DO YOU THINK PETER AND THE APOSTLES PREACHED THE CROSS?

[Doug]

There are those who say Peter and the disciples preached the cross. If you are in agreement with this please show me them preaching the cross for salvation for all in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or in Acts.

I contend they didn't so, care to prove your view, and prove me wrong?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Hyperpauline doctrine says they didn't.

Just unbelievably reckless and a total joke

You have already been shown all the Apostles preached the gospel.
You have Also been shown that anybody can take Paul's ordinances, that he preached, and twist the whole thing around to say Paul was a legalist.

Well, that would be disingenuous , to try to muddy up Paul's testimony and twist his actual mission and message.

But you hyperpaulines don't see any harm in doing the same thing to Peter ,James, and John. And how in the world do you trust the book of Hebrews, not knowing for sure if Paul wrote it. ???
Do you put a question mark On Hebrews?
Or on every page of Hebrews , wandering if it came from Paul or not?

What is driving this hyperpauline spirit?????

What is the panic, and urgency to diminish Peter, James, and John?

Did the Holy Spirit inspire Paul to correctly write down the true gospel?????

Did the Holy Spirit Incorrectly, inspire James John and Peter to lay a trap for us unsuspecting Bible readers???
Did I get the corrupted gospel that doesn't save anybody ,from Holy Spirit inspired men, of the bible , whose names do not start with a "P"???

 

[Doug]

Hyperpauline doctrine says they didn't.

Just unbelievably reckless and a total joke

You have already been shown all the Apostles preached the gospel.
You have Also been shown that anybody can take Paul's ordinances, that he preached, and twist the whole thing around to say Paul was a legalist.

Well, that would be disingenuous , to try to muddy up Paul's testimony and twist his actual mission and message.

But you hyperpaulines don't see any harm in doing the same thing to Peter ,James, and John. And how in the world do you trust the book of Hebrews, not knowing for sure if Paul wrote it. ???
Do you put a question mark On Hebrews?
Or on every page of Hebrews , wandering if it came from Paul or not?

What is driving this hyperpauline spirit?????

What is the panic, and urgency to diminish Peter, James, and John?

Did the Holy Spirit inspire Paul to correctly write down the true gospel?????

Did the Holy Spirit Incorrectly, inspire James John and Peter to lay a trap for us unsuspecting Bible readers???
Did I get the corrupted gospel that doesn't save anybody ,from Holy Spirit inspired men, of the bible , whose names do not start with a "P"???

So may I assume you have no verses to contribute?

 

[Doug]

You have already been shown all the Apostles preached the gospel.

It should be easy to show me what verses you think they are preaching the cross for salvation to all, so please show me

 

[LoveYeshua]

There are those who say Peter and the disciples preached the cross. If you are in agreement with this please show me them preaching the cross for salvation for all in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or in Acts.

I contend they didn't so, care to prove your view, and prove me wrong?

I have given you the proof a few days ago, why do you not believe what is written in the bible? why?

 

[LoveYeshua]

Hyperpauline doctrine says they didn't.

Just unbelievably reckless and a total joke

You have already been shown all the Apostles preached the gospel.
You have Also been shown that anybody can take Paul's ordinances, that he preached, and twist the whole thing around to say Paul was a legalist.

Well, that would be disingenuous , to try to muddy up Paul's testimony and twist his actual mission and message.

But you hyperpaulines don't see any harm in doing the same thing to Peter ,James, and John. And how in the world do you trust the book of Hebrews, not knowing for sure if Paul wrote it. ???
Do you put a question mark On Hebrews?
Or on every page of Hebrews , wandering if it came from Paul or not?

What is driving this hyperpauline spirit?????

What is the panic, and urgency to diminish Peter, James, and John?

Did the Holy Spirit inspire Paul to correctly write down the true gospel?????

Did the Holy Spirit Incorrectly, inspire James John and Peter to lay a trap for us unsuspecting Bible readers???
Did I get the corrupted gospel that doesn't save anybody ,from Holy Spirit inspired men, of the bible , whose names do not start with a "P"???

you forgot that paulinist above all else diminish the authority of Christ and his words. they put Paul before Christ everytime but they deny it.

 

[LoveYeshua]

So may I assume you have no verses to contribute?

maybe people are tired to repeat, repeat and repeat the came verses that shows you the truth but that you ignore?

 

[LoveYeshua]

here you go again for the 8665983 time;

yes, the original apostles (the Twelve) clearly preached and taught about Jesus’ death and resurrection, and we can see this directly in their own words — especially in Acts and the Gospelsthemselves.
Below are several places where their preaching and teaching on the death and resurrection is recorded, all in the New King James Version (NKJV)

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1. Peter’s preaching on the day of Pentecost​

Acts 2:22–24, 32

“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know—Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it…
This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses.”

