The Mark of the Beast is here!

[Earburner]

Right now, digital currency is not the Mark of the Beast.

Soon it will merge and become One with our bodies = to those who take the Mark = DO NOT take the Mark WHEN it comes

Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

Invisible Digital currency is the cause FOR "the mark of the beast".
By not having the mark of the beast, one will not be granted permission to have access to their "Digital Wallet", aka bank accounts (edit): debit cards, credit cards. Cash will become obsolete and outlawed.

 

[David in NJ]

Invisible Digital currency is the cause FOR "the mark of the beast".
By not having the mark of the beast, one will not be granted permission to have access to their "Digital Wallet", aka bank accounts.

The actual 'cause' for the Mark of the Beast is to defile the Temple of GOD beyond Redemption = see Genesis/Flood

The impetus that leads the world to the MoB is:
a.) credit , credit cards , financial debt
b.) current monetary financial collapse
c.) digital currency technology that is attached to your "head and/or hand"

 

[Gottservant]

The average is closer to the truth, than the lone wolf - if we are going to beat this "mark" question, it won't be by us all having our own idea of the truth, on our own.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Invisible Digital currency is the cause FOR "the mark of the beast".
By not having the mark of the beast, one will not be granted permission to have access to their "Digital Wallet", aka bank accounts (edit): debit cards, credit cards. Cash will become obsolete and outlawed.

You forgot to include worshiping the beast.

The mark of the beast the Word of God speaks of is not only taking the mark, but includes worship of the beast

 

[Gottservant]

You forgot to include worshiping the beast.

The mark of the beast the Word of God speaks of is not only taking the mark, but includes worship of the beast

That's why the issue of the Beast is something that we need to repent over - it's a Garden of Gethsemane moment (if we were not able to survive the tribulation with prayer, God would have warned us of that).

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

That's why the issue of the Beast is something that we need to repent over

No, if you take the mark of the beast you go straight to hell according to God's Word.
No amount of repenting will change that.

He wouldn't lie about that, would He? Apparently the Lord views taking the mark as a form of blaspheming the Holy Spirit since b y taking the mark a person is giving their body over to the devil when the Lord says our body belongs to Him along with our entire being (body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, so giving it to the devil is blaspheming the Holy Spirit)

Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If ANY MAN worship the beast and his image, and
receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his
indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the
presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who
worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Since Jesus said the only sin not forgivable is blaspheming the Holy Ghost (Matthew 12:31), some claim this
means if a Christian takes the mark of the beast which includes worshiping the beast they will still go to Heaven.

Jesus specifically tells us in Revelation 14:9-11 that taking the mark of the beast will in fact send one to hell so
it's very obvious that Jesus considers taking the mark of the beast to be blaspheming the Holy Ghost, and here's
why:

1 Corinthians 6:19,20
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and
ye are not your own?
For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Romans 12:1,2
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy,
acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove
what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

A Christians has NO right to turn away from the Lord and submit themselves and their body to the beast by
taking his mark which is to be in agreement with the beast which is worship unto the beast.

Those taking the mark of the beast are in fact blaspheming the Holy Ghost and those that say it is not are
considering what Jesus said in Revelation 14:9-11 to be a lie.

Things never end well for those that think Jesus lied and think they can go their own way and do their own will
while rejecting His will for their lives.

 

[Gottservant]

No, if you take the mark of the beast you go straight to hell according to God's Word.
No amount of repenting will change that.

He wouldn't lie about that, would He? Apparently the Lord views taking the mark as a form of blaspheming the Holy Spirit since b y taking the mark a person is giving their body over to the devil when the Lord says our body belongs to Him along with our entire being (body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, so giving it to the devil is blaspheming the Holy Spirit)

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Things never end well for those that think Jesus lied and think they can go their own way and do their own will
while rejecting His will for their lives.

Yes but if you don't repent, taking the "mark" is always going to look easier (when its not).

You are trying to combat the "mark" with 'words'. I am saying "use your words to pray".

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Yes but if you don't repent, taking the "mark" is always going to look easier (when its not).

You are trying to combat the "mark" with 'words'. I am saying "use your words to pray".

Pray all you'd like, if you take the mark of the beast you go to hell

Unless one wants to make the argument that Revelation 14:9-11 is a lie?

 

[Gottservant]

Pray all you'd like, if you take the mark of the beast you go to hell

Unless one wants to make the argument that Revelation 14:9-11 is a lie?

Yes, but can you tell that you are tempted? If you don't pray?

You are saying "if you pray AND take the mark, you are damned" - the fact that you are accusing me of not knowing how to pray that I don't take the mark aside - at least if I have prayed, my damnation will be less!

The fact is it doesn't have to reach that point. In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus said "pray lest your enter in temptation". What do you think that means? Pray unless you end up on the "cross"? What's the difference between that and a 'mark'?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You are saying "if you pray AND take the mark, you are damned"

No, I never said anything about praying. I simply said if you take the mark you are damned based on Revelation 14:9-11

you are accusing me of not knowing how to pray

It's more like not knowing how to read at this point.

You should carefully read and understand Revelation 14:9-11

not knowing how to pray that I don't take the mark aside

No need to pray over whether to take the mark or not.

Just decide right now, "I'm NOT taking the mark" and set that in stone in your thinking.

There's nothing to pray about after reading and understanding Revelation 14:9-11, is there?

How would that prayer sound? - "uh Lord, please help me decide whether to take the mark and go to hell or not take the mark and spend eternity with you - which way should I go with this Lord, please help me decide"

at least if I have prayed, my damnation will be less!

Oh that's nice. The belief that the fires of hell will be slightly less hot if you prayed before taking the mark and ending up in hell.

I can assure you that is a moot point to those burning in hell. They're still being tormented there for eternity

The smart ones decide to abide in Christ and not go to hell.

