Do you really believe modern Israelis are direct descendants of those "lost" northern tribes scattered by Assyria 2,700 years ago?

[Chrysostomos]

You LOVE to argue and you're disingenuous in order to win debates. Your pride, ego, and vanity precede you as humility is not in your nature. You really need to work on yourself.

It's not "walking in the spirit" to mock and disparage brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

[soberxp]

It's not "walking in the spirit" to mock and disparage brothers and sisters in Christ.

It's not "walking in the spirit" to mock and disparage brothers and sisters in Christ.

Next one go on.

 

[Chrysostomos]

The Third Reich was definitely obsessed with "bloodlines".

So bloodlines only matter to the Third Reich and American Christian Zionists?

The Nazis were obsessed with the group calling themselves “Jews”—didn’t give a damn if they were the “lost tribes” or not.

So how does Nazi policy prove modern Israelis are actual descendants of the 10 northern tribes?
Or… what’s your point exactly?

 

[soberxp]

So bloodlines only matter to the Third Reich and American Christian Zionists?

The Nazis were obsessed with the group calling themselves “Jews”—didn’t give a damn if they were the “lost tribes” or not.

So how does Nazi policy prove modern Israelis are actual descendants of the 10 northern tribes?
Or… what’s your point exactly?

I think we have a chance to see real historical movies, and there's no point in arguing about it here, it's just imagination and reasoning.

 

[Chrysostomos]

I think we have a chance to see real historical movies, and there's no point in arguing about it here, it's just imagination and reasoning.

What are you even talking about?
What movies?
What’s there no point arguing about?

 

[soberxp]

What are you even talking about?
What movies?
What’s there no point arguing about?

Browse through real history like a movie.

 

[Chrysostomos]

I think I can understand that sentiment. The collapse of the Soviet Union stemmed from the utter corruption of its leaders—a trait inherent to those without faith. Though they claimed Marxism as their faith, in practice, no one knew exactly how to implement it, no one had seen the face of the kingdom, and no one believed utopia truly existed.

Yet if you ask me what to do, I would also say I do not know. For there are too many troubles in this world, and the only righteous way is to forgive, then wait for the new heaven and new earth created by God.

This world, like the former Soviet Union, is bound to collapse.

This story isn’t just about the USSR.

Argentina is one of the top Latin American countries for aliyah to Israel. Since 1948, over 45,000 Argentinians have made the move. Not “millions” like from the USSR (1+ million in the 1990s), but still a solid flow, especially during crises.

In 2023–2025, the stream is steady (~800–1,000 per year), but way smaller than from Ukraine or Russia.

There were “ancestry markets” in Argentina too during the tough times—but Israel takes "anyone with a Jewish" :-) no deep background checks.

Bottom line: People move to Israel from places where life sucks—economic collapse, political chaos, war, etc.
From the US? Hardly anyone wants to go.
Actually, more Israelis leave for the US than the other way around.
Only ~3,020 Americans made aliyah in 2023 (per Nefesh B’Nefesh).
Yet, 5,000–6,000 Israelis emigrated to the US that year (CBS/USCIS data)—more leaving than arriving.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Browse through real history like a movie.

What do you even mean by "Browse through real history like a movie."?
How is that even possible?

 

[NotTheRock]

It's not "walking in the spirit" to mock and disparage brothers and sisters in Christ.

Shouldn't you be kneeling at your shrine to Hitler right now?

 

[NotTheRock]

What do you even mean by "Browse through real history like a movie."?
How is that even possible?

It means to stop being a Nazi and turn over a new leaf.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Shouldn't you be kneeling at your shrine to Hitler right now?

No! Why would I do that?

Counter-question: Have you already sung your song to Antichrist today?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843827893098689006

IDF soldiers sing: “I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah.”
Lyrics:

“I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah.
Even if he tarries, I will wait for him every day.”

The song is based on the Hebrew text from Maimonides’ Thirteen Principles of Faith—a declaration of belief and certainty that the Messiah will definitely come, even if he’s delayed.

 

[Chrysostomos]

It means to stop being a Nazi and turn over a new leaf.

So have you already stopped being a Nazi and no longer support the Nazi regime in Israel?

 

[NotTheRock]

No! Why would I do that?

