Ammillennialism's illegitimate redefining and switching around of the meaning of Greek words and biblical concepts

[rwb]

Keeping in mind the awful separation that occurred when Adam spiritually died when he partook of the forbidden fruit in the Garden, and allowing for the fact that all mankind was represented in Adam in that Fall, we now see the great reconciliation that is realized between God and man through Christ in the act of salvation. The sinner is made spiritually alive and brought into mystical union with God through the person and work of Christ, by supernaturally receiving life and by being spiritually revitalized.

Yes, in the act of salvation man is reconciled to God through God in us. We are not reconciled to God by being spiritually resurrected. Adam received the consequences promised him for disobeying God. Adam did NOT spiritually die, the Spirit that gave him life when he was created departed from him, so Adam, was left a natural darkened spirit like the beguiling serpent that deceived them, destined to die.

This text teaches us that our “natural” ‘soulish’ man came first; the “spiritual … heavenly” came second. This is talking about our old man and our new man. The old man is dead unto God and controlled by natural understanding and natural feelings. Our new man is our spiritual man who has been raised from spiritual death. He is God-conscience, and alive unto God. These two natures are in conflict with each other.

The old man is not dead but destined to die through trespasses and sins! That's why unsaved man must be born again, not resurrected. Yes, when we are destined to die, we are natural man without eternal life through the Spirit of Christ in us. We become a new man not through resurrection, but when we are born again through the Spirit of Christ in us. The new man is not spiritual man, we are still of flesh with physical form, having natural mortal life through our natural spirit, but as new man we also have the presence of the Holy Spirit in us as we did in the beginning when man was created. Through His Spirit in us we have attained eternal life and shall have resurrected physical immortal life when Christ comes again.

We are talking about regeneration here! We are looking at the translation of a man from death to life. This is indeed supernatural, and is instigated by the Lord. The phrase "a quickening spirit" is talking about the initiator of life Jesus Christ; a quickened spirit is the recipient of that life.

Regeneration does not come from being resurrected! Regeneration comes by being born again!

I cannot find anywhere written "spiritually dead", "soulish man" or "spiritual man"?

 

[WPM]

Yes, in the act of salvation man is reconciled to God through God in us. We are not reconciled to God by being spiritually resurrected. Adam received the consequences promised him for disobeying God. Adam did NOT spiritually die, the Spirit that gave him life when he was created departed from him, so Adam, was left a natural darkened spirit like the beguiling serpent that deceived them, destined to die.


The old man is not dead but destined to die through trespasses and sins! That's why unsaved man must be born again, not resurrected. Yes, when we are destined to die, we are natural man without eternal life through the Spirit of Christ in us. We become a new man not through resurrection, but when we are born again through the Spirit of Christ in us. The new man is not spiritual man, we are still of flesh with physical form, having natural mortal life through our natural spirit, but as new man we also have the presence of the Holy Spirit in us as we did in the beginning when man was created. Through His Spirit in us we have attained eternal life and shall have resurrected physical immortal life when Christ comes again.


Regeneration does not come from being resurrected! Regeneration comes by being born again!

I cannot find anywhere written "spiritually dead", "soulish man" or "spiritual man"?

Do you believe we are tri-part beings – body soul and spirit?

 

[rwb]

I have showed the Scriptures repeatedly. So you know them. Very clear.

Do you believe we are tri-part beings – body soul and spirit?

I believe the Bible. Man is created with a body + the breath of life (spirit) and together body + spirit became a living soul.

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, (outer man flesh & bone) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; (Spirit of God) and man became a living soul (complete human being).

When man disobeyed God, the Spirit of God departed from them, leaving them natural man destined to die, just as God said they would. But God provided Himself the Lamb, which is represented by the blood of the animals that provided A&E covering for their nakedness.

Genesis 2:17 (KJV) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day (representing the age of time in which Adam lived and died) that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

 

[WPM]

I believe the Bible. Man is created with a body + the breath of life (spirit) and together body + spirit became a living soul.

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, (outer man flesh & bone) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; (Spirit of God) and man became a living soul (complete human being).

When man disobeyed God, the Spirit of God departed from them, leaving them natural man destined to die, just as God said they would. But God provided Himself the Lamb, which is represented by the blood of the animals that provided A&E covering for their nakedness.

