DO YOU THINK PETER AND THE APOSTLES PREACHED THE CROSS?

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Not sure what you're trying to imply or the basis for your claim citing the 4 gospels, since that makes no sense relative to the cross, but not so with Acts. And what do you mean "the cross for salvation"??
People say the cross was being preached in the 4 gospels

The cross for salvation includes

[1Co 15:3 KJV] 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;...................he died for our sins

[Rom 5:9 KJV] 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.................we have been justified by his blood without going thru Israel and without the law

[1Ti 2:6 KJV] 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time...........................the cross provided salvation for all not just Israel

[Rom 6:6 KJV] 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin...................we have been crucified with Christ
 

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PART 2


Now to answer your question
"Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all"
is is not found in one simple verse but in a continuous uninterrupted speech Peter did and it definitely proves that Peter preached the cross to gentiles and was sent to all the world by his own mouth; Please read it all carefully to the end.

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Act 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

Act 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

Act 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Act 2:28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

This is the absolute proof you required, all of it in great detail with many verses to confirm, by a witness who saw it all and who lived it all, Peter.
This is the absolute proof you required, all of it in great detail with many verses to confirm, by a witness who saw it all and who lived it all, Peter.
I am sorry these verses dont preach the cross for salvation
"Please give me just one verse where Peter or the disciples preached the cross for salvation for all"
is is not found in one simple verse
I can give you ONE verse where the cross is preached..........................[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
Peter is not preaching the cross for salvation but he is saying they were guilty of his crucifixion
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
This was the thrust of Peter's preaching...........he was preaching that Christ rose from the dead to keep the promise of the kingdom on earth.............Christ was raised to sit on David's throne in the kingdom
Paul preached Christ rose for our justification by the way
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Peter was only stating the fact that they crucified Christ not what it accomplished
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Peter didnt preach the cross here, he preached the water baptism of John for the forgiveness of sins plus that they would receuve the Holy Ghost
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
All that are afar off was scattered Israel
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Peter was exhorting them to repent and save themselves from the coming tribulation and wrath
 
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Not that these will change your mind, just adding a few to the thread for the lurkers

Paul said,

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first,and also to the Greek.

The gospel he preached as he writes of the same here which pertains to his death, burial and resurrection

1 Cr 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Cr 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Cr 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Cr 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

And again, showing the same is the power of salvation for everyone who believees, which includes both Jew and Greek

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Paul tells us what they preached

1 Cr 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1 Cr 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Context, if you go back up to verse 18, shows again, the preaching of the cross of Christ (the power of God)

1 Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Christ crucified

1 Cr 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Who glory in the cross of our Lord Jesys

Gal 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Jesus Christ on being lifted up

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up

Who would draw all men unto him

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Whosoever believeth in him here

John 3:14 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

First begotten of the dead, here it says,

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

The gospel would go out to all nations

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

As Paul said here

Acts 14:16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.

So he testified to both, Jews and Greeks

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Paul preaching the obedience to the faith among all nations for his name
 
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Not that these will change your mind, just adding a few to the thread for the lurkers

Paul said,

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first,and also to the Greek.

The gospel he preached as he writes of the same here which pertains to his death, burial and resurrection

1 Cr 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Cr 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Cr 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Cr 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

And again, showing the same is the power of salvation for everyone who believees, which includes both Jew and Greek

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Paul tells us what they preached

1 Cr 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1 Cr 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Context, if you go back up to verse 18, shows again, the preaching of the cross of Christ (the power of God)

1 Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Christ crucified

1 Cr 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Who glory in the cross of our Lord Jesys

Gal 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Jesus Christ on being lifted up

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up

Who would draw all men unto him

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Whosoever believeth in him here

John 3:14 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

First begotten of the dead, here it says,

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

The gospel would go out to all nations

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

As Paul said here

Acts 14:16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.

So he testified to both, Jews and Greeks

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Paul preaching the obedience to the faith among all nations for his name
Sorry but none of this pertains to what Peter and the disciples preached
 
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Sorry but none of this pertains to what Peter and the disciples preached

Your thread title is

DO YOU THINK PETER AND THE APOSTLES PREACHED THE CROSS?​


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Here is Peter, Christ crucified

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Peters doctrine, delivered to death, killing the prince of life, the resurrection of the dead

Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Being grieved concerning what he taught

Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.

Again here, they say to Peter concerning Jesus Christ's blood upon them the following

Acts 5:28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.

