Do "Lord and Savior" titles go on forever, even into the next glorified life?

[JustMe]

Do "Lord and Savior" titles go on forever, even into the next glorified life?

Will Christians quit calling Jesus their Lord and Savior once they get immortal bodies? Or later, when he brings God's Kingdom?

If not, do they still need saving in that glorious Kingdom state? Or do those titles just fuel more worship of God's Son above the Father, who stays the true top Lord and Savior?

In the Kingdom, won't Christians all share God's Spirit like Yeshua does? God's Spirit fills everyone then, his Son too, as one spirit family of divine people.

 

[David Lamb]

Do "Lord and Savior" titles go on forever, even into the next glorified life?

Will Christians quit calling Jesus their Lord and Savior once they get immortal bodies? Or later, when he brings God's Kingdom?

If not, do they still need saving in that glorious Kingdom state? Or do those titles just fuel more worship of God's Son above the Father, who stays the true top Lord and Savior?

In the Kingdom, won't Christians all share God's Spirit like Yeshua does? God's Spirit fills everyone then, his Son too, as one spirit family of divine people.

I would say that Christians in the glorified life are there only because they have been saved. Even though their salvation was in the past, Jesus can still rightly be referred to as their Saviour, because He is the One Who saved them. He will certainly still be Lord. So I would say that Christians won't stop calling Jesus Christ their Saviour and their Lord when they get to glory.

 

[quietthinker]

Do "Lord and Savior" titles go on forever, even into the next glorified life?

Will Christians quit calling Jesus their Lord and Savior once they get immortal bodies? Or later, when he brings God's Kingdom?

If not, do they still need saving in that glorious Kingdom state? Or do those titles just fuel more worship of God's Son above the Father, who stays the true top Lord and Savior?

In the Kingdom, won't Christians all share God's Spirit like Yeshua does? God's Spirit fills everyone then, his Son too, as one spirit family of divine people.

Your questions are born out of a misunderstanding of God's Kingdom. This needs to be sorted if one is to understand the many stories/ parables Jesus told in illustration of God's Kingdom.

Jesus is our brother. He has taken on being human for eternity, not just 33 years. He has condescended to elevate us and bring us into the family of God. The concept is mind-blowing so to speak. The Kingdom of God pertains not only to geography but to the whole reality of God.
A revisiting of the illustrations Jesus gave of The Kingdom of God is well worth it......then let the questions flow.....or the insights shared.

 

[JustMe]

Do "Lord and Savior" titles go on forever, even into the next glorified life?

Will Christians quit calling Jesus their Lord and Savior once they get immortal bodies? Or later, when he brings God's Kingdom?

If not, do they still need saving in that glorious Kingdom state? Or do those titles just fuel more worship of God's Son above the Father, who stays the true top Lord and Savior?

In the Kingdom, won't Christians all share God's Spirit like Yeshua does? God's Spirit fills everyone then, his Son too, as one spirit family of divine people.

I would say that Christians in the glorified life are there only because they have been saved. Even though their salvation was in the past, Jesus can still rightly be referred to as their Saviour, because He is the One Who saved them. He will certainly still be Lord. So I would say that Christians won't stop calling Jesus Christ their Saviour and their Lord when they get to glory.

Why does Jesus remain master over saved people in the Kingdom? He said in Matthew 12:48-50, "Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does my Father's will in heaven is my brother, sister, and mother." In spiritual terms, how can Jesus be both brother and master there? Even before the Kingdom's full arrival, Jesus spoke of his equals under God his Father.

I figured in the Kingdom, all would stand equal, sharing God's Spirit—even Jesus. His role as master or lord for the saved had ended.

 

[JustMe]

Your questions are born out of a misunderstanding of God's Kingdom. This needs to be sorted if one is to understand the many stories/ parables Jesus told in illustration of God's Kingdom.

Jesus is our brother. He has taken on being human for eternity, not just 33 years. He has condescended to elevate us and bring us into the family of God. The concept is mind-blowing so to speak. The Kingdom of God pertains not only to geography but to the whole reality of God.
A revisiting of the illustrations Jesus gave of The Kingdom of God is well worth it......then let the questions flow.....or the insights shared.

Scripture doesn't show Jesus taking on human life forever. That strikes me as too much for God's Son as the Father never once confirmed this idea. His Father draws us into his family, not Jesus, though Jesus 'nailed' the Father's plan.

I've checked the Kingdom of God teachings. The parables and words don't urge me to tweak, add, or drop my current ideas about the subject.