Genesis 2:17 (KJV) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day (representing the age of time in which Adam lived and died) that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

That explains why you deny the truth on this. You have to support your position on that. Until you sort that out it is pointless reasoning with you.

 

[Zao is life]

Did your read the Scripture in Post 179?

God created us with 3 Parts with a body , a soul and a spirit

I replied to your post above HERE

 

[Hazelelponi]

That explains why you deny the truth on this. You have to support your position on that. Until you sort that out it is pointless reasoning with y

It might make a good thread.

 

[Lizbeth]

also = Mystery Babylon of Revelation encompasses the whole world = 1 John 5:19

We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.

I've come to an understanding that she is a spiritual adulterous...in bed with the world (beast kingdom) - she is not the beast but she is riding it - instead of keeping herself to her true Husband only. Means the spirit of the world has infiltrated what should have belonged to God only. (First Israel, now the church that is falling away.) She is full of mixture.....which causes the clean to become unclean....."come out from her and touch not the unclean (mixture) thing". Her "merchants" make merchandise of the people....they trade in souls of men. The bible says to buy the truth (pay a price for it), BUT SELL IT NOT. Remember Jesus saying they had turned His Father's house into a house of merchandise. And just look at the evangelical big-wigs of today and their false doctrines with their private jets and multiple mansions and cozying up to political leaders. Yes she has spread her filth all over the world and led it astray instead of leading to the true pure gospel. (Being "the head and not the tail" means she has intrinsic power/ influence to lead - whether for good or for evil and mixture, she IS leading. For example, I've seen African and Philippine ministries copying her ways.)

 

[Lizbeth]

Thank you. You gave a respectful answer. Thank you very much for that.

No reason not to...for most of my Christian life I used to believe in a future earthly millennial reign as well, and only the last few years the Lord has been gracious to get me to look at it with fresh eyes and revise my understanding....still a work in progress. Although I know things often get over-heated on forums.

No, that's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying they replace verses talking about the quickening of the body and being physically alive with the quickening of the human spirit and being spiritually alive wherever their doctrine requires it (so not in all verses / passages, but where Amil doctrine requires it to make verses and passages comply with Amil).

I changed Post # 2 in this thread to make it clearer what I'm saying.

ok thank you......I'm not able to keep up with all the posts and details of the discussion, but I believe in general there should be a happy medium between being either too rigid or playing too fast and loose with interpretations. It doesn't seem that the Lord always confines Himself too rigidly to our strict linguistic rules, but then again He certainly isn't careless in how He is trying to communicate to us either. He means what He says, but we need Him to enlighten us as to what He is trying to get across. Scholarship and exegesis alone won't get us there....if it could, the learned religious leaders of Jesus' day wouldn't have still been in the dark.

I understand what you are saying because I know and believe and experience the reality of what He said when He said His Kingdom is within us and also said He is within us,

and I also know that therefore as long as there are saints in this world His Kingdom is IN the world but as He said to Pilate, His Kingdom is not OF this present time of this world.

Perhaps we could say not just this present time, but present order. Since immortality is going to swallow up mortality....(New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven)......this world will not be earthly any more, it will be heavenly, if I'm understanding aright. It will be a place in heaven....heaven is going to take it over. Imagine the sun coming down and swallowing up this planet, lol. No contest.

Yes I agree but we ought not to forget some parts of scripture while remembering only some other parts. Hebrews also tells us that though all things have already been placed under His feet, in this present time we do not "see" it yet - just as Jesus told Pilate, His Kingdom is not of this present time of this world.

IMO this does not mean that all authority in heaven and on earth has not already been given Him. He has chosen not to use all of it yet - that's why we wait for His return.

I totally agree that though all things have been put under His feet we do not yet "see" all things put under Him, until the end when He returns. His rule and reign is by faith not by sight, until then.

After His resurrection, Jesus Himself said all authority in heaven and earth had been given to Him. He has been ruling and reigning since then....and His church has been ruling and reigning with Him in this present age too, by faith......taking authority over and casting out demons, healing the sick, saving souls etc, in His name.

