How many former Catholics are here?

[Big Boy Johnson]

Goodbye. I don't belong among Catholic haters. BYE and I won't be back.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Actually they do not follow the Jesus of the Bible (the Real Jesus)

They follow a demon that claims to be "jesus" who teaches them to engage in occult activities rather than follow the Teachings of the Real Jesus of the Bible.

Those that think catholics are real Christians are deceived and are ignorant of the teachings of the Lord found in His Word.




Which is doctrines of demons.

Jesus and His Apostles NEVER taught anybody to pray to Jesus' momma View attachment 76360

This is idolatry

And Jesus and the Apostles never taught that the Biblle is our SOLE Authoroity.
That was a 16th century invention by yout Protestant forefathes.

Jesus left His Church in charge ti lead His people (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23) . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The scriptures expose that which is contrary to the TRUTH .
For the scriptures ARE the INSPIRED TRUTH OF GOD .
And beleive me when i say quite a bit of the dogma of such a place
IS very contrary to the very Words of GOD , of CHRIST , of the apostels and the prophets .
As are many dogmas within the protestant realm .
OH YEAH its bible time in the building .

Really?
Whose version - the guy next door or the guy down the street??
Whose interpretations ar the correct ones? YOURS??

This is why there are literally thousands of Protestant denomninations and "on-denominational" sects that ALL teach different doctrines that are ALL based on the personal interpretations of your founders . . .

But many had rather sit and trust in men .

Which is what YOU have ultimately done . . .

2 Pet. 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

And Jesus and the Apostles never taught that the Biblle is our SOLE Authoroity.

That's the lie satan uses to get people to accept extra biblical teaching from demons.

The catholics will learn this the hard way when they die and go south.

The Lord warned us of false teachers like the catholics thru the Apostle Paul

Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

The catholics are the ones spoken of in verse 30

"of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them"

 

[Debp]

@snowbound For me personally I don't hate Catholics. After all the Lord teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. And I have had a couple of Catholic friends, including a Sister.

However I was concerned about a former Muslim here. Instead of him getting grounded in the Scriptures, he is relying only on becoming Catholic. So he is going from one set of dogma in Islam to another dogma of Catholicism.

Don't you agree a new Christian should get grounded in the Word of God?

 

[shepherdsword]

?

This is why there are literally thousands of Protestant denomninations and "on-denominational" sects that ALL teach different doctrines that are ALL based on the personal interpretations of your founders . . .

Prove it. Show us one major doctrine that is affected by personal interpretations? Show us one major doctrine that is affected by a variance in the manuscripts? Catholics keep parroting this same lie over and over. It's just prevaricating dogma spewed out by the priest-kings of the Babylon, who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. I suggest you watch this and see how confident we can be of the preservation of the original manuscripts. It will enlighten you:

 

[BreadOfLife]

Prove it. Show us one major doctrine that is affected by personal interpretations? Show us one major doctrine that is affected by a variance in the manuscripts? Catholics keep parroting this same lie over and over. It's just prevaricating dogma spewed out by the priest-kings of the Babylon, who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. I suggest you watch this and see how confident we can be of the preservation of the original manuscripts. It will enlighten you:

That doesn’t “enlighten” me, as I already know that it was the Catholic Church that preserved and transcribed the Scriptures over the centuries.

As for doctrines affected by personal interpretations – let’s start with Sola Scriptura. This is probably the MAIN false doctrine that has led so many astray.
You guys actually believe that the Bible is your sole Authority – and that anybody can interpret ANY way they feel, which Scripture wars against (2 Pet. 1:20).

What did the Church do for the first 300 years?? Did everybody go to Hell because there was not Canon of Scripture? There were MANY Books that were considered to be Scripture during that time – that are now considered to be Apocryphal. They were read aloud before congregations for centuries. Are those people damned to Hell because they read the “wrong” Books?

