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If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
 
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"Christians" who love Israel and "love" children.​

In NO-WAY does this post support sexual sin.
i have no affiliation nor affection towards Robert Morris = never heard of him or listened to him.

Always remember that apart from rape or powerful coercion, it takes two to tangle!!!

Always examine all evidence and remember - people lie or adjust the facts to their favor.

Questions to ask
#1 - How long was the liaison active?
#2 - What were the ages of the 'participants'?
#3 - Was the young woman forced?
#4 - Was she coerced? If, 'yes', in what way/manner
#5 - Did she confide in any one that she was being forced or coerced??? = If 'yes' = when and to whom
#5 - Why did she wait 40 years to come forward?
#6 - MANY young woman DESIRE older men and are active participants which is a TRAP for all men and women.
#7 - When i was 20 years old(unsaved), i turned away many a young woman who desired my muscular & handsome physique

#8 - What if i enjoyed that "pleasure of sin for the moment" with the willing girl and now 40 years later she cries "assault"

The worst pediophiles are Epstein, Clintons, Bush, Trump and the MANY politicians, judges, Hollywood, law enforcement, RELIGIOUS
leaders and parents/aunts/uncles/relatives

There is nothing hidden that will not be brought to and exposed by the LIGHT
 

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Robert Morris himself admitted to the crime—he pleaded guilty to sexually abusing a 12-year-old girl over four years. That’s not up for debate. It’s a fact.

Your questions and assumptions, unfortunately, ignore this fact and can be perceived as an attempt to justify or minimize the seriousness of the crime.

Let’s be clear: a 12-year-old cannot consent, period. The idea that it “takes two to tangle” doesn’t apply here. This was a child, not a willing participant. The length of the abuse, the age difference, and the power dynamics all point to coercion, whether explicit or implicit.

Victims often wait years to come forward due to shame, fear, or lack of support, and that’s not uncommon. Your personal anecdotes about turning away women don’t relate to a case involving a child. And comparing this to other public figures doesn’t excuse Morris’s actions—it only highlights a broader problem that needs addressing.
 

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That aint the mindset of the apostels . What i say to one i say to all .
WHEN JESUS returns is gonna be to lay down wrath against every unbeleiving jew and gentile this world has .
ITS a one time event . Now i see . You probably have heeded men of dispensationalism and perhaps pre trib .
Well boy did they work a work on us all my friend .
WHEN JESUS RETURNS its to lay down THE WRATH OF GOD
against , the beast , fp and etc , all that beleived not the truth that they might be saved
and thus were sent a strong ecumenical delusion to beleive a lie .
Many jews just as many gentiles will wail on that day . as for the sheep
WE FLYING HOME baby , forever with THE LORD . And pard that is the one day i long for
and look forwards too above all . EVEN SO COME LORD JESUS . this world aint my home .
TILL THEN , ITS JESUS PREACHING TIME .
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David in NJ

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Robert Morris himself admitted to the crime—he pleaded guilty to sexually abusing a 12-year-old girl over four years. That’s not up for debate. It’s a fact.

Your questions and assumptions, unfortunately, ignore this fact and can be perceived as an attempt to justify or minimize the seriousness of the crime.

Let’s be clear: a 12-year-old cannot consent, period. The idea that it “takes two to tangle” doesn’t apply here. This was a child, not a willing participant. The length of the abuse, the age difference, and the power dynamics all point to coercion, whether explicit or implicit.

Your personal anecdotes about turning away women don’t relate to a case involving a child. And comparing this to other public figures doesn’t excuse Morris’s actions—it only highlights a broader problem that needs addressing.
Let’s be clear: a 12-year-old cannot consent, period. The idea that it “takes two to tangle” doesn’t apply here.
It always takes two to tango EXCEPT in rape and forced coercion.

There was a young girl who consented in the Garden to sin and then she brought that sin to her husband = DEATH

i do not know the facts with the Roberts case = never read up on it

When someone pleads guilty it usually is a, means and way, to lesser charges.

AGREE = "Victims often wait years to come forward due to shame, fear, or lack of support, and that’s not uncommon."