He never said we would become ministering spirits like the angels are. Paul said the body (soma ) that died is the seed of the body (soma) that is spiritual:

"It is sown a body, natural [Greek: sōma psychikós], it is raised a body, spiritual [sōma pneumatikós]. There is a body, natural [sōma psychikós], and there is a body, spiritual [sōma pneumatikós]."

* The word psychikós is from the word psychḗ (soul / life / mind).
* The word pneumatikós is from the word pneûma (spirit / breath).

It's a resurrected and spiritual body that is being spoken about, which angels do not have - they are spirits. What Jesus said when He said we will be like the angels was not that we wold be ministering spirits like they are. All He said when He said that was that we (the men) will not be marrying and the women will not be given in marriage - but we will be alive forever like the angels are.

Yes I agree Jesus didn't specifically say ministering spirits there...He was only addressing one aspect of being "like the angels", with respect to marriage. But remember the angel who appeared to John in Rev, and said he was one of thy brethren the prophets (Rev 19:10, 22:9). Selah. We see in the bible that angels have bodies that can appear/disappear and even eat food, and the ones that fell were engaging in illicit activities. Like the angels we will have spiritual/glorified bodies, but not like the flesh we have today which are subject to disease and decay and death and subject to natural laws of physics.

Paul said that they were tripped up because they sought to obtain their own righteousness through their own works of obedience to the law and could not accept Christ because of that.

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
-- Romans 9.

I don't know if it's written anywhere in scripture that they rejected Him because He did not accomplish the deliverance from enemy occupation they expected the Messiah to accomplish. Today's Jews will cite that fact - but Paul only mentions their rejection of His sacrifice for their sins as the reason for their stumbling.

I'm always weary to go beyond what is written regarding anything - including the reason they stumbled - because it takes away from scripture the reason Paul gave for their stumbling.

I agree we should not go beyond what is written, and the bible was speaking of deeper underlying spiritual issues of the heart. But they did have the wrong end of the stick and were expecting an earthly king who would rule an earthly kingdom, because of not understanding the allegories/types/shadows of OT scripture. Everything in new testament scripture exhorts and admonishes us to have our eyes, thoughts, hopes and affections above and not below, on the unseen, not on the seen.....looking for a new heavens and new earth because this one will be "dissolved". I'm concerned that looking for and expecting an earthly reign is going to cause people to have false hopes and lead them to a false messiah, both Jews and Christians.

 

[Lizbeth]

Praise God for every Jew and Gentile soul for whom the above has happened.

Amen.

For me the above is interesting and confusing at the same time. Jerusalem and Rome both were and maybe still are candidates for the position - but so are all "compromised" churches. But I'm still clueless.

Yes, I still can't parse everything In Rev either, by far. But I do believe by grace that "to the Jew first and then to the Gentile" is a principle. The colours of purple and scarlet pertain to the OT priesthood as well as to the Catholic Church.. And Rome's mass is a copy of OT temple worship...priests, robes, incense, bells, altar, liturgies, rites/rituals etc. I have heard it said that the apostate priesthood of the first century taught a lot of their Babylon occult knowledge to Rome....there was a kind of intermingling of Israel with Rome due to the occupation. Same Babylon spirit, gone to dwell in a different "body" (Rome) when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD. Rome (Catholicism) and Jerusalem (Talmudic Judaism) have a lot in common.

 

[Lizbeth]

The SAME Pattern of Prophecy will continue to the End until ALL is Fulfilled = AMEN

Prophecy/Gospel culminates with the Second Coming of CHRIST
this is why GOD brought the Jews back to the land of Israel in 1948 = the Fig Tree

Matt 24:32 - Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near.

@Archie @VictoryinJesus

amil is false man-made doctrine as is "satan's little season is taking place now"

So much of what happened to Israel and was prophesied is happening to the church. Israel was our ensample. I think we agree on that if my memory serves.

Yes, they have come back to the Land, for God's purposes. I hope Israel will repent on a national level, but I just am not sure if that is what scripture is saying. Isaiah cried, only a remnant will be saved. In any case, whether that happens in the end or not, it changes nothing about the need to evangelize...that is the only way anyone is going to be saved. Hebrew roots movement is way off course and distracted and unequally yoked with unbelieving Israel. Unbelieving Israel is influencing Hebrew roots people, rather than the other way around.....is this going to lead to Temple worship and a false messiah...Hebrew roots folks are enamoured with the idea of a new Temple.