Jesus didn’t leave us with a Book. He left us with a CHURCH to lead (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

He left His CHURCH to write down His sacred Word. The Bible didn’t fall out of the sky. The Church didn’t come out of the Bible – the Bible – the written Word of God came out of the CHURCH . . .

Sola Scriptura and personal Interpretation has led to MANY false, man-made doctrines like -
- Sola Fide
- Eternal Security (OSAS)
- “Rapture” Doctrines
- Limited Atonement
- Homosexuality
- Non-necessity of Baptism
- Imputed Righteousness

And the list goes on . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's the lie satan uses to get people to accept extra biblical teaching from demons.
The catholics will learn this the hard way when they die and go south.
The Lord warned us of false teachers like the catholics thru the Apostle Paul

Sooo, it’s a LIE that Jesus and the Apostles didn’t teach Sola Scriptura??
Can you show me the verse(s) where they DID teach that?

I didn’t think so . . .

Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

The catholics are the ones spoken of in verse 30

No - the Catholic (Luke) was the one who wrote down those verses . . .

 

[shepherdsword]

That doesn’t “enlighten” me, as I already know that it was the Catholic Church that preserved and transcribed the Scriptures over the centuries.

I say church and you claim this church is the Roman Catholic church. We don't agree on that.

As for doctrines affected by personal interpretations – let’s start with Sola Scriptura. This is probably the MAIN false doctrine that has led so many astray.
You guys actually believe that the Bible is your sole Authority – and that anybody can interpret ANY way they feel, which Scripture wars against (2 Pet. 1:20).

Sola Scriptura is taught here:
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
I don't interpret scripture any was "I" feel. I consult scholars, other brothers and the Spirit. This is the typical lense we see through:

• One God
• Jesus Christ, true God and true man
• His death, resurrection, and return
• The Holy Spirit
• The Church as the body of Christ
• The resurrection of the dead

Scripture is the final authority
(Isaiah 8:20, John 10:35, 2 Timothy 3:16–17)

What did the Church do for the first 300 years?? Did everybody go to Hell because there was not Canon of Scripture? There were MANY Books that were considered to be Scripture during that time – that are now considered to be Apocryphal. They were read aloud before congregations for centuries. Are those people damned to Hell because they read the “wrong” Books?

I would say not. I am very careful about who "I" condemn to hell. It's a decision way above my paygrade and will be determined by a just and merciful God. The Lord Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man goes to the Father but by me" I see that statement as his teaching us that it is HIS decision and no one else's.

Jesus didn’t leave us with a Book. He left us with a CHURCH to lead (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

He left His CHURCH to write down His sacred Word. The Bible didn’t fall out of the sky. The Church didn’t come out of the Bible – the Bible – the written Word of God came out of the CHURCH . . .

The written word came from the Holy Spirit of God.

Jn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

2 Pe 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The written word is comprised of 66 different books, written by 40 different men, over a period of 1500 years. Most of it was written before the church ever existed. The New Testament was written by special men, inspired of God to give instruction to the church.

Sola Scriptura and personal Interpretation has led to MANY false, man-made doctrines like -
- Sola Fide
- Eternal Security (OSAS)
- “Rapture” Doctrines
- Limited Atonement
- Homosexuality
- Non-necessity of Baptism
- Imputed Righteousness

And the list goes on . . .

I am not with the "OSAS" "limited atonement" or "rapture" crowd( I believe in the 2nd coming)
But let's look at the ERROR that the RCC oral tradition teaches:

Doctrine	When it appears
Prayers to Mary & saints	3rd–4th century
Purgatory	4th–6th century
Papal supremacy	5th–11th century
Immaculate Conception	1854
Papal infallibility	1870
Assumption of Mary	1950

The apostles never taught these. They are idolatrous inventions of corrupt leadership.

Purgatory — Not Biblical​

Catholic tradition teaches souls are purified after death.
Scripture teaches:

• Judgment follows death (Hebrews 9:27)
• Christ’s sacrifice completely cleanses (Hebrews 10:14)
• Believers go directly to Christ (2 Corinthians 5:8)

Purgatory comes from later speculative theology, not apostolic teaching.