FYI - GOD commanded for girls/women to "CRY OUT" when being raped = BEST WAY to KNOW = Deuteronomy ch22

But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, 21then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father’s house. So you shall [d]put away the evil from among you.

“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.

25“But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. 26But you shall do nothing to the young woman; there is in the young woman no sin deserving of death, for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter. 27For he found her in the countryside, and the betrothed young woman cried out, but there was no one to save her.
 

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Let’s be clear: a 12-year-old cannot consent, period. The idea that it “takes two to tangle” doesn’t apply here.

Let's be CLEAR = many 12 year old girls want to TANGO = especially in today's environment

A young 12 year old girl was found murdered = She loved sex and craved it so much that she would meet up(repeat = she would meet up) with anonymous men on the internet until she met up with the wrong guy.

She was from a financially well-off family so poverty had zero impact on
her decisions.

It always takes 'two-2-tango' (except in rape/forced coercion) as SIN is always present upon boys and girls.

and GOD knows the hearts - Deuteronomy 22:23-24
“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
 

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Let's be CLEAR = many 12 year old girls want to TANGO = especially in today's environment

A young 12 year old girl was found murdered = She loved sex and craved it so much that she would meet up(repeat = she would meet up) with anonymous men on the internet until she met up with the wrong guy.

She was from a financially well-off family so poverty had zero impact on
her decisions.

It always takes 'two-2-tango' (except in rape/forced coercion) as SIN is always present upon boys and girls.

and GOD knows the hearts - Deuteronomy 22:23-24
“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
Did you know the price of virgins was twice as much usually?
 

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No surprise there.. Without your twisted take on it, you Zionists would have nothing left to say. But Romans 11 isn’t proof that modern Israelis are tied to the biblical northern kingdom of Israel. You just parrot a distorted interpretation of Romans 11, with zero evidence, arguments, or facts, pretending it somehow applies to today’s state of Israel and its citizens.

God made an eternal covenant with Abraham.

If you know your Bible then you know how things will end.

I am looking forward to that, Israel repenting, accepting Christ.

Zach 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.

What's happening since 1948 (Israel never had peace) is a spiritual battle, the devil knows his time is short.

Have some faith.
 

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I’m frankly astonished that you’re citing the Bible to justify or contextualize a case involving the sexual abuse of a 12-year-old girl. This is not only deeply troubling but also entirely inappropriate.
It always takes two to tango EXCEPT in rape and forced coercion.
You seem to miss the point entirely.
Robert Morris admitted to abusing a 12-year-old girl.
A 12-year-old cannot consent under any circumstances, legally or morally. Your reference to the Garden of Eden is irrelevant and misleading. The story of Eve involves theological interpretations of sin, not the legal or ethical framework for child sexual abuse.
"When someone pleads guilty it usually is a means and way to lesser charges."
While plea deals are common, they don’t negate the gravity of the crime. Morris pleaded guilty to five counts of lewd acts with a child, and the fact remains that he admitted to the abuse. This isn’t about lesser charges; it’s about accountability for a serious crime.
"FYI - GOD commanded for girls/women to 'CRY OUT' when being raped = BEST WAY to KNOW = Deuteronomy ch22"
Your citation of Deuteronomy 22 is deeply misguided and offensive in this context. First, the passages you quote deal with ancient legal codes that are not applicable to modern jurisprudence or ethics.
Second, and more importantly, they do not apply to a 12-year-old child. A child of that age is not capable of consenting or “crying out” in a way that absolves an adult of responsibility. Your interpretation ignores the power dynamics and the vulnerability of a child in such situations.
Ignoring the victim’s age
You repeatedly fail to acknowledge that the victim was 12 years old when the abuse began. This is not a case of two consenting adults or even a teenager making choices. It’s a case of an adult man exploiting a child. Your questions and biblical references do not change this fundamental fact.

Your questions and assumptions, unfortunately, ignore this fact and can be perceived as an attempt to justify or minimize the seriousness of the crime. The Bible, while a source of moral guidance for many, should not be used to excuse or rationalize child sexual abuse.
 

