Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

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You need to come to the living Christ, to be born of Him and receive His Spirit. Until then you won't understand the word of God. He is the oil for the lamp of His word that is a light unto our path. Lamps without oil cannot give light (understanding). Paul counted all that he had, education, knowledge, status, etc, as dung and loss that he might gain Christ.
You string together pretty phrases like “come to the living Christ” and “receive His Spirit,” but in the context of our discussion, they carry zero meaning—pure sophistry.
I could write the exact same about you.

I highly doubt you'll actually read this, but I'd still recommend checking out the book "War, Progress, and the End of History: Three Conversations, Including a Short Story of the Antichrist."
There are a few different English translations out there, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

In Vladimir Solovyov’s Three Conversations, the main and most powerful exposure of the heresy of “unconditional love for all” is not the Ballad of Delarue itself, but the entire third part — A Short Tale of the Antichrist, which follows immediately after it. It is there that Solovyov shows what such “love” actually leads to — the acceptance of the Antichrist.

Spoiler alert

The Antichrist comes with “love” — and everyone accepts him:
He spoke of peace, of brotherhood, of love for all people without distinction of faith, of forgiveness of offenses, of non-resistance to evil — and millions listened to him with rapture.”

The Antichrist does not demand repentance, does not speak of sin, does not mention God the Father — he says:
“Love one another — and you will be happy.”

The majority (Catholics, Protestants, liberal Orthodox) accept him because he:
- feeds the hungry,
- heals the sick,
- stops wars,
- speaks of “love for all.”

The minority (Elder John, Pope Peter II, Professor Pauli) reject him.

The climax: The Antichrist demands worship of HIMSELF.

The finale: The Antichrist is defeated — not by love, but by the NAME OF CHRIST.
When Elder John and Pope Peter do not curse the Antichrist but confess Christ — lightning from heaven strikes the Antichrist.

Solovyov’s conclusion:

Love without discernment of spirits is the door to the Antichrist.
True love is love in Christ, with discernment of good and evil.
 

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You string together pretty phrases like “come to the living Christ” and “receive His Spirit,” but in the context of our discussion, they carry zero meaning—pure sophistry.
I could write the exact same about you.

I highly doubt you'll actually read this, but I'd still recommend checking out the book "War, Progress, and the End of History: Three Conversations, Including a Short Story of the Antichrist."
There are a few different English translations out there, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

In Vladimir Solovyov’s Three Conversations, the main and most powerful exposure of the heresy of “unconditional love for all” is not the Ballad of Delarue itself, but the entire third part — A Short Tale of the Antichrist, which follows immediately after it. It is there that Solovyov shows what such “love” actually leads to — the acceptance of the Antichrist.

Spoiler alert

The Antichrist comes with “love” — and everyone accepts him:
He spoke of peace, of brotherhood, of love for all people without distinction of faith, of forgiveness of offenses, of non-resistance to evil — and millions listened to him with rapture.”

The Antichrist does not demand repentance, does not speak of sin, does not mention God the Father — he says:
“Love one another — and you will be happy.”

The majority (Catholics, Protestants, liberal Orthodox) accept him because he:
- feeds the hungry,
- heals the sick,
- stops wars,
- speaks of “love for all.”

The minority (Elder John, Pope Peter II, Professor Pauli) reject him.

The climax: The Antichrist demands worship of HIMSELF.

The finale: The Antichrist is defeated — not by love, but by the NAME OF CHRIST.
When Elder John and Pope Peter do not curse the Antichrist but confess Christ — lightning from heaven strikes the Antichrist.

Solovyov’s conclusion:

Love without discernment of spirits is the door to the Antichrist.
True love is love in Christ, with discernment of good and evil.
The love that we are to love others with is not talking about the love that comes from the flesh, but is love of God, ie, love which comes from His Spirit which doesn't compromise the truth. Same with regard to righteousness...there is human righteousness which falls short of God's glory, and there is the righteousness of God from His Spirit. Yes, as I said, we need to discern......and that needs to come from His Spirit too, if we are walking by faith and not by our own sight and perceptions or opinions.
 