The Marian System​

Catholic tradition elevates Mary to:

• “Queen of Heaven”
• “Mediatrix”
• “Co-redemptrix”

But Scripture says:

• One mediator — Christ (1 Timothy 2:5)
• Mary needed a Savior (Luke 1:47)

The Mass vs. the Cross​

Catholic doctrine teaches the Mass is a continual offering of Christ.
Scripture teaches:

• Christ was sacrificed once for all (Hebrews 10:10–14)
• The Eucharist is a memorial, not a re-sacrifice (Luke 22:19)

The sacrificial Mass contradicts Hebrews.

Salvation System​

Catholic tradition teaches:

Grace + sacraments + works

Scripture teaches:

Justification by faith alone (Romans 3–5; Ephesians 2:8–9)

Early church fathers overwhelmingly affirmed salvation by grace, not sacramental merit.

Why Rome Defends Tradition​

Rome must defend tradition because:

• Most of its unique doctrines come from tradition
• Without it, papal authority collapses

This is why Trent condemned sola Scriptura.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I say church and you claim this church is the Roman Catholic church. We don't agree on that.

You have a flawed understanding of the Catholic church.

The “Roman” Catholic Church is only ONE of over TWENTY Liturgical Rites that comprise the ONE Catholic Church. You are leaving out ALL of the Eastern Catholic Rites like the Melkites, Maronites, Byzantines, Coptics, etc.

THAT is the ONE Church established by Jesus Christ and built by the Apostles.
ALL other Churches are splinters of that ONE Church.

Sola Scriptura is taught here:
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
I don't interpret scripture any was "I" feel. I consult scholars, other brothers and the Spirit. This is the typical lense we see through:

• One God
• Jesus Christ, true God and true man
• His death, resurrection, and return
• The Holy Spirit
• The Church as the body of Christ
• The resurrection of the dead

And what about the guy next door who consults other scholars? Who’s right and who’s wrong?
Without the Church to guide us – we’re on our own?? That’s NOT what Jesus intended. Jesus guaranteed His Church:
John 16:12-15
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

This is NOT an individual guarantee – but one to His CHURCH. If it were made to the individual – why are there thousands of Protestant denominations based on thousands of personal interpretations of each founder? He is not the God of confusion. He intended that we ALL remain as ONE Body . . .
John 20”21-23
“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through THEIR word, that they may all be ONE, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be ONE even as we are ONE, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly ONE, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.

Scripture is the final authority
(Isaiah 8:20, John 10:35, 2 Timothy 3:16–17)

That’s NOT what these verses say.

Scripture IS authoritative – but it’s not our “Final” Authority. Scripture itself tells us this much (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

I would say not. I am very careful about who "I" condemn to hell. It's a decision way above my paygrade and will be determined by a just and merciful God. The Lord Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man goes to the Father but by me" I see that statement as his teaching us that it is HIS decision and no one else's.

Then, how did they get to Heaven WITHOUT a Bible??

The written word came from the Holy Spirit of God.

Jn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

2 Pe 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The written word is comprised of 66 different books, written by 40 different men, over a period of 1500 years. Most of it was written before the church ever existed. The New Testament was written by special men, inspired of God to give instruction to the church.

The written Word was AUTHORED by the Holy Spirit. It was WRITTEN down by men in the Catholic Church. It was declared Canonical by the Catholic Church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit in the 4th century.

There are 72 Books – 6 of which were removed by a non-authoritative rabbinical school in Jabneh (Jamnia) in the second century – AFTER the death, resurrections and ascension of Jesus Christ. Jesus and the Apostles studied from them - and referenced them in the NY over a hundred times. In order to further divorce themselves from the Catholic Church in the 16th century - your Protestant Fathers concurred with that edited Canon . . .

I am not with the "OSAS" "limited atonement" or "rapture" crowd( I believe in the 2nd coming)

That’s irrelevant.

