How does the resurrection of the righteous and the wicked on the last day work with Premillennialism?

[Scott Downey]

That 1000 reign is not on this earth, it is in heaven where Christ is seated at God's right hand.
Believers in Christ are living in Christ, and are actually raised with Christ right now, and seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 3
If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.

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Ephesians 2
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

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You are raised with Christ, that means you are a part of the first resurrection which is Christ's and where He is you also are.
We know Christ is in heaven and must sit there at the Father's right hand and reign till His last enemy is destroyed, DEATH.
This below also shows the order of resurrection, afterwards comes the END of this world, and we get a new earth.
The NEW EARTH is one where God dwells 'bodily' with His people, and is never this 'old earth' which is doomed to a fiery destruction'
Christ will not dwell again on this 'current old earth', and none of those who are Christ's will remain flesh and blood, marry, have babies.
All of that is passing away. the former thins will pass away when Christ returns.

1 Corinthians 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Scott Downey]

Rev 20, believing this is an earthly kingdom of 1000 years of flesh and blood creatures, is completely contrary to the teachings of Christ and His apostles doctrines.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Believers fit the above, Christ is ruling over all in Heaven, that is where this takes place, even right now.

Much of Revelation is written in symbolic language, 1000 years is symbolic of a long period of time unknown to us until the second coming,
when everything shall be changed.

Believers are raised together with Christ
Believers are blessed and holy
Believers do not worship the dragon, Satan, they serve God.
Believers all of them, have their part in His first resurrection as they are hid with Christ in God, right now today.
Believers life is hid with Christ in God.
Believers are not subject to the second death
Believers are priests of God and Christ
Believers overcome the world by their faith, are crowned and reign with Him on His throne which is in Heaven where He now reigns.

And they will not go out of the city, but remain with Him in the New Jerusalem which only appears on the NEW EARTH, never this old original earth.

Revelation 3:12
He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.

Revelation 2:7
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.” ’

Revelation 2:11
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” ’

Revelation 2:17
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.” ’

Revelation 2:26
And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—

Revelation 3:5
He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

Revelation 3:21
To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

 

[Scott Downey]

Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 21:6-8 - New King James Version

And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable...

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6 And He said to me, “It[a] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes [b]shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, [c]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

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If you are not overcoming the world by your faith, then you will not inherit the kingdom of God as you are not of the Father.

1 John 5:4
For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

 

[TrevorHL]

Greetings Scott Downey,

That 1000 reign is not on this earth, it is in heaven where Christ is seated at God's right hand.

Revelation 5:9–10 (KJV): 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 20:6 (KJV): Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Taken]

John 5:28
28Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

when the resurrection happens, it consists of both the good and the bad of course, but both of these are to occur on the last day

John 6:39-40
39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 6:44
44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:54
54Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

John 11:24
24Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.”

John 12:48
48The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

So here we have clear cut statements of both the ones who accept Jesus and reject Jesus, are both raised on the last day, so are there 2 last days? is there a pre-mill last day where the good are raised, and a post-mill last day where the bad are raised?

Daniel says they both happen at the same time

2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above;a and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. Dan 12:2

Paul said when the mortal puts on immortality the last enemy is do be defeated, this of course must be the last day, which is the last trumpet.

24Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

54When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:


“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
55“O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”


if you still have 1000 years to go, and the defeat of the dragon in the lake of fire, then the end has not come yet, because you STILL HAVE ENEMIES!


Both are to rise on the last day, there cannot be 1000 year gap between the resurrection of the good and bad. you cannot have the last enemy be defeated 1000 years before the dragon is defeated, you cannot have multiple last days.

Resurrection MEANING;
Experiencing Life and Death and Returning to Life.
There are series of Resurrections…in Scripture….

* Several people IN Scripture, Mortally Died, and were resurrected, and Resumed their Mortal Life.
( Still cases of THAT occurring to this day. )
* Jesus’ Body was witnessed Dying, Dead, Buried, Then Witnessed Alive Again, Then witnessed, Rising up to The clouds of heaven, out of sight of men, witnesses, on Earth.
Some die, return to mortal Life;
Some die, return with spiritual Life;
Some die, return with mortal and spiritual Life.

Judgement DAY, is the LAST DAY, of Mortal “human existence”…
* The “judgement / sentencing”… on the Last DAY, IS the Last DAY…
* Particular Mortals will be Raised up and sentenced to Eternal Immortal Spiritual Life…
And
* Particular Mortals will be Raised up to be Sentenced to be Dead without mortal Life or Eternal Immortal Life and Remembered no more.