 

[David in NJ]

So much of what happened to Israel and was prophesied is happening to the church. Israel was our ensample. I think we agree on that if my memory serves.

Yes, they have come back to the Land, for God's purposes. I hope Israel will repent on a national level, but I just am not sure if that is what scripture is saying. Isaiah cried, only a remnant will be saved. In any case, whether that happens in the end or not, it changes nothing about the need to evangelize...that is the only way anyone is going to be saved. Hebrew roots movement is way off course and distracted and unequally yoked with unbelieving Israel. Unbelieving Israel is influencing Hebrew roots people, rather than the other way around.....is this going to lead to Temple worship and a false messiah...Hebrew roots folks are enamoured with the idea of a new Temple.

You got it Sis = on Target with Truth

JESUS brought the Jews back to the Land for the Day of the LORD = Matt 21:33-41 = His Second Coming

“Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.
Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

“Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

JESUS gave us a CLEAR Prophecy in this Parable of His 1st Coming to Israel and of His 2nd Coming
Only His 1st Coming has been Fulfilled
2nd Coming is On the Way as Israel moves closer to their receiving the Antichrist = 2 Thess ch2

 

[David in NJ]

I replied to your post above HERE

Combine the Scriptures i gave you with the ones you posted and you have the WHOLE TRUTH

Leave any scriptures out and you have only Partial Truth.

Matthew 4:4 = "‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

Do yo not SEE the THREE who are Echad Elohim from Genesis and the Gospel???

 

[rwb]

That explains why you deny the truth on this. You have to support your position on that. Until you sort that out it is pointless reasoning with you.

What is it you think I deny that needs to be sorted out? What I have often observed when replying to you is that you don't like to be questioned about what you believe. And when you are you often become unreasonable, which is why replying to you becomes pointless!

 

[Lizbeth]

You got it Sis = on Target with Truth

JESUS brought the Jews back to the Land for the Day of the LORD = Matt 21:33-41 = His Second Coming

“Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.
Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

“Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

JESUS gave us a CLEAR Prophecy in this Parable of His 1st Coming to Israel and of His 2nd Coming
Only His 1st Coming has been Fulfilled
2nd Coming is On the Way as Israel moves closer to their receiving the Antichrist = 2 Thess ch2

Blessings to you brother. The awful events of 70AD happened....and He did lease the vineyard out to other vinedressers, the Gentiles. But I'm afraid what has been will be again........it says concerning Mystery Babylon, "double unto her double", and in Isaiah it says speak comfortably to Israel and tell her she has paid double for all her sins. Twice...? Two-fold judgment? And it will involve apostate Christendom too this second time? Christendom is already coming under judgment.

 

[David in NJ]

The awful events of 70AD happened....and He did lease the vineyard out to other vinedressers, the Gentiles. But I'm afraid what has been will be again........it says concerning Mystery Babylon, "double unto her double", and in Isaiah it says speak comfortably to Israel and tell her she has paid double for all her sins. Twice...? Two-fold judgment? And it will involve apostate Christendom too this second time? Christendom is already coming under judgment.

BOTH = 1 Peter 4:17

The Israel of the flesh will be Judged with the AC in the Land of Israel.

Christendom will be given an opportunity to Repent during the Great Tribulation = Revelation = Letters to the 7 churches

The CUT-OFF is the Mark of the Beast = no one can be forgiven from this.


For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
Now: “If the righteous one is scarcely saved,
Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.

The BIG LIE of amillenialism and "we are living in satan's little season" = 2 Timothy 2 :14-19

Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

It always amazes me as to WHY 'christians' turn a blind eye and heart to His Every Word = respect of persons

 

[David in NJ]

Blessings to you brother. The awful events of 70AD happened....and He did lease the vineyard out to other vinedressers, the Gentiles. But I'm afraid what has been will be again........it says concerning Mystery Babylon, "double unto her double", and in Isaiah it says speak comfortably to Israel and tell her she has paid double for all her sins. Twice...? Two-fold judgment? And it will involve apostate Christendom too this second time? Christendom is already coming under judgment.