Counter-question: Have you already sung your song to Antichrist today?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843827893098689006

IDF soldiers sing: “I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah.”
Lyrics:

“I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah.
Even if he tarries, I will wait for him every day.”

The song is based on the Hebrew text from Maimonides’ Thirteen Principles of Faith—a declaration of belief and certainty that the Messiah will definitely come, even if he’s delayed.

I suspect that your purpose here is to attack Jews and to smear Christians as anti-Semites like you.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Historically, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, comprising ten tribes, was conquered by Assyria around 722 BCE. The Assyrians deported much of Israel's population to regions like Assyria, Mesopotamia, and Media, as part of their policy of scattering conquered peoples (2 Kings 17:24). This led to the "lost ten tribes," who largely assimilated into other nations, and the Northern Kingdom ceased to exist as a state.

After this, only the Southern Kingdom of Judah remained, primarily made up of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and some Levites. Judah was later conquered by Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar II around 587/586 BCE, and its people were taken into the Babylonian captivity. After Babylon fell to the Persians in 539 BCE, King Cyrus the Great issued a decree allowing the Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple (Ezra 1:1–4), which was completed around 516 BCE. From that point until the time of Jesus (circa 4 BCE–30 CE), the restored community was known as Judah, not Israel. It existed under Persian, Greek, and later Roman rule (from 63 BCE, when Pompey captured Jerusalem). In 70 CE, the Romans, under Titus, destroyed the Second Temple and Jerusalem, effectively ending Judah as a center of Jewish statehood until modern times.

Yet, in 1948, the founders of the modern state chose the name "Israel." This choice is significant because the descendants of the biblical Israel were dispersed long before the Second Temple period, and over 2,000 years have passed since the destruction of Judah in 70 CE. Some question whether modern Israelis are truly descendants of Abraham’s tribes, given the long history of dispersion and intermingling, especially for the "lost" tribes of Israel, whose assimilation began over 2,700 years ago.

The name "Israel" for the modern state might evoke the biblical unity of all twelve tribes, but historically and genealogically, claiming direct continuity with the ancient Israel is questionable.

There's no historical evidence (from Josephus, archaeology, or other sources) of organized, unassimilated communities from the ten northern tribes (the ones conquered by Assyria in 722 BCE) still existing as distinct groups in 1st-century Palestine. The northern territory had long been repopulated by Samaritans—a mixed group of Assyrian settlers and remnant Israelites who intermarried and developed their own syncretic faith.

the 1st century, "Israel" as a national or tribal entity from the united monarchy era (pre-922 BCE) no longer existed. The northern kingdom had vanished 800 years earlier, assimilated into Assyrian territories, leaving only the southern kingdom's remnants (Judeans, or Jews).
That's why descendants of Judah/Benjamin would historically have named a restored state "Judah," not "Israel"—the two were separate (and often rival) kingdoms in the Bible.

So, here's my direct question: Do you really believe modern Israelis are direct descendants of those "lost" northern tribes scattered by Assyria 2,700 years ago?

Hello Chrysostomos, here are other views: Do you really believe modern Israelis are direct descendants of those "lost" northern tribes scattered by Assyria 2,700 years ago? at DuckDuckGo

Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[NotTheRock]

So have you already stopped being a Nazi and no longer support the Nazi regime in Israel?

 

[Chrysostomos]

I suspect that your purpose here is to attack Jews and to smear Christians as anti-Semites like you.

You still haven’t proven that the group you’re talking about are Semites at all.

How can someone be an anti-Semite when the group you’re referring to aren’t even Semites?

 

[NotTheRock]

None of the tribes were lost as even James testifies:

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

This response answered the question but the OP conveniently ignored it because his intention is to attack Israel and its Jews, whom he demonstrably hates based on him comparing them to Nazis.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Hello Chrysostomos, here are other views: Do you really believe modern Israelis are direct descendants of those "lost" northern tribes scattered by Assyria 2,700 years ago? at DuckDuckGo

Love, Walter and Debbie

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[WalterandDebbie]

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[NotTheRock]

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He is calling Israeli Jews "Nazis". He should be shunned and removed from our group of Christians who follow Jesus. He is NOT one of us.