Here Peter clearly teaches about Jesus’ death (“crucified and put to death”) and resurrection (“God raised up”).

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2. Peter again before the council​

Acts 3:14–15

“But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, and killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses.”

Peter declares that they killed Jesus, but God raised Him from the dead — and that the apostles witnessed it.

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3. The apostles’ united message​

Acts 4:33

“And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all.”

All the apostles together were giving witness of the resurrection — it was the center of their message.

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4. Peter before Cornelius (Gentiles)​

Acts 10:39–41

“And we are witnesses of all things which He did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem, whom they killed by hanging on a tree. Him God raised up on the third day, and showed Him openly, not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before by God, even to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.”

Peter again speaks of Jesus’ death (“killed by hanging on a tree”) and resurrection (“God raised Him up on the third day”).

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5. Jesus Himself foretold it — and the disciples later understood​

Before His death, Jesus repeatedly told His disciples what would happen, and they later remembered and taught it.

Matthew 16:21

“From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things... and be killed, and be raised the third day.”

Luke 24:6–8

“He is not here, but is risen! Remember how He spoke to you when He was still in Galilee, saying, ‘The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.’ And they remembered His words.”

So when they later preached, they were simply repeating what Jesus Himself had foretold.

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6. The apostles’ main message everywhere​

Acts 5:30–32

“The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree. Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. And we are His witnesses to these things…”

Again, death, resurrection, and salvation through Christ are all central.

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The apostles — especially Peter, John, and the others who were with Jesus — constantly taught about:

• His death on the cross,
• His resurrection on the third day, and
• Their personal witness of it.

All of this is recorded mainly in the book of Acts and confirmed in the Gospels.

Now lets see how long it will take you to reject these again.

 

[Doug]

maybe people are tired to repeat, repeat and repeat the came verses that shows you the truth but that you ignore?

Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all

 

[LoveYeshua]

Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all

I have already proven that the disciples preached the cross to the gentiles and Jews now I will prove for the 7232334 times to you that Jesus sent the disciples to ALL THEN WORLD to preach all Jesus did and say here it is;

Jesus clearly sent His disciples to all nations​

Matthew 28:19–20 (NKJV)

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you…”

Here Jesus gives a direct command to the eleven apostles after His resurrection. This alone proves that their mission was not limited to Israel but extended to all the world.

Mark 16:15 (NKJV)

“And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.’”

Again, the same order — the message is for everyone, not just Jews.

Luke 24:47 (NKJV)

“And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”

Jesus confirms the plan: the message starts in Jerusalem but spreads to all nations.

John 17:18 (NKJV)

“As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.”

This shows Jesus sending His disciples into the whole world, just as the Father sent Him.

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Peter personally confirmed he was chosen to preach to the Gentiles​

Acts 10:34–35 (NKJV)

“Then Peter opened his mouth and said: ‘In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.’”

This was Peter’s revelation when God sent him to Cornelius, a Roman centurion. He understood that salvation was no longer limited to Israel.

Acts 10:44–45 (NKJV)

“While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished... because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.”

Peter not only preached to Gentiles — God Himself confirmed Peter’s preaching by sending the Holy Spirit upon them.

Acts 15:7 (NKJV) – Peter before the council in Jerusalem:

“Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.”

Here Peter clearly says he was chosen by God to preach to the Gentiles. This is one of the most direct proofs in Scripture.

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The other apostles also carried the message beyond Israel​

Matthew 24:14 (NKJV)

“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.”

This was not a command to Paul, but to the same disciples Jesus was speaking to — showing their work was meant to reach all nations.

Acts 8:14–17 (NKJV)

“When the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them… Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.”

Samaria was outside Jewish religious boundaries — yet Peter and John went and preached there, proving the expansion beyond the Jews.

Acts 8:25 (NKJV)

“So when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, they returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.”

Again, showing that the apostles themselves preached outside Judea.

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Jesus Himself had foretold this mission​

Matthew 8:11 (NKJV)

“And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.”

Here Jesus clearly foresaw the gathering of Gentiles from all parts of the earth.

John 10:16 (NKJV)

“And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.”

The “other sheep” refers to those outside Israel — the Gentiles — whom Jesus planned to reach through His disciples.

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Old Testament prophecies confirming the same mission​

Isaiah 49:6 (NKJV)

“Indeed He says, ‘It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob… I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles, that You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.’”

This prophecy about the Messiah (Jesus) also includes His followers, who carried His light to the world.

Isaiah 42:6–7 (NKJV)

“I, the Lord, have called You in righteousness… I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people, as a light to the Gentiles, to open blind eyes…”

This shows God’s plan from the beginning: His salvation would reach every nation.