So let's be smart about this and make a quality decision right now to NOT take the mark.

A quality decision is one about which there is no debate and from which there is no retreat.

 

[David in NJ]

You forgot to include worshiping the beast.

The mark of the beast the Word of God speaks of is not only taking the mark, but includes worship of the beast

Not necessarily in the way we think of 'worship'.

People 'worship' things without falling on their knees or praying

Examples:
a.) Cars/Trucks
b.) Houses/Homes
c.) Sports
d.) Clothing, Shoes, Jewelry
e.) food
f.) alcohol
g.) respect of persons = Trump, Obama, Clintons, movie stars, pastors, pope
h.) drugs
i.) Big pharma
j.) NASA
k.) SEX

and the WINNER for this 'christian' forum is = pre-trib rapture / man-made doctrines

My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality. 2For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings, in fine apparel, and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes, 3and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, “You sit here in a good place,” and say to the poor man, “You stand there,” or, “Sit here at my footstool,” 4have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts?

5Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him? 6But you have dishonored the poor man. Do not the rich oppress you and drag you into the courts? 7Do they not blaspheme that noble name by which you are called?

8If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. 13For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

 

[Gottservant]

No, I never said anything about praying. I simply said if you take the mark you are damned based on Revelation 14:9-11

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Oh that's nice. The belief that the fires of hell will be slightly less hot if you prayed before taking the mark and ending up in hell.

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I am trying to get you from head knowledge, that you won't take the mark, to heart knowledge, that you know why people take the mark, but differ from them and trust the Lord in some tangible way.

The difficulty is you think I am contradicting the Bible, because I don't make straight one way decisions in life. I am sort of getting used to that, but I would hate to think that you don't have the Lord's council in this matter, simply because you think God is expecting you to make an 'obvious' decision not to think about it at all.

I get that you trust your own zeal, but know the phrase "so Heavenly minded, you are of no Earthly good"? I think you could be a stronger zealot, if you really trusted God (or at least prayer).

 

[Earburner]

You forgot to include worshiping the beast.

The mark of the beast the Word of God speaks of is not only taking the mark, but includes worship of the beast

"No one is able to "worship" anything or anyone, unless they are willing to be compliant to the purpose of worship".- Earburner

Compliance to the will of another is worship.

 

[Earburner]

The average is closer to the truth, than the lone wolf - if we are going to beat this "mark" question, it won't be by us all having our own idea of the truth, on our own.

On any given topic (such as the MoB), there can always be more than one lie, but there can never be more than one truth.

For the truth of what the MoB is, we are to trust what the Holy Spirit is currently teaching us (1 Cor. 2:13), and not that which is of the religious doctrines (will) of men.
1 Cor. 2:13; 1 John 2:27.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I am trying to get you from head knowledge, that you won't take the mark

You are way out of your league there bud.

I'm walking in the revelation of the Holy Spirit based on God's Word so I learned long ago to choose to not take the mark.

I don't make straight one way decisions in life

Those not purposing in their heart to live in obedience to the Lord wouldn't as they are not being led by the Holy Spirit Who will teach God's true Children to always choose the Lord.

I get that you trust your own zeal

Erroneous assumption on your part as you continue to embarrass yourself

"No one is able to "worship" anything or anyone, unless they are willing to be compliant to the purpose of worship".- Earburner

That's funny - quoting yourself as though what you say is on the level of God's Word.

 

[Earburner]

That's funny - quoting yourself as though what you say is on the level of God's Word.

Sorry that you grouped me with the religious thoughts of GS. I think in kind with your thoughts from the Holy Spirit.

If that is all you have for argument, then my following quote is just as authoritive:
"There can always be more than one lie, but there can never be more than one truth".- Earburner. (post 334).

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

my following quote is just as authoritive

Too bad you have nothing from the Word of the Living God to quote.

Sounds like you are just talking to yourself over there.

You should starting listening to what the Lord says in His Word instead of yourself

 

[Earburner]

Too bad you have nothing from the Word of the Living God to quote.

Sounds like you are just talking to yourself over there.

You should starting listening to what the Lord says in His Word instead of yourself View attachment 74026

There is no need for this foolish exchange of words.

If you can not discern what the Holy Spirit teaches through the KJV Bible, then 1 Cor. ch. 2 will help you to depart from the religious ways of those who are NOT "new creatures in Christ Jesus".
All of such, are those who still live and speak through the "natural man"......being the unsaved.

 

[Gottservant]

You are way out of your league there bud.

I'm walking in the revelation of the Holy Spirit based on God's Word so I learned long ago to choose to not take the mark.

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If you were convinced that you were not going to take the mark, you would be angry that someone would suggest that your confidence might waver.

Bitter that you decided not to already, is something God will have to help you with, I guess.

 

[Earburner]

• If you were convinced that you were not going to take the mark, you would be angry that someone would suggest that your confidence might waver.

Bitter that you decided not to already, is something God will have to help you with, I guess.

Are you saying that the temptatation to reject or take the mark of the beast (MoB) is alot like the issue that Peter had in his temptation to deny or admit knowing Christ?
I agree!

But first, we must conclude that in the time of Peter's temptation, he had not yet received the indwelling of God's Holy Spirit.
Mat. 26
[34] Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt  DENY me thrice.
[75] And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

However today, all born again Christians DO HAVE the indwelling of His Holy Spirit, and therefore are WITHOUT excuse in taking the MoB.

It would be the same act of DENIAL as that of Peter. The only difference is Peter was forgiven in his denial of Christ, whereas today, born again Christians would NEVER be forgiven for their denial, because they would have had the witness of Christ Himself within themselves.
Such an act as that, is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, of which there is NEVER forgiveness.
Mat. 12
[31] Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.