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The love that we are to love others with is not talking about the love that comes from the flesh, but is love of God, ie, love which comes from His Spirit which doesn't compromise the truth. Same with regard to righteousness...there is human righteousness which falls short of God's glory, and there is the righteousness of God from His Spirit. Yes, as I said, we need to discern......and that needs to come from His Spirit too, if we are walking by faith and not by our own sight and perceptions or opinions.
We are to love others. Let God hate and condemn who He will. We are to love. We don't know the hearts of others. Someone with a surface full of bluster and anger and fear and whatever, may have a heart ready to open to God. We don't necessarily know where our Master will lead us, only that we follow Him.

Much love!
 
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In Vladimir Solovyov’s Three Conversations, the main and most powerful exposure of the heresy of “unconditional love for all” is not the Ballad of Delarue itself, but the entire third part — A Short Tale of the Antichrist, which follows immediately after it. It is there that Solovyov shows what such “love” actually leads to — the acceptance of the Antichrist.
True Christian love does not cause one to accept antichrist. Did Paul stand before Nero to condemn him? Or to show him the love of God in extending the Gospel invitation to him? We don't have a record of that event, but I think I've got a really good guess. I'm thinking that Paul did just as he always did, preach the Gospel, in love, in hope that it will be received.

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When the inquity has hit the full
and when the peoples are chanting peace n safety
Well , lets jus say we dont want any part of that group . For when the DOOR shuts
and IT WILL
all outside will wail .
And if persecutions and tribulations , prison time and being killed
Even some burned alive FOR THE FAITH
HOW MUCH SORER a punsihment awaits those of the dry tree.
IT is t rue that man can do and inflict much pain upon the saints
and even kill us , as they have o ften t hrough out history done so .
But something far worse awaits those who rejected CHRIST
FAR WORSE .
When the inquity has hit the full
Yepper = just like we SEE in Genesis
 
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You need to come to the living Christ, to be born of Him and receive His Spirit. Until then you won't understand the word of God. He is the oil for the lamp of His word that is a light unto our path. Lamps without oil cannot give light (understanding). Paul counted all that he had, education, knowledge, status, etc, as dung and loss that he might gain Christ.
Even after someone has been Born Again by the Spirit, they still need to then move UPward under the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

The disciples were already Born-Again by the time we reach Acts chapter 1

You do not need the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be Born-Again but you do need This to fully understand scripture whereby "no man need teach you."
 

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Even after someone has been Born Again by the Spirit, they still need to then move UPward under the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

The disciples were already Born-Again by the time we reach Acts chapter 1

You do not need the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be Born-Again but you do need This to fully understand scripture whereby "no man need teach you."
david when are and is this people gonna realize
THERE SIMPLY IS NO HOPE in man .
OH they can say we have no hope in men , YET THEY RUN to them and have put their hopes
Into such .
A spiders web has many many s trings indeed .
And it has spun each diverse string in a way to attract
But what not a one of them realize is , THEY THE FEAST of that spider and it will be their certain death .
It spun its web of many diverse strings and it is gathering all
right to its love web , its solution . And the blind cannot see this .
And sadly much of even christendom is in the BLIND .
IF this people will not return to learning the bible for themselves , THEY ARE NOT G ONNA MAKE IT david .
 

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Even after someone has been Born Again by the Spirit, they still need to then move UPward under the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

The disciples were already Born-Again by the time we reach Acts chapter 1

You do not need the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be Born-Again but you do need This to fully understand scripture whereby "no man need teach you."
We got people trying to teach this people on pre, mid , post
on diety and etc
AND YET they all HEADED RIGHT INTO that web my friend .
WE MUST PULL THEM FIRST out of such a web . The ecumenical whore rests not
and she has spun a web of many many strange and diverse strings
each string reaches each group in their own way . It has come to merge
and then to scourge . to merge the decieved
and in time convince them to scourge any and all who conformed not .
I do not type this out of fear for me . WE are appointed unto tribulation david .
I TYPE THIS OUT OF FEAR for THEIR SOULS . THEY gonna roast alive in the lake of fire . its their death i dont desire .
 