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I’m going to be blunt because your latest comments are not only misguided but also deeply harmful. Let’s address your points directly and with the gravity they deserve.
No! A 12-year-old girl cannot “want to tango” in any meaningful, consensual sense. You’re trivializing child sexual abuse by reducing it to a dance metaphor. A 12-year-old is a child, not an adult capable of making informed decisions about sexual activity. Your statement ignores the psychological, emotional, and legal realities of childhood. Suggesting that “many” 12-year-old girls want sexual relationships is not only false but also perpetuates dangerous stereotypes that blame victims.
A young 12 year old girl was found murdered = She loved sex and craved it so much that she would meet up(repeat = she would meet up) with anonymous men on the internet until she met up with the wrong guy
This is a disturbing and baseless generalization. Even if such a tragic case existed (which you haven’t provided evidence for), it does not justify or explain the actions of Robert Morris, who admitted to abusing a 12-year-old over four years. Blaming a murdered child for her own death by suggesting she “loved sex” is victim-blaming at its worst. It’s irrelevant to this discussion and shows a profound lack of empathy and understanding.

She was from a financially well-off family so poverty had zero impact on her decisions.
This is a non-sequitur. The socioeconomic status of a victim does not determine their vulnerability to abuse or their ability to consent. Child sexual abuse happens across all economic backgrounds, and your focus on this detail is a distraction from the core issue: an adult man admitted to abusing a child.

It always takes 'two-2-tango' (except in rape/forced coercion) as SIN is always present upon boys and girls
Once again, you’re missing the point. Robert Morris admitted to the crime. A 12-year-old cannot consent, and the idea that “sin is always present” does not excuse or mitigate the actions of an adult predator. Your repeated insistence on this “two-to-tango” narrative is not only factually incorrect but also morally reprehensible in this context.

and GOD knows the hearts - Deuteronomy 22:23-24
You’re misapplying Deuteronomy 22:23-24, which deals with ancient legal codes for betrothed women, not children. This passage has no relevance to a 12-year-old victim of sexual abuse. Moreover, using scripture to justify or question the actions of a child victim is a gross misinterpretation and an insult to both the text and the survivor. God’s knowledge of hearts does not absolve humans of their responsibility to protect children and hold abusers accountable.
 

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No! A 12-year-old girl cannot “want to tango” in any meaningful, consensual sense. You’re trivializing child sexual abuse by reducing it to a dance metaphor. A 12-year-old is a child, not an adult capable of making informed decisions about sexual activity. Your statement ignores the psychological, emotional, and legal realities of childhood. Suggesting that “many” 12-year-old girls want sexual relationships is not only false but also perpetuates dangerous stereotypes that blame victims.

This is a disturbing and baseless generalization. Even if such a tragic case existed (which you haven’t provided evidence for), it does not justify or explain the actions of Robert Morris, who admitted to abusing a 12-year-old over four years. Blaming a murdered child for her own death by suggesting she “loved sex” is victim-blaming at its worst. It’s irrelevant to this discussion and shows a profound lack of empathy and understanding.


This is a non-sequitur. The socioeconomic status of a victim does not determine their vulnerability to abuse or their ability to consent. Child sexual abuse happens across all economic backgrounds, and your focus on this detail is a distraction from the core issue: an adult man admitted to abusing a child.


Once again, you’re missing the point. Robert Morris admitted to the crime. A 12-year-old cannot consent, and the idea that “sin is always present” does not excuse or mitigate the actions of an adult predator. Your repeated insistence on this “two-to-tango” narrative is not only factually incorrect but also morally reprehensible in this context.


You’re misapplying Deuteronomy 22:23-24, which deals with ancient legal codes for betrothed women, not children. This passage has no relevance to a 12-year-old victim of sexual abuse. Moreover, using scripture to justify or question the actions of a child victim is a gross misinterpretation and an insult to both the text and the survivor. God’s knowledge of hearts does not absolve humans of their responsibility to protect children and hold abusers accountable.
Well, it is OBVIOUS you do not know/understand Scripture and God's POV

Once AGAIN = no one is seeking to exonerate Robert Morris except in your mind.

If you knew God's POV you would understand Genesis, the Power of Sin that all of mankind/children are enslaved Under, the Purposes of GOD in Abraham/Isaac/Jacob, Moses and the Law and a Jewish MESSIAH = as well as the Restoration of the Jewish people.