Psalm 22:27 (NKJV)

“All the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before You.”

This was fulfilled through the work of Jesus’ disciples after His resurrection.

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Jesus personally commanded His disciples — not just Paul — to preach to all nations. Peter publicly declared that God had chosen him to preach to the Gentiles, and God confirmed it by pouring out the Holy Spirit upon them. The other apostles followed this same mission, fulfilling the words of Jesus and the ancient prophecies that God’s salvation would reach the entire world.


SEE PART 2 it is the continuation since i exceeded 1000 characters

 

[LoveYeshua]

PART 2


Now to answer your question
"Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all"
is is not found in one simple verse but in a continuous uninterrupted speech Peter did and it definitely proves that Peter preached the cross to gentiles and was sent to all the world by his own mouth; Please read it all carefully to the end.

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Act 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

Act 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

Act 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Act 2:28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

This is the absolute proof you required, all of it in great detail with many verses to confirm, by a witness who saw it all and who lived it all, Peter.

 

[Doug]

I have already proven that the disciples preached the cross to the gentiles and Jews now I will prove for the 7232334 times to you that Jesus sent the disciples to ALL THEN WORLD to preach all Jesus did and say here it is;

Jesus clearly sent His disciples to all nations​

Matthew 28:19–20 (NKJV)


Here Jesus gives a direct command to the eleven apostles after His resurrection. This alone proves that their mission was not limited to Israel but extended to all the world.

Mark 16:15 (NKJV)


Again, the same order — the message is for everyone, not just Jews.

Luke 24:47 (NKJV)


Jesus confirms the plan: the message starts in Jerusalem but spreads to all nations.

John 17:18 (NKJV)


This shows Jesus sending His disciples into the whole world, just as the Father sent Him.

---

Peter personally confirmed he was chosen to preach to the Gentiles​

Acts 10:34–35 (NKJV)


This was Peter’s revelation when God sent him to Cornelius, a Roman centurion. He understood that salvation was no longer limited to Israel.

Acts 10:44–45 (NKJV)


Peter not only preached to Gentiles — God Himself confirmed Peter’s preaching by sending the Holy Spirit upon them.

Acts 15:7 (NKJV) – Peter before the council in Jerusalem:


Here Peter clearly says he was chosen by God to preach to the Gentiles. This is one of the most direct proofs in Scripture.

---

The other apostles also carried the message beyond Israel​

Matthew 24:14 (NKJV)


This was not a command to Paul, but to the same disciples Jesus was speaking to — showing their work was meant to reach all nations.

Acts 8:14–17 (NKJV)


Samaria was outside Jewish religious boundaries — yet Peter and John went and preached there, proving the expansion beyond the Jews.

Acts 8:25 (NKJV)


Again, showing that the apostles themselves preached outside Judea.

---

Jesus Himself had foretold this mission​

Matthew 8:11 (NKJV)


Here Jesus clearly foresaw the gathering of Gentiles from all parts of the earth.

John 10:16 (NKJV)


The “other sheep” refers to those outside Israel — the Gentiles — whom Jesus planned to reach through His disciples.

---

Old Testament prophecies confirming the same mission​

Isaiah 49:6 (NKJV)


This prophecy about the Messiah (Jesus) also includes His followers, who carried His light to the world.

Isaiah 42:6–7 (NKJV)


This shows God’s plan from the beginning: His salvation would reach every nation.

Psalm 22:27 (NKJV)


This was fulfilled through the work of Jesus’ disciples after His resurrection.

​

Jesus personally commanded His disciples — not just Paul — to preach to all nations. Peter publicly declared that God had chosen him to preach to the Gentiles, and God confirmed it by pouring out the Holy Spirit upon them. The other apostles followed this same mission, fulfilling the words of Jesus and the ancient prophecies that God’s salvation would reach the entire world.


SEE PART 2 it is the continuation since i exceeded 1000 characters

are you sending part 2?

 

[Doug]

PART 2


Now to answer your question
"Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all"
is is not found in one simple verse but in a continuous uninterrupted speech Peter did and it definitely proves that Peter preached the cross to gentiles and was sent to all the world by his own mouth; Please read it all carefully to the end.

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Act 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

Act 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

Act 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Act 2:28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

This is the absolute proof you required, all of it in great detail with many verses to confirm, by a witness who saw it all and who lived it all, Peter.

I still dont see part 2
Let me save you the trouble if I can......so far none of the verses you gave say that Peter and the disciples preached the cross for the salvation of all

 

[DJT_47]

There are those who say Peter and the disciples preached the cross. If you are in agreement with this please show me them preaching the cross for salvation for all in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or in Acts.

I contend they didn't so, care to prove your view, and prove me wrong?