Beginning Life is A Day of an individuals Experience.
Death is The Last Day of an individuals Life experience.
An individuals Resurrection is an individuals Day of Experiencing Life Again.

Alive living individuals receive Judgements throughout their living lives.

Whether or not an individual has been Dead, Then Resurrected, or Not, on the Last Day…

ALL Shall be Present Before the Lord God, on the Final Judgement DAY…(whether or not having experienced a previous resurrection).

The LAST DAY… is the END of ALL Mortal Life.

It is reasonable to SEE and acknowledge… millions of mortals have been Born, Have Died…
After the Last Day, NO, NONE, ZIP mortals shall exist…THUS thereafter NO, NONE, ZIP, “resurrections” Shall ever “Again” occur.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Scott Downey]

Greetings Scott Downey,

Revelation 5:9–10 (KJV): 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 20:6 (KJV): Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Kind regards
Trevor

That reign is only possible on the NEW earth, because of what happens when Christ returns which 2 Peter 3 says and also Jesus tells us at His return that heaven and earth will pass away.
The old earth, this one, replaced by the new earth.

The context is the coming of Christ.

Luke 21

The Coming of the Son of Man​

25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

The Parable of the Fig Tree​

29 Then He spoke to them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near. 31 So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. 32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.


Matthew 24:34-36
New King James Version
34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

No One Knows the Day or Hour
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.


Mark 13:30-32
New King James Version
30 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

No One Knows the Day or Hour
32 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
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Honestly, who you going to believe?

Scripture, Jesus's words, or what a man says which is different from scripture even though making the claim they are scriptural.

That is the mark of deceivers and false teaching. Plenteous examples of that going around.

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[Scott Downey]

After the judgment by Christ of the world, at His appearing, is when God gives us the new earth

When Christ returns, he raises all the dead, they are judged both the living and the dead when He comes on the LAST DAY

These things are recorded in the scripture, and if a doctrine goes against what scriptures say, reject such doctrine as error.
You may not like what scripture actually does say, but you got to believe what it says, and Jesus is clear on what He says., so if you don't believe what He says, what are you believing in then?

2 Timothy 4
New King James Version

4 I charge you [a]therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:

John 6:40
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

John 12:48
He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

Revelation 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

 

[Ronald Nolette]

John 5:28
28Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

when the resurrection happens, it consists of both the good and the bad of course, but both of these are to occur on the last day

John 6:39-40
39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 6:44
44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:54
54Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

John 11:24
24Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.”

John 12:48
48The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

So here we have clear cut statements of both the ones who accept Jesus and reject Jesus, are both raised on the last day, so are there 2 last days? is there a pre-mill last day where the good are raised, and a post-mill last day where the bad are raised?

Daniel says they both happen at the same time

2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above;a and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. Dan 12:2

Paul said when the mortal puts on immortality the last enemy is do be defeated, this of course must be the last day, which is the last trumpet.

24Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

54When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:


“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
55“O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”


if you still have 1000 years to go, and the defeat of the dragon in the lake of fire, then the end has not come yet, because you STILL HAVE ENEMIES!


Both are to rise on the last day, there cannot be 1000 year gap between the resurrection of the good and bad. you cannot have the last enemy be defeated 1000 years before the dragon is defeated, you cannot have multiple last days.

If you recognized the different resurrections in Scripture and the different dispensations you would see it fits very well.

Day also was used for a time period as well as a single day- context determines.

And Rev. 20 clearly shows that tribulation saints are resurrected followed 1000 years later by the resurrection of all the lost.

 

[Scott Downey]

If you recognized the different resurrections in Scripture and the different dispensations you would see it fits very well.

Day also was used for a time period as well as a single day- context determines.

And Rev. 20 clearly shows that tribulation saints are resurrected followed 1000 years later by the resurrection of all the lost.

No, it does not. Christ is the first ressurection. We are hidden in Him, we are raised together with Christ, that is the 1000 year reign, it is not our own resurrection, which only occurs at the second coming when Christ raises all the dead, the just and the unjust.

Simultaneous resurrection of all people!
Jesus narrows this time frame to an hour, even less than a day.
ALL the dead hear Him and come forth, there is no 1000 years delay or 2 resurrections, that is a lie.