There are MILLIONS that DO agree on those principles.

 

[BreadOfLife]

continued . . .

But let's look at the ERROR that the RCC oral tradition teaches:
Doctrine When it appears
Prayers to Mary & saints 3rd–4th century
Purgatory 4th–6th century
Papal supremacy 5th–11th century
Immaculate Conception 1854
Papal infallibility 1870
Assumption of Mary 1950

Your ignorance comes from NOT doing your homework - and completely ignoring the Early Church.
These beliefs and practices can be traced to the beginning.

When a Council defines a doctrine – it’s not “inventing” the doctrine. It is declaring the official definition and clarification. ALL of our Christian doctrines were officially defined because there have been heresies and challenges to those doctrines since the time of the Apostles. Ever heard of the Gnostics? Arians? Nestorians? Manicheans, etc?

The Apostles held the Council of Jerusalem in order to clarify and define the expectations of new Christian converts.

The apostles never taught these. They are idolatrous inventions of corrupt leadership.

Purgatory — Not Biblical​

Catholic tradition teaches souls are purified after death.

Purgatory comes from later speculative theology, not apostolic teaching.

So does the Bible . . .

Since Rev. 21:27 tells us that nothing unclean can enter heaven, a final purification or purgation is necessary for some before entering heaven.

1 Cor. 3:10-15, this is how the process is described:
"According to the grace of God given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But each one must be careful how he builds upon it, for no one can lay a foundation other than the one that is there, namely, Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, the work of each will come to light, for the Day (judgment) will disclose it. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire [itself] will test the quality of each one’s work. If the work stands that someone built upon the foundation, that person will receive a wage. But if someone’s work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person WILL be saved, but only as through fire."

In 2 Macc. 12:42-46, we see that Judas Maccabeus prays for the men of his army, killed in battle. Verse 44 says, “… for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death.”

Matt. 5:25-26 tells us that unless we have settled our matters, we will be “handed over to the prison guard and will not be released until we have paid the last penny.”

Matt. 12:32 states, “whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come”, which indicates that there IS purification after death for some.

Matt. 18:32-35 and Luke 12:58-59 are additional verses that support this doctrine.

The Marian System​

Catholic tradition elevates Mary to:

• “Queen of Heaven”
• “Mediatrix”
• “Co-redemptrix”

But Scripture says:

• One mediator — Christ (1 Timothy 2:5)
• Mary needed a Savior (Luke 1:47)

Jesus IS our only mediator, in that, only HIS sacrifice can bring peace between us and the Father.

However – we are ALL called to be mediators and intercessors ii a less-direct sense (Matt. 5:44, Rom. 10:1, 1 Tim. 2:1, Col. 1:9, Jam. 5:16).

Paul indicated that HE was a mediator:
Col. 1:24
Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

The Mass vs. the Cross​

Catholic doctrine teaches the Mass is a continual offering of Christ.
Scripture teaches:

• Christ was sacrificed once for all (Hebrews 10:10–14)
• The Eucharist is a memorial, not a re-sacrifice (Luke 22:19)

The sacrificial Mass contradicts Hebrews.

WRONG.

The Mass is the re-presentation of Christ’s ONE sacrifice at Calvary. It is re-presented – NOT redone.
And although His sacrifice took place ONCE on earth – it is an ETERNAL sacrifice (Heb. 7:25), Rev. 5:6):

Salvation System​

Catholic tradition teaches:
Grace + sacraments + works

This is completely FALSE.

We are saved by God’s grace through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross.
Dude – DO YOUR HOPMEWORK.

It’s no wonder you hate Catholics so much.
You are completely ignorant of what we believe in . . .

Early church fathers overwhelmingly affirmed salvation by grace, not sacramental merit.

The Catholic Church has ALWAYS taught salvation by grace.
What’s your pint??