Not sure what you're trying to imply or the basis for your claim citing the 4 gospels, since that makes no sense relative to the cross, but not so with Acts. And what do you mean "the cross for salvation"??

 

[LoveYeshua]

are you sending part 2?

post no 11

 

[LoveYeshua]

Now to answer your question
"Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all"
is is not found in one simple verse but in a continuous uninterrupted speech Peter did and it definitely proves that Peter preached the cross to gentiles and was sent to all the world by his own mouth; Please read it all carefully to the end.
Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Act 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
Act 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
Act 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act 2:28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
This is the absolute proof you required, all of it in great detail with many verses to confirm, by a witness who saw it all and who lived it all, Peter.

 

[Lambano]

The Apostle John affirms the Atonement in his first letter:

2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:1-2)

Peter preaches Christ's Resurrection as the Good News, not His death. If you take Paul's writings as a whole, Paul also considers Christ's Resurrection to be the more significant event, with the Atonement only getting a brief mention in Romans 3:25. Even 1 Corinthians 15:3 treats Christ's death as almost incidental while taking 5 verses to talk about the Resurrection.

 

[Doug]

I have already proven that the disciples preached the cross to the gentiles and Jews now I will prove for the 7232334 times to you that Jesus sent the disciples to ALL THEN WORLD to preach all Jesus did and say here it is;

Jesus clearly sent His disciples to all nations​

Matthew 28:19–20 (NKJV)


Here Jesus gives a direct command to the eleven apostles after His resurrection. This alone proves that their mission was not limited to Israel but extended to all the world.

Mark 16:15 (NKJV)


Again, the same order — the message is for everyone, not just Jews.

Luke 24:47 (NKJV)


Jesus confirms the plan: the message starts in Jerusalem but spreads to all nations.

John 17:18 (NKJV)


This shows Jesus sending His disciples into the whole world, just as the Father sent Him.

---

Peter personally confirmed he was chosen to preach to the Gentiles​

Acts 10:34–35 (NKJV)


This was Peter’s revelation when God sent him to Cornelius, a Roman centurion. He understood that salvation was no longer limited to Israel.

Acts 10:44–45 (NKJV)


Peter not only preached to Gentiles — God Himself confirmed Peter’s preaching by sending the Holy Spirit upon them.

Acts 15:7 (NKJV) – Peter before the council in Jerusalem:


Here Peter clearly says he was chosen by God to preach to the Gentiles. This is one of the most direct proofs in Scripture.

---

The other apostles also carried the message beyond Israel​

Matthew 24:14 (NKJV)


This was not a command to Paul, but to the same disciples Jesus was speaking to — showing their work was meant to reach all nations.

Acts 8:14–17 (NKJV)


Samaria was outside Jewish religious boundaries — yet Peter and John went and preached there, proving the expansion beyond the Jews.

Acts 8:25 (NKJV)


Again, showing that the apostles themselves preached outside Judea.

---

Jesus Himself had foretold this mission​

Matthew 8:11 (NKJV)


Here Jesus clearly foresaw the gathering of Gentiles from all parts of the earth.

John 10:16 (NKJV)


The “other sheep” refers to those outside Israel — the Gentiles — whom Jesus planned to reach through His disciples.

---

Old Testament prophecies confirming the same mission​

Isaiah 49:6 (NKJV)


This prophecy about the Messiah (Jesus) also includes His followers, who carried His light to the world.

Isaiah 42:6–7 (NKJV)


This shows God’s plan from the beginning: His salvation would reach every nation.

Psalm 22:27 (NKJV)


This was fulfilled through the work of Jesus’ disciples after His resurrection.

​

Jesus personally commanded His disciples — not just Paul — to preach to all nations. Peter publicly declared that God had chosen him to preach to the Gentiles, and God confirmed it by pouring out the Holy Spirit upon them. The other apostles followed this same mission, fulfilling the words of Jesus and the ancient prophecies that God’s salvation would reach the entire world.


SEE PART 2 it is the continuation since i exceeded 1000 characters

Sorry but none of these passages have Peter or the disciples preaching the cross for salvation for all

 

[rebuilder 454]

I still dont see part 2
Let me save you the trouble if I can......so far none of the verses you gave say that Peter and the disciples preached the cross for the salvation of all

"The cross"
"Born again "
"Believe on Jesus"
"Death burial and resurrection"
"Accept Jesus in your heart"

Nothing wrong with any of it.

"The cross" was ONLY ONE COMPONENT.

This hyperpauline spirit is a massive religious spirit.
It reminds me of church of Christ

"Unless we baptise you , you are lost"

 

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you forgot that paulinist above all else diminish the authority of Christ and his words. they put Paul before Christ everytime but they deny it.

Yep.
I have seen it firsthand.

It is appalling.