John 5
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No, it does not. Christ is the first ressurection. We are hidden in Him, we are raised together with Christ, that is the 1000 year reign, it is not our own resurrection, which only occurs at the second coming when Christ raises all the dead, the just and the unjust.

Simultaneous resurrection of all people!
Jesus narrows this time frame to an hour, even less than a day.
ALL the dead hear Him and come forth, there is no 1000 years delay or 2 resurrections, that is a lie.

John 5
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

Sorry but:

Revelation 20

King James Version

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20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The bible clearly and explicitly shows that after Jesus' return there are 2 resurrections of the dead, seperated by 1000 years. That is what the Bible says.

 

[Doug]

John 5:28
28Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

when the resurrection happens, it consists of both the good and the bad of course, but both of these are to occur on the last day

John 6:39-40
39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 6:44
44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:54
54Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

John 11:24
24Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.”

John 12:48
48The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

So here we have clear cut statements of both the ones who accept Jesus and reject Jesus, are both raised on the last day, so are there 2 last days? is there a pre-mill last day where the good are raised, and a post-mill last day where the bad are raised?

Daniel says they both happen at the same time

2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above;a and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. Dan 12:2

Paul said when the mortal puts on immortality the last enemy is do be defeated, this of course must be the last day, which is the last trumpet.

24Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

54When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:


“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
55“O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”


if you still have 1000 years to go, and the defeat of the dragon in the lake of fire, then the end has not come yet, because you STILL HAVE ENEMIES!


Both are to rise on the last day, there cannot be 1000 year gap between the resurrection of the good and bad. you cannot have the last enemy be defeated 1000 years before the dragon is defeated, you cannot have multiple last days.

You said...................."John 5:28
28Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

when the resurrection happens, it consists of both the good and the bad of course, but both of these are to occur on the last day".................look carefully at the words in John 5:28. Jesus is saying there are two resurrections a resurrection of life and a resurrection of judgement. That there are two resurrections is supported here in Revelation.......................[Rev 20:4, 6 KJV] 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. ... 6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years..............the faithful believing Israel will be resurrected and reign with Christ a thousand years in the kingdom. This is the first resurrection.........................[Rev 20:5 KJV] 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection......................this is the second resurrection of judgement. It is not on the same day but occurs at the end of the thousand years.

The last day only refers to the resurrection of the righteous to life at the end of the tribulation when Christ establishes the kingdom................[Jhn 6:40 KJV] 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day..

 

[Scott Downey]

You said...................."John 5:28
28Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

when the resurrection happens, it consists of both the good and the bad of course, but both of these are to occur on the last day".................look carefully at the words in John 5:28. Jesus is saying there are two resurrections a resurrection of life and a resurrection of judgement. That there are two resurrections is supported here in Revelation.......................[Rev 20:4, 6 KJV] 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. ... 6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years..............the faithful believing Israel will be resurrected and reign with Christ a thousand years in the kingdom. This is the first resurrection.........................[Rev 20:5 KJV] 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection......................this is the second resurrection of judgement. It is not on the same day but occurs at the end of the thousand years.

The last day only refers to the resurrection of the righteous to life at the end of the tribulation when Christ establishes the kingdom................[Jhn 6:40 KJV] 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day..

Don't forget this one though!

John 12:48
He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

People have to be resurrected to be judged.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

...when the resurrection happens, it consists of both the good and the bad of course, but both of these are to occur on the last day...

Precious friend, for your prayerful / Careful 'resurrections' consideration

(see rules # 2 and 6 Bible study Rules):​

With God's Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, we find The Following:

God's Previous Context of:

"Prophecy/Law" { earthly } Christ And The Twelve, gospel of the kingdom,

Israel [Twelve tribes] prominent! {past/future}​

Prophecy spoken By God's prophets “since the world began”

(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 AV)​

About resurrection(s):

Did Job believe in a bodily resurrection?:

"For I know that my Redeemer Liveth, and that He Shall Stand at the latter​

day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body,​

yet in my flesh shall I see God: " (Job 19:25-26 AV)​

How about King David?:

"Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise.​

Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs,​

and the earth shall cast out the dead." (Isaiah 26:19 AV)​

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According to the prophet Daniel?:

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some​

to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."​

(Daniel 12:2 AV)​

​

Question is: Are there not two possibilities for 'timing'?:​

a) both At The Same Time?​

b) Two At Different Times?​

God's prophet Ezekiel?:

"And ye shall know that I AM the LORD, when I have opened your graves,​

O My people, and brought you up out of your graves, And shall put My Spirit​

in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye​

know that I The LORD have Spoken it, and Performed it, Saith The LORD."​

(Ezekiel 37:13-14 AV)​

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Christ, on earth Taught:

"And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou​

shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just." (Luke 14:14 AV)​

​

Does Christ Imply that "those some asleep in the dust will ​

'awake to everlasting life' At "the resurrection of 'the just'" = One resurrection?​

Secondarily Implying there is Also "the resurrection of the unjust"? = ​

​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Two resurrections?​

​

"But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection​

from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither can they die any​

more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the​

children of the resurrection." (Luke 20:35-36 AV)​

​

Did not Christ Separate The One "resurrection of the just" ​

From the Other "resurrection of the unjust"? Yes?​

​

There is an "hour coming, and now is"?:

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall​

hear The Voice of The SON of God: and they that hear shall live....Marvel not at this:​

for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His Voice, And​

shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that​

have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." (John 5:25, 5:28-29 AV)​

​

A New thought?: Christ Says both resurrections "happen in the Same 'hour'?​

Is "this hour" the same as "the last day"?"​

​

"And This is the Father’s Will Which Hath Sent Me, that of all which He hath given​

Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the​

Will of Him That Sent Me, that every one which seeth The SON, and believeth on Him,​

may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:39-40 AV)​

​

Christ Repeating: "One resurrection of the just" on "the last day", Correct?

​

"Martha saith unto Him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the​

last day. Jesus Said unto her, I AM The Resurrection, and The Life: he that believeth​

in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in​

Me shall never die. Believest thou This?" (John 11:24-26 AV)​

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Martha believes "just Lazarus will rise on the last day" = Should we?​

​

"And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there​

shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust." (Acts 24:15 AV)​

.................................only one Or Two?​

Past Prophecy

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" (online)

Current Mystery...

to be continued...

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Part II resurrections

...Previously: Past Prophecy

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" (online)

Current Mystery

God's Current Context of His "Revelation" To One apostle, Paul:

"Mystery/Grace!" { Heavenly! } Risen And Glorified Christ, Gospel Of Grace,
Jew And Gentile "Equal!" In The One Body Of CHRIST, By One Baptism,
The One Holy Spirit's Operation!!

The Body Chosen In Christ "before the world began," But “kept secret
since the world began!” (Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 AV) Has Only:

One Resurrection:

"For The Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of​

the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead In Christ shall rise first:​

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the​

clouds, to meet The Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with The Lord."​

(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 AV)​

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall​

sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For​

this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."​

(1 Corinthians 15:52-53 AV)​

Current Mystery

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" (online)

Future Prophecy

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw​

the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for The Word Of God,​

and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark​

upon their foreheads, or in their hands;...​

The First 'Prophesied ' "resurrection ( = ' they lived '? ) of the just"?:

...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead ​

lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."​

(Revelation 20:4-5 AV)​

​

There is no need to conform God's Plain and Clear Words into an interpretation:

"only one resurrection in one 24-hour day", Correct?​

Because God Helps us Make Sense of "The Last Day"?:

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is With The Lord​

as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (2 Peter 3:8 AV)​

Thus, God's "One Last Day" Perfectly Harmonizes With man's 'conception of 1000 years of time',
Correct?

Further:

One resurrection in one 24-hour 'day' makes no Sense Since "the heavens and​

the earth" did Not "flee From Christ's (God's) Face Until This Second 'Prophesied' ​

"resurrection of the unjust" which was not Until a thousand years after:​

​

"the just lived and reigned on the earth":​

​

"And I saw A Great White Throne, and Him That Sat On It, from Whose Face the earth​

and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead,​

small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was​

opened, which is the book of life:​

​

and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according​

to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered​

up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.​

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.​

​

This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast​

into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:11-15 AV)​

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Conclusion: Thus we find:

One 'Mystery' resurrection of The Body Of Christ ​

and​

Two 'Prophesied' resurrections of "the just Of Israel, and 'the unjust' of All ages​

= 3, Correct?​

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Please Be Very Richly Encouraged And Edified
In Christ, and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

Amen.



Is All of The Body Of Christ?:
Looking, ( Patiently ) waiting, and watching for: God's Great GRACE Departure!