Why Rome Defends Tradition
Rome must defend tradition because:

• Most of its unique doctrines come from tradition
• Without it, papal authority collapses

This is why Trent condemned sola Scriptura.

Sola Scriptura is condemned because it’s anti-Scriptural.

Not ONE of you has EVER been able to show me where this “Biblical” doctrine is taught in the Bible . . .

 

[Debp]

No - the Catholic (Luke) was the one

That's funny... Jesus, the disciples and apostles never did anything which the Catholic Church teaches it's members to do.

I say church and you claim this church is the Roman Catholic church. We don't agree on that.

Sola Scriptura is taught here:
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
I don't interpret scripture any way "I" feel. I consult scholars, other brothers and the Spirit. This is the typical lense we see through:

• One God
• Jesus Christ, true God and true man
• His death, resurrection, and return
• The Holy Spirit
• The Church as the body of Christ
• The resurrection of the dead

Scripture is the final authority
(Isaiah 8:20, John 10:35, 2 Timothy 3:16–17)



I would say not. I am very careful about who "I" condemn to hell. It's a decision way above my paygrade and will be determined by a just and merciful God. The Lord Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man goes to the Father but by me" I see that statement as his teaching us that it is HIS decision and no one else's.

The written word came from the Holy Spirit of God.

Jn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

2 Pe 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The written word is comprised of 66 different books, written by 40 different men, over a period of 1500 years. Most of it was written before the church ever existed. The New Testament was written by special men, inspired of God to give instruction to the church.


I am not with the "OSAS" "limited atonement" or "rapture" crowd( I believe in the 2nd coming)
But let's look at the ERROR that the RCC oral tradition teaches:

Doctrine	When it appears
Prayers to Mary & saints	3rd–4th century
Purgatory	4th–6th century
Papal supremacy	5th–11th century
Immaculate Conception	1854
Papal infallibility	1870
Assumption of Mary	1950

The apostles never taught these. They are idolatrous inventions of corrupt leadership.

Purgatory — Not Biblical​

Catholic tradition teaches souls are purified after death.
Scripture teaches:

• Judgment follows death (Hebrews 9:27)
• Christ’s sacrifice completely cleanses (Hebrews 10:14)
• Believers go directly to Christ (2 Corinthians 5:8)

Purgatory comes from later speculative theology, not apostolic teaching.

The Marian System​

Catholic tradition elevates Mary to:

• “Queen of Heaven”
• “Mediatrix”
• “Co-redemptrix”

But Scripture says:

• One mediator — Christ (1 Timothy 2:5)
• Mary needed a Savior (Luke 1:47)

The Mass vs. the Cross​

Catholic doctrine teaches the Mass is a continual offering of Christ.
Scripture teaches:

• Christ was sacrificed once for all (Hebrews 10:10–14)
• The Eucharist is a memorial, not a re-sacrifice (Luke 22:19)

The sacrificial Mass contradicts Hebrews.

Salvation System​

Catholic tradition teaches:

Grace + Sacraments + Works


Scripture teaches:

Justification by faith alone (Romans 3-5; Ephesians 2:8-9)


Early church fathers overwhelmingly affirmed salvation by grace, not sacramental merit.

Why Rome Defends Tradition​

Rome must defend tradition because:

• Most of its unique doctrines come from tradition
• Without it, papal authority collapses

This is why Trent condemned sola Scriptura.

The above is excellent. I hope any considering the Catholic Church will take the time to read it.
@ArkangeMikail

14But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:14-17

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's funny... Jesus, the disciples and apostles never did anything which the Catholic Church teaches it's members to do.

REALLY?? Anything??

They didn’t teach their followers . . .
- The Jesus is the Son of God?
- The He rose from the dead?
- To trust in Jesus Christ for our salvation?
- To pray for one another?
- To forgive each other?
- to feed the hungry?
- To clothe the naked?

THINK before making such sweeping, ignorant claims.

And remember – if it weren’t for the Catholic church – YOU wouldn‘t even have a Bible unless it fell out of the sky . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The above is excellent. I hope any considering the Catholic Church will take the time to read it.