Which was what they were saying just before he was led away to crucified

Matt 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

Peters doctrine was understood by them to bring Jesus blood upon them because they had a part in the very gospel preached, as Paul says

Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

Peter obeying God and not men in that very place when Jesus told them

Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

Acts 5:27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,

Again, their doctrine is adressed here

Acts 5:28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Christ crucified

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Whom God raised up

Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

And they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus

They preached Christ crucified
 
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Heres another with Peter and the Gentiles

The Gentiles and Peter

Acts 10:5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:

Acts 10:6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

Acts 10:33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

Who shall tell them words, whereby they shall be saved, which were

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Christ crucified (whom they slew and hanged on a tree)

Acts 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

And who die, and God raised up the third day

Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

Commanded them to preach the gospel, which is just that

Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Peter preached Christ crucified and while he yet spake it says

Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
 

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I am sorry these verses dont preach the cross for salvation

I can give you ONE verse where the cross is preached..........................[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Peter is not preaching the cross for salvation but he is saying they were guilty of his crucifixion

This was the thrust of Peter's preaching...........he was preaching that Christ rose from the dead to keep the promise of the kingdom on earth.............Christ was raised to sit on David's throne in the kingdom
Paul preached Christ rose for our justification by the way

Peter was only stating the fact that they crucified Christ not what it accomplished

Peter didnt preach the cross here, he preached the water baptism of John for the forgiveness of sins plus that they would receuve the Holy Ghost

All that are afar off was scattered Israel

Peter was exhorting them to repent and save themselves from the coming tribulation and wrath
I am sorry Doug God has blinded you because of the hardness of your heart, I will pray for you.
 
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This is the cross of Christ

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

This is the cross of Christ

Acts 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

This is the cross of Christ

Acts 13:29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

This is the cross of Christ

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

The cross of Christ as it pertains to the Gentiles

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written,
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

The blood of Christ, resurrection from the dead

1 Peter.1
[1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
[2] Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead (Heb 12:24)

Of which salvation which testified beforehand of the sufferings of Christ

1 Peter 1
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.(See also Luke 24:25-27)

Redeemed by the blood of Christ, whom God raised from the dead

1Peter 1
[18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
[19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
 
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I am sorry Doug God has blinded you because of the hardness of your heart, I will pray for you.
Good I am off ignore, so that I can say, I cannot agree more with you here. I had thought Doug was sincerely wrong, but it appears more deliberate, likely from hardening his own heart too often to the truth.
 

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This is the cross of Christ

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

This is the cross of Christ

Acts 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

This is the cross of Christ

Acts 13:29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

This is the cross of Christ

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

The cross of Christ as it pertains to the Gentiles

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written,
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

The blood of Christ, resurrection from the dead

1 Peter.1
[1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
[2] Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead (Heb 12:24)

Of which salvation which testified beforehand of the sufferings of Christ

1 Peter 1
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.(See also Luke 24:25-27)

Redeemed by the blood of Christ, whom God raised from the dead

1Peter 1
[18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
[19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
Unfortunately Doug is not the only one that thinks only Paul preached about Jesus' crucifixion, to me this is absurd it is all over the synoptic gospels said by Jesus himself. As well, the apostles chosen by Christ obviously preached to Jews and gentiles alike since it is written clearly that Peter was chosen by God to preach to the gentiles ( Many deny this) it is foolish to think he did not.

What kind or church teaches these false doctrine to elevate paul above Christ?
 
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Unfortunately Doug is not the only one that thinks only Paul preached about Jesus' crucifixion, to me this is absurd it is all over the synoptic gospels said by Jesus himself. As well, the apostles chosen by Christ obviously preached to Jews and gentiles alike since it is written clearly that Peter was chosen by God to preach to the gentiles ( Many deny this) it is foolish to think he did not.

What kind or church teaches these false doctrine to elevate paul above Christ?

I am unfamiliar with all the crazy internet doctrines in their many forms
 

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Good I am off ignore, so that I can say, I cannot agree more with you here. I had thought Doug was sincerely wrong, but it appears more deliberate, likely from hardening his own heart too often to the truth.
I agree deliberate ! he asked me twice about part 2 in this thread and asked me to show it to him it was there clearly, easy to see. but I knew the outcome, I did my part and tried, Now it is in the hand of Christ who will judge Him according to HIS teachings. I have been trying for months to bring him back to Christ but nothing does it.