Amen.

 

[GodsGrace]

Man, you are so far off the trac, no wonder you're so confused. First off, I'm not beholdin to any doctroine except the word of God as it is written - PERIOD!

Writer...
@Scott Downey has given you a lot of scripture.
You just desire to believe what you've been taught instead of what the word says.

When we stop believing what Jesus teaches,,,Christianity will be in trouble.
Exchanging the tradition of men the word of God.

One last day,
One resurrection,
One judgement.

 

[Writer]

Writer...
@Scott Downey has given you a lot of scripture.
You just desire to believe what you've been taught instead of what the word says.

When we stop believing what Jesus teaches,,,Christianity will be in trouble.
Exchanging the tradition of men the word of God.

One last day,
One resurrection,
One judgement.

Scott indeed has given me a lot of scripture, all of which I have examined many, many times throughout my walk with Jesus. I don't deny any of what he is saying, nor have I given the impression that I don't appreciate it. He is angry because he belives that I mocked the old testament, and that I mocked the prophets, and that I mocked the Jewish race. I did none of that. He has a right to vent against the truth if he chooses by thrashing me with his multitude of scriptures.

The fact remains, the great tribulation has not occured, and whether Jesus was talking to His own disciples at the time He first mentioned it regarding their generational tribulation, or not, if we don't apply Jesus words to our time, it is we in this generation who will fail to come to terms to the times we are facing.

 

[GodsGrace]

Scott indeed has given me a lot of scripture, all of which I have examined many, many times throughout my walk with Jesus. I don't deny any of what he is saying, nor have I given the impression that I don't appreciate it. He is angry because he belives that I mocked the old testament, and that I mocked the prophets, and that I mocked the Jewish race. I did none of that. He has a right to vent against the truth if he chooses by thrashing me with his multitude of scriptures.

The fact remains, the great tribulation has not occured, and whether Jesus was talking to His own disciples at the time He first mentioned it regarding their generational tribulation, or not, if we don't apply Jesus words to our time, it is we in this generation who will fail to come to terms to the times we are facing.

The great tribulation has not occured.
I believe it will one day.
I also believe there will be one resurrection and not two.
I also believe there will be no rapture.
And Jesus is coming back one time...not two - at the end.

I find it disconcerting that we Christians do not agree, we should.

Acts 24:15-16
14 "But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets;
15 having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.


How many resurrections are here,,,,this is Jesus speaking: (I see only one).


John 5:28-29
28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

 

[Scott Downey]

Scott indeed has given me a lot of scripture, all of which I have examined many, many times throughout my walk with Jesus. I don't deny any of what he is saying, nor have I given the impression that I don't appreciate it. He is angry because he belives that I mocked the old testament, and that I mocked the prophets, and that I mocked the Jewish race. I did none of that. He has a right to vent against the truth if he chooses by thrashing me with his multitude of scriptures.

The fact remains, the great tribulation has not occured, and whether Jesus was talking to His own disciples at the time He first mentioned it regarding their generational tribulation, or not, if we don't apply Jesus words to our time, it is we in this generation who will fail to come to terms to the times we are facing.

I am not angry, don't get me wrong. I post because I want people to see what the scripture actually says, not what men say about it.
And if anyone is angry the word tells us to let it go.
People do get angry, but you are not supposed to hold on to that.

Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 4:25-27 - New King James Version

Do Not Grieve the Spirit - Therefore, putting away lying, “Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor,” for we are members of one another. “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil.

www.biblegateway.com

Do Not Grieve the Spirit
25 Therefore, putting away lying, “Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor,” for we are members of one another.

26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath,

27 nor give place to the devil.

 

[Doug]

I want people to see what the scripture actually says, not what men say about it.

Not being argumentative but God set teachers in the church, so we do have to consider what is taught. Of course it has to align with scripture

 

[Writer]

I am not angry, don't get me wrong. I post because I want people to see what the scripture actually says, not what men say about it.
And if anyone is angry the word tells us to let it go.
People do get angry, but you are not supposed to hold on to that.

Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 4:25-27 - New King James Version

Do Not Grieve the Spirit - Therefore, putting away lying, “Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor,” for we are members of one another. “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil.

www.biblegateway.com

Do Not Grieve the Spirit
25 Therefore, putting away lying, “Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor,” for we are members of one another.

26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath,

27 nor give place to the devil.

All good, be blessed brother