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Even after someone has been Born Again by the Spirit, they still need to then move UPward under the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

The disciples were already Born-Again by the time we reach Acts chapter 1

You do not need the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be Born-Again but you do need This to fully understand scripture whereby "no man need teach you."
I sound like a grave monster to many .
But you tell me . IF GOD said something THEN ITS NOT A LIE .
THERE IS SUCH A PLACE as the lake of fire , its eternal damnation and it is real .
Enough with this coffee and donuts god that seems to accept everyones view
and denies THE VERY WORDS OF GOD himself .
Someone gotta warn , SO warn i shall .
 
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We are to love others. Let God hate and condemn who He will. We are to love. We don't know the hearts of others. Someone with a surface full of bluster and anger and fear and whatever, may have a heart ready to open to God. We don't necessarily know where our Master will lead us, only that we follow Him.

Much love!
The WAY to God's Love is thru submission unto CHRIST and His words = any deviation from this is a deviation from God's Love

Does God call us to contradict Christ, the Apostles, the OT Prophets??? = Absolutely not!

But the man-made award winning popularity of false teachers, false doctrines and respect of persons calls you to love them more then loving the words of Christ.

JESUS Says: "You cannot serve two masters, for you will love the one and hate the other."
 

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The WAY to God's Love is thru submission unto CHRIST and His words = any deviation from this is a deviation from God's Love

Does God call us to contradict Christ, the Apostles, the OT Prophets??? = Absolutely not!

But the man-made award winning popularity of false teachers, false doctrines and respect of persons calls you to love them more then loving the words of Christ.

JESUS Says: "You cannot serve two masters, for you will love the one and hate the other."
take a good long look at their love my freind . cause you are ON to something indeed .
LOOK at who their love favors and shows favortism too and then look at who their love casts out and accuses .
Their love favors the sinner , the UNREPENTANT sinner , and if a man comes
to correct sin and brings the very words of GOD , THEY SURE DONT treat such with hugs of so called tolerance .
THEIR LOVE HAS THEM HATING GOD , HIS WORDS OF TRUTH and loving satans version of God and his love .
IT SHOWS favoritism . and that TO SIN and UNREPENTANT SINNERS .
two men can show up in full gay marriage dress apparrel
and this people says nothing
but if a man comes with a bible , OH THEY GOTS LOTS TO SAY THEN , LIKE , GET THE HECK OUTTA OF OUR CHURCH HATER .
This people cannot see their love has led them into deep and deeper hatred of THE WORDS OF GOD and of his SAINTS
that actually DO LOVE and thus THEY DO CORRECT and wont allow SIN upon them .
But today if one corrects sin , IF ONE LOVES , they call that hate and all day long just allow SIN and EVEN NOW UNBELIEF
upon this people , calling it love and tolerance . but as i said THEY DARN SURE Are not TOLERANT
towards the words of GOD . NO SIR they have CAST HIS WORDS behind them and sit under lies they beleive is love .
 

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The WAY to God's Love is thru submission unto CHRIST and His words = any deviation from this is a deviation from God's Love

Does God call us to contradict Christ, the Apostles, the OT Prophets??? = Absolutely not!

But the man-made award winning popularity of false teachers, false doctrines and respect of persons calls you to love them more then loving the words of Christ.

JESUS Says: "You cannot serve two masters, for you will love the one and hate the other."
YE cannot SERVE TWO MASTERS . exactly david . but this generation sure seems to think it can .
But AS USUAL JESUS WORDS PROVE THEM DEAD WRONG .
LOOK at what they love and LOOK at what they now hate .
 

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The WAY to God's Love is thru submission unto CHRIST and His words = any deviation from this is a deviation from God's Love

Does God call us to contradict Christ, the Apostles, the OT Prophets??? = Absolutely not!

But the man-made award winning popularity of false teachers, false doctrines and respect of persons calls you to love them more then loving the words of Christ.

JESUS Says: "You cannot serve two masters, for you will love the one and hate the other."
Ye cannot love sin and LOVE GOD . that is a fact as well .
for you will surely HATE THE GOD who inspired the bible that does expose that sin .
WHY ya think they been twisting it so much david . THEY HATE HIS WORDS
they love thier sin . again that is not an accusation , ITS A FACT .
 

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The WAY to God's Love is thru submission unto CHRIST and His words = any deviation from this is a deviation from God's Love

Does God call us to contradict Christ, the Apostles, the OT Prophets??? = Absolutely not!

But the man-made award winning popularity of false teachers, false doctrines and respect of persons calls you to love them more then loving the words of Christ.

JESUS Says: "You cannot serve two masters, for you will love the one and hate the other."
Someone asked this question the other day david .
How is the LOVE OF GOD expressed and seen . .
How .
SIMPLE .
IF YE LOVE ME YOU WOULD KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS .
HE who LOVES ME keeps my commandments , my sayings , my words .
But he who HATES ME keeps them not .
THAT IS HOW you will know WHO LOVETH GOD and HAS THE LOVE OF GOD shed upon their hearts
BY THE HOLY GHOST ,
verses the lip only ones who have NOT the SPIRIT and still love thier sin .
again this is but a simple truth my friend .
 

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Ye cannot love sin and LOVE GOD . that is a fact as well .
for you will surely HATE THE GOD who inspired the bible that does expose that sin .
WHY ya think they been twisting it so much david . THEY HATE HIS WORDS
they love thier sin . again that is not an accusation , ITS A FACT .
and manipulating God's words to prop up an idol is SIN = 1 John 2:21 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18

If only the christians would fear GOD to never violate His words!!! = there would not be the divisions that cause men/women to fear man
 
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david when are and is this people gonna realize
THERE SIMPLY IS NO HOPE in man .
OH they can say we have no hope in men , YET THEY RUN to them and have put their hopes
Into such .
A spiders web has many many s trings indeed .
And it has spun each diverse string in a way to attract
But what not a one of them realize is , THEY THE FEAST of that spider and it will be their certain death .
It spun its web of many diverse strings and it is gathering all
right to its love web , its solution . And the blind cannot see this .
And sadly much of even christendom is in the BLIND .
IF this people will not return to learning the bible for themselves , THEY ARE NOT G ONNA MAKE IT david .
Great analogy - ty
 

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The love that we are to love others with is not talking about the love that comes from the flesh, but is love of God, ie, love which comes from His Spirit which doesn't compromise the truth. Same with regard to righteousness...there is human righteousness which falls short of God's glory, and there is the righteousness of God from His Spirit. Yes, as I said, we need to discern......and that needs to come from His Spirit too, if we are walking by faith and not by our own sight and perceptions or opinions.
Yes indeed dear sister .
THE LOVE OF GOD , that cometh OF GOD
That lovely charity of GOD , WOULD REJOICE IN TRUTH , not deny and twist it .
He who loves ME keeps my commandments
my sayings , my words .
He who hates me KEEPS NOT my sayings . rather odd todays love sure seems to be Hate when we examine it .
Many follow a love that is actually HATE and rebellion towards GOD and HIS CHRIST .
but think its love . Nope . LOVE REJIOCES IN THE TRUTH , not in inquity .
 

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david when are and is this people gonna realize
THERE SIMPLY IS NO HOPE in man .
OH they can say we have no hope in men , YET THEY RUN to them and have put their hopes
Into such .
A spiders web has many many s trings indeed .
And it has spun each diverse string in a way to attract
But what not a one of them realize is , THEY THE FEAST of that spider and it will be their certain death .
It spun its web of many diverse strings and it is gathering all
right to its love web , its solution . And the blind cannot see this .
And sadly much of even christendom is in the BLIND .
IF this people will not return to learning the bible for themselves , THEY ARE NOT G ONNA MAKE IT david .
Proverbs - "the fear of man is a trap"
 

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and manipulating God's words to prop up an idol is SIN = 1 John 2:21 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18

If only the christians would fear GOD to never violate His words!!! = there would not be the divisions that cause men/women to fear man
for the fear of man IS A SNARE indeed .
To depart FROM EVIL is the fear of GOD .
Many have not the LOVE OF GOD SHED UPON THEIR HEARTS BY THE HOLY GHOST .
Many have not submitted UNTO GOD , unto HIS righteousness , unto HIS CHRIST .
they submitted unto an image of what MAN said was GOD and claimed as CHRIST .
But NOT THE SHEEP david . JESUS has the SHEEP david .