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Your thread title is

DO YOU THINK PETER AND THE APOSTLES PREACHED THE CROSS?​


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Here is Peter, Christ crucified

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Peters doctrine, delivered to death, killing the prince of life, the resurrection of the dead

Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Being grieved concerning what he taught

Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.

Again here, they say to Peter concerning Jesus Christ's blood upon them the following

Acts 5:28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.

Which was what they were saying just before he was led away to crucified

Matt 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

Peters doctrine was understood by them to bring Jesus blood upon them because they had a part in the very gospel preached, as Paul says

Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

Peter obeying God and not men in that very place when Jesus told them

Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

Acts 5:27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,

Again, their doctrine is adressed here

Acts 5:28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Christ crucified

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Whom God raised up

Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

And they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus

They preached Christ crucified
Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Sorry, you cited lots of verses, but none of them shows Peter and the eleven preaching the cross for salvation to all
I will address the most pertinent
now in regard to this verse, Peter was not preaching the cross he was merely stating the fact that they crucified him,
Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
The prophets foretold his suffering, death, and resurrection, but not what it accomplished. All thru the 4 gospels we read of Jesus fulfilling all that the prophets wrote.
Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
They did preach the resurrection. I never denied that.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
This is what was preached by the twelve. Israel had to believe on the name of Jesus, that he was Christ, the Son of God, not the cross
 

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Sorry, you cited lots of verses, but none of them shows Peter and the eleven preaching the cross for salvation to all
I will address the most pertinent
now in regard to this verse, Peter was not preaching the cross he was merely stating the fact that they crucified him,

The prophets foretold his suffering, death, and resurrection, but not what it accomplished. All thru the 4 gospels we read of Jesus fulfilling all that the prophets wrote.

They did preach the resurrection. I never denied that.

This is what was preached by the twelve. Israel had to believe on the name of Jesus, that he was Christ, the Son of God, not the cross
Well you have accomplished your goal.
Your goal being that Jesus does not save.
The "cross " has become the magic word from Paul.

Now we have you preaching salvation can only come from a sentence.

We had a Pauline guy that used to come to our Bible study, and he would preach the exact same thing that you are, and he would diminish, and muddy up Jesus, Peter, James, and John.
One day I asked him, "when you got saved. Did they give the 3 words "death area and resurrection" and include the word "cross" when you got saved?

He looked up into the sky as if he was pondering, and said ,"no none of that happened when I got Saved"
And everybody in there erupted in laughter at the hypocrisy of what the guy was all about.

When I got saved, in the church that I went to, I can't remember a single person that got saved. By an evangelist ,that said those 4 magic words. Everybody that I know that got saved, was not saved by some preacher or evangelist or at a church. Everybody I know got saved by a visitation by Jesus.
I think your just completely barking up the wrong tree.
BTW....when the hypocrisy of the pauline guy at our bible study was exposed, his reply was that he must not be saved......lol lol lol.
What a circus!!!!
 

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Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Sorry once again all your verses dont say anything about salvation by the cross.
Peter and the eleven did not preach the cross thay preached salvation through his name
 

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Hyperpauline doctrine is on a precipice.

About a half a notch more and it will be a full blown cult.

"Jesus does not save. Only Paul's words.
Paul's words should be in red"
 

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Sorry once again all your verses dont say anything about salvation by the cross.
Peter and the eleven did not preach the cross thay preached salvation through his name
News flash.
He ain't on that cross no more.

BTW...what did PAUL mean when he said "pick up your CROSS daily"

Under your strick legalistic doctrine, Paul had a LITTERAL CROSS.

AHEM...NEW NEWS FLASH....PAUL was using " the cross" as a METAPHOR !!!!!

UH KINDA LIKE SAVED BY THE CROSS = SAVED BY DEATH OF THE LAMB OF GOD????

YOU RECON?????
CROSS IS USED METAPHORICALLY?????
 

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I am sorry Doug God has blinded you because of the hardness of your heart, I will pray for you.
You are not reading what scripture says, but rather you are reading what you can only know by Paul into them.
 

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Well you have accomplished your goal.
Your goal being that Jesus does not save.
The "cross " has become the magic word from Paul.
My goal is to share rightly dividing the Bible. Thinking that the twelve preached the same gospel as Paul, that there is one gospel only , will lead to lack of assurance and mixing up the gospel.

As far as preaching the cross..................[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
 

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Hyperpauline doctrine is on a precipice.

About a half a notch more and it will be a full blown cult.

"Jesus does not save. Only Paul's words.
Paul's words should be in red"
The entire Bible should be in red since Jesus is THE WORD
 
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