70AD was the Prophecy of the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem

70AD DID NOT Fulfill all Scripture as the ERROR and LIE of "satan's little season"

It only takes ONE TRUTH /One word Spoken by GOD to disspell the darkness of doctrines of men = Matt 23:37-39

The nation of Israel has yet to say: Blessed is HE who Comes = the LORD"

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’

70AD "all things fulfilled" is a BIG LIE = run from it

Zechariah 14:1
Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
2For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
5Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the Lord my God will come,
And all the saints with You. = Gospel , 1st & 2nd Thessalonians

@Archie @VictoryinJesus @Hazelelponi

 

[Lizbeth]

BOTH = 1 Peter 4:17

The Israel of the flesh will be Judged with the AC in the Land of Israel.

Christendom will be given an opportunity to Repent during the Great Tribulation = Revelation = Letters to the 7 churches

The CUT-OFF is the Mark of the Beast = no one can be forgiven from this.


For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
Now: “If the righteous one is scarcely saved,
Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.

The BIG LIE of amillenialism and "we are living in satan's little season" = 2 Timothy 2 :14-19

Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

It always amazes me as to WHY 'christians' turn a blind eye and heart to His Every Word = respect of persons

Brother, it is hard for some of us to remember every word, because there are so many of them and also some of us are getting old too, lol.

"saying that the resurrection is already past"......Christ was our forerunner, true?....the tip of the spear who surely was resurrected in the past, and OT saints too.....but I think Paul meant that the rest of us haven't been resurrected yet; that part of it is not past.....it will not happen until the end of this age for the rest of us who have a "part" in it.

 

[amigo de christo]

I've come to an understanding that she is a spiritual adulterous...in bed with the world (beast kingdom) - she is not the beast but she is riding it - instead of keeping herself to her true Husband only. Means the spirit of the world has infiltrated what should have belonged to God only. (First Israel, now the church that is falling away.) She is full of mixture.....which causes the clean to become unclean....."come out from her and touch not the unclean (mixture) thing". Her "merchants" make merchandise of the people....they trade in souls of men. The bible says to buy the truth (pay a price for it), BUT SELL IT NOT. Remember Jesus saying they had turned His Father's house into a house of merchandise. And just look at the evangelical big-wigs of today and their false doctrines with their private jets and multiple mansions and cozying up to political leaders. Yes she has spread her filth all over the world and led it astray instead of leading to the true pure gospel. (Being "the head and not the tail" means she has intrinsic power/ influence to lead - whether for good or for evil and mixture, she IS leading. For example, I've seen African and Philippine ministries copying her ways.)

Looks good sister . Cept lets be sure and include THE RCC in that harlot mess . Much of christendom is now
in dire danger as it has fallen for a r use .

 

[David in NJ]

Blessings to you brother. The awful events of 70AD happened....and He did lease the vineyard out to other vinedressers, the Gentiles. But I'm afraid what has been will be again........it says concerning Mystery Babylon, "double unto her double", and in Isaiah it says speak comfortably to Israel and tell her she has paid double for all her sins. Twice...? Two-fold judgment? And it will involve apostate Christendom too this second time? Christendom is already coming under judgment.

Here are just FOUR PROPHECIES that have NOT been fulfilled

The PROPHECY of Matt 23:37-39 has NOT been fulfilled

The PROPHECY of Zechariah 14:1-5 has NOT been fulfilled

The PROPHECY of 1 Thess 1:10 and 3:11-13 and 4:13-18 has NOT been fulfilled

The PROPHECY of 2 Thess chapters 1 and 2 have NOT been fulfilled

Brother @Archie and @VictoryinJesus An @Hazelelponi , where are you? the LORD has us protected by His every word

 

[Lizbeth]

70AD was the Prophecy of the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem

70AD DID NOT Fulfill all Scripture as the ERROR and LIE of "satan's little season"

It only takes ONE TRUTH /One word Spoken by GOD to disspell the darkness of doctrines of men = Matt 23:37-39

The nation of Israel has yet to say: Blessed is HE who Comes = the LORD"

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’

70AD "all things fulfilled" is a BIG LIE = run from it

Zechariah 14:1
Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
2For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
5Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the Lord my God will come,
And all the saints with You. = Gospel , 1st & 2nd Thessalonians

@Archie @VictoryinJesus @Hazelelponi

70 AD did not fulfill all prophecy, I agree.