FYI - OT = Mary was between 12 and 16 years old = where 16 is 'getting old'' for a young virgin not to be married.
 
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explain - thank you
It forces the male to work harder, rather than just get a female naive about sex, and the labors about marriage. Do you need me to quote the Torahs or will accept my estimate of 60 days' pay along with her dad giving the farm gradually?
 
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Well, it is OBVIOUS you do not know/understand Scripture and God's POV

Once AGAIN = no one is seeking to exonerate Robert Morris except in your mind.

If you knew God's POV you would understand Genesis, the Power of Sin that all of mankind/children are enslaved Under, the Purposes of GOD in Abraham/Isaac/Jacob, Moses and the Law and a Jewish MESSIAH = as well as the Restoration of the Jewish people.

FYI - OT = Mary was between 12 and 16 years old = where 16 is 'getting old'' for a young virgin not to be married.
This isn't a theology debate. Robert Morris pleaded guilty to a crime under U.S. law. Specifically, Aggravated Sexual Assault of a Child.

You're response? To ignore the law and lecture me about the Bible and the Virgin Mary. Are you seriously this confused? There's a fundamental difference between a marriage and the violent, predatory assault of a 12-year-old child.

Do you not understand that? We're not in the 1st century. Using The Bible to minimize a modern child sex crime is not just stupid, it's despicable.
 

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This isn't a theology debate. Robert Morris pleaded guilty to a crime under U.S. law. Specifically, Aggravated Sexual Assault of a Child.

You're response? To ignore the law and lecture me about the Bible and the Virgin Mary. Are you seriously this confused? There's a fundamental difference between a marriage and the violent, predatory assault of a 12-year-old child.

Do you not understand that? We're not in the 1st century. Using The Bible to minimize a modern child sex crime is not just stupid, it's despicable.
TRUTH & Understanding ALREADY covered by GOD in His WORD = get UP to Warp Speed in the Holy Spirit

STOP running circles in you r own head and LISTEN
 

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This isn't a theology debate. Robert Morris pleaded guilty to a crime under U.S. law. Specifically, Aggravated Sexual Assault of a Child.

You're response? To ignore the law and lecture me about the Bible and the Virgin Mary. Are you seriously this confused? There's a fundamental difference between a marriage and the violent, predatory assault of a 12-year-old child.

Do you not understand that? We're not in the 1st century. Using The Bible to minimize a modern child sex crime is not just stupid, it's despicable.
Your response to God is to ignore His LAW which judges the intent and motives of a persons heart.

You seem to fail at understanding what GOD has said about a young woman's responsibilty to speak out and declare that she was raped and/or forcibly coerced.

The indictment says Morris’ actions started on Christmas and
continued over the next four years.

God knows EXACTLY what took place between this girl from age 12 thru 16 and the young man who was 20 to 24.

“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
 

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Your response to God is to ignore His LAW which judges the intent and motives of a persons heart.

You seem to fail at understanding what GOD has said about a young woman's responsibilty to speak out and declare that she was raped and/or forcibly coerced.

The indictment says Morris’ actions started on Christmas and
continued over the next four years.

God knows EXACTLY what took place between this girl from age 12 thru 16 and the young man who was 20 to 24.

“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
You have now completely confirmed that you are using the Bible to justify and excuse the crime of child sexual abuse.

You quote a passage about a "young woman" who is betrothed, deliberately ignoring the critical fact that the victim in this case was a 12-year-old child. A child is not a "young woman." The rules and responsibilities of an adult do not, and cannot, apply to a child.

Furthermore, we are living in the 21st century. Our society has progressed, and we have laws—a criminal code—that clearly defines and punishes crimes against children, including sexual assault. These laws exist to protect the most vulnerable, not to blame them.

So, are you seriously suggesting that children who have become victims of criminal acts by pedophiles should be stoned to death?
Do not hide behind "this is what the Bible says." Nowhere in the Bible does it say to commit such a monstrous act.
Using scripture to advocate for the execution of a victim is not piety; it is a monstrous defense of a pedophile and a direct attack on the child.
 
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