I do see this truth however: Kingdom life now, in this current state, and in full reality later, reveals God, the Father, completely.

 

[quietthinker]

Scripture doesn't show Jesus taking on human life forever. That strikes me as too much for God's Son as the Father never once confirmed this idea. His Father draws us into his family, not Jesus, though Jesus 'nailed' the Father's plan.

I've checked the Kingdom of God teachings. The parables and words don't urge me to tweak, add, or drop my current ideas about the subject.


I do see this truth however: Kingdom life now, in this current state, and in full reality later, reveals God, the Father, completely.

When Jesus appeared to the disciples in their locked room (after his Resurrection) he asked them to handle him as a Spirit does not have flesh and blood, (Luke 24:39) then 40 days later he ascended to heaven. While the disciples were gazing heaven-ward two angels appeared and told them, 'this same Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw him go into heaven' (Acts 1:11)

 

[Lambano]

Does our past relationship with a person affect our present relationship with them?

 

[JustMe]

When Jesus appeared to the disciples in their locked room (after his Resurrection) he asked them to handle him as a Spirit does not have flesh and blood, (Luke 24:39) then 40 days later he ascended to heaven. While the disciples were gazing heaven-ward two angels appeared and told them, 'this same Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw him go into heaven' (Acts 1:11)

Well, yes, Jesus was in a transitional state (spirit body) after his resurrection, suited for this earth, in this realm. When he ascended as witnessed on the hill, he went from this transitional earthly state of being into a completely invisible state, of a spiritual body, like passing through a hidden door.

This side subject is all well and good, although I would like to ask you what does all this have to do with calling Jesus 'lord and saviour' or not in the Kingdom where all are in the spiritual realm invisible to the physical universe? Truth is, this strengthens my idea. It does lend some support that we will no longer say 'lord and savior' in the Kingdom.

 

[quietthinker]

Well, yes, Jesus was in a transitional state (spirit body) after his resurrection, suited for this earth, in this realm. When he ascended as witnessed on the hill, he went from this transitional earthly state of being into a completely invisible state, of a spiritual body, like passing through a hidden door.

This side subject is all well and good, although I would like to ask you what does all this have to do with calling Jesus 'lord and saviour' or not in the Kingdom where all are in the spiritual realm invisible to the physical universe? Truth is, this strengthens my idea. It does lend some support that we will no longer say 'lord and savior' in the Kingdom.

whatever makes you conclude we are invisible to the physical universe?

 

[JustMe]

Does our past relationship with a person affect our present relationship with them?

This question might be the powder charge needed to completely open up others to move off topic, if not careful.

I want to center on being in the current earthly realm in spirit, versus the heavenly Kingdom realm, in a complete spirit life without the drag of the flesh, and with new roles, and therefore different relationships, in answering your question.

We are accustomed in having relationships, good or great ones in this case. And when reengaged in the future, where all past and present variables are still set the same, these relationships do not change, or should not.

The key though is the type of relationship that both parties are flung into, in the Kingdom realm. In this case not only is the Christian completely changed, Jesus also changes in his relationship with us. We are now wedded to Christ. And our new roles and his 'new' role should make our past relationship whilst on earth quite different in the Kingdom. I mean, Jesus is currently of the role as the right hand or power of God in heaven. It will change again in the future when he returns the Kingdom back to his father.

 

[JustMe]

whatever makes you conclude we are invisible to the physical universe?

I see you want answers to my non-central ideas first, and still you do not answer my OP.

Christ, the angels are invisible to those currently living in physical realm and so the Christian will be aswell, in the Kingdom of a different realm. And there is no real support for this earth to continue on, as it may be completely destroyed. No, I do not believe that scripture supports a redo of this wretched corrupted earth as the new Kingdom. It must be completely different, pure, as another of Christ's current roles is to ensure this happens with heavenly dwelling places for all of its new reborn citizens. Only the pure, the faithful adopted children of God, reborn human beings will be granted access and live in the Kingdom upon its consummation, in full.

 

[Lambano]

I want to center on being in the current earthly realm in spirit, versus the heavenly Kingdom realm, in a complete spirit life without the drag of the flesh, and with new roles, and therefore different relationships, in answering your question.

I'm not sure we agree with what the Age To Come will look like.

 

[JustMe]

I'm not sure we agree with what the Age To Come will look like.

Well that may be true.

Now if Christians have full remembrance of their previous lives, I believe they will still seriously consider the works of Christ and what he did for them as master and saviour. In other words they can still recollect their previous relationship in being saved and what it still means to them.