Ummm - did you read my responses in posts #433 &434 where I completely debunked every one of those points?

I didn't think so . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are no doubt the most misled of Christians on this forum. God bless your little lying butt. You are an abomination.

That’s about the kind of angry response answer I usually get.

I never get a good Biblical or historical argument to the contrary, though . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I pray that your lying badmouthing bites you in the ass. The Catholic church is by far the most benevolent church on earth.
Go fuck yourself in the ass with a handful of fish hooks and please ban me from these fucking demons.

FUCK ALL OF YOU

What a disgusting mouth you have.
Pray for the Lord's forgiveness . . .

 

[Debp]

REALLY?? Anything??

They didn’t teach their followers . . .
- The Jesus is the Son of God?
- The He rose from the dead?
- To trust in Jesus Christ for our salvation?
- To pray for one another?
- To forgive each other?
- to feed the hungry?
- To clothe the naked?

THINK before making such sweeping, ignorant claims.

And remember – if it weren’t for the Catholic church – YOU wouldn‘t even have a Bible unless it fell out of the sky . . .

I was talking about the rituals.

You are no doubt the most misled of Christians on this forum. God bless your little lying butt. You are an abomination.

I pray that your lying badmouthing bites you in the ass. The Catholic church is by far the most benevolent church on earth.
Go fuck yourself in the ass with a handful of fish hooks and please ban me from these fucking demons.

FUCK ALL OF YOU

Stop the fucking condemning badmouthing you fucking idiot!

Sir please watch your language. You are going too far so I am deleting your comments.

 

[amigo de christo]

@snowbound For me personally I don't hate Catholics. After all the Lord teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. And I have had a couple of Catholic friends, including a Sister.

However I was concerned about a former Muslim here. Instead of him getting grounded in the Scriptures, he is relying only on becoming Catholic. So he is going from one set of dogma in Islam to another dogma of Catholicism.

Don't you agree a new Christian should get grounded in the Word of God?

we dont hate we love . thus we warn and correct them .
Ye shall not hate your neighbor in your heart , you SHALL correct him and NOT allow sin upon him .
And as you already know , there is no love in allowing folks to be in places that teach dangerous deadly doctrines .
Even the worship of saints and of angels .
LET No man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary and humility worshipping of angels .
That place is super dang erous , as are some other places . And though they come cloaked in wool
with the appearance of righteousness , man do they teach some dangerous things to this people .
SO , we love and we warn and do all to help them .

 

[Debp]

That’s about the kind of angry response answer I usually get.

What a disgusting mouth you have.
Pray for the Lord's forgiveness . . .

@BreadOfLife And what's interesting is that Snowbound is pro-Catholic. He somehow misconstrued your post and thought you were anti-Catholic!

He sure had a mouth worse than a sailor.

 

[ReChoired]

Can you please give your testimony of being born again and leaving the Catholic Church? Thanks.

I am an ex-Roman Catholic (30 years) having left Roman Catholicism, who once also worked with a specialized Roman Catholic ministry (not to be directly named as it is still around, just not in California any more), which EWTN stated were 'Expert in their field.' My whole family, and near family are 99% Roman Catholics (except one brother with me now, and a few others in their own thing), and my two immediate aunts (father's side, sisters) both worked with the local Bishop in Sacramento, CA, USA, one of whom is now deceased ('June S.'; she coordinated the 'Right to Life' in California, and we helped with thousands of mailings, standing on street corners, &c), and the other (close to dying, retired, suffering heart failure) ran the 'Bishop Gallegos Maternity Home' (Lenore 'aka Dolly' M.), which has since gone downhill after her retirement. I am presently a Seventh-day Adventist (2008-present), of which I had in that same year, upon my knees, called upon the name of the LORD Jesus Christ to be saved from my sins and for the truth to be known, and eventually transitioned from a St. Joseph's ed. New American Bible (still somewