. You may search throughout the Bible, and you will find nowhere any evidence of Sunday being made "holy" by Almighty GOD!

To Be Continued:

Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

10-5-25

Hi, Sister, Pierac,

Shouldn't these facts tell us something? Shouldn't they MEAN anything to us? Which day did God Himself "bless"? THE SABBATH! Which day did HE make "HOLY"? Answer: THE SABBATH! When did God make this day holy? AT THE CREATION OF MANKIND -- over 2,000 years before the birth of the first Jew, or Israelite! Why did God create the Sabbath day, by resting upon it, at the creation of mankind? Because this day of weekly rest and worship was designed for ALL MANKIND -- not just the Jews, as some might argue today! Even modern Jews don’t seem to understand this truth. They assume the Sabbath was made for them, and they have preserved it for over three thousand years, faithfully. But they, too, assume it was made for THEM! Why? Because they are, generally speaking, the only people on the face of the earth who observe it today, except for a few small Christian church groups! What is the PURPOSE of the Sabbath command? God explains in Exodus 31, "You must observe my Sabbaths.

This will be a SIGN BETWEEN ME AND YOU for the generations to come, so you may know that I AM THE LORD, who makes you holy. Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. . . . The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a LASTING COVENANT. It will be a SIGN between me and the Israelites FOREVER, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested" (Exo.31:13-17). The Sabbath is a SIGN! It is often called the "test commandment." Many people think they observe the other of the ten commandments of God -- they don't lie, steal, commit adultery, murder, covet, or take God’s name in vain -- at least, not that they know of. But do they rest on the seventh-day Sabbath? Do they keep THIS commandment? (Exo.31:17). (Isa.66:22-23).

Love, Walter And Debbie Love,

 

[Pierac]

10-5-25

Hi, Sister, Pierac,

Shouldn't these facts tell us something? Shouldn't they MEAN anything to us? Which day did God Himself "bless"? THE SABBATH! Which day did HE make "HOLY"? Answer: THE SABBATH! When did God make this day holy? AT THE CREATION OF MANKIND -- over 2,000 years before the birth of the first Jew, or Israelite! Why did God create the Sabbath day, by resting upon it, at the creation of mankind? Because this day of weekly rest and worship was designed for ALL MANKIND -- not just the Jews, as some might argue today! Even modern Jews don’t seem to understand this truth. They assume the Sabbath was made for them, and they have preserved it for over three thousand years, faithfully. But they, too, assume it was made for THEM! Why? Because they are, generally speaking, the only people on the face of the earth who observe it today, except for a few small Christian church groups! What is the PURPOSE of the Sabbath command? God explains in Exodus 31, "You must observe my Sabbaths.

This will be a SIGN BETWEEN ME AND YOU for the generations to come, so you may know that I AM THE LORD, who makes you holy. Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. . . . The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a LASTING COVENANT. It will be a SIGN between me and the Israelites FOREVER, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested" (Exo.31:13-17). The Sabbath is a SIGN! It is often called the "test commandment." Many people think they observe the other of the ten commandments of God -- they don't lie, steal, commit adultery, murder, covet, or take God’s name in vain -- at least, not that they know of. But do they rest on the seventh-day Sabbath? Do they keep THIS commandment? (Exo.31:17). (Isa.66:22-23).

Love, Walter And Debbie Love,

Slow down Debbie... I'm actually the other Paul... A man... given the insite in to your Pain... but not to your justification you want/need now. We must all know our place in the coming Kingdom... But that kingdom has not yet come... so until then... you need to know your place in God's plan! Be silent and know your true place in the coming kingdom... I mean no disrepect... But you post as a spiritual child... I'm sorry... but I need to bail out of this.. AS I have been given a different vision.... But that's OK... The other Paul... said... 1Co 13:9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part;

Sister... we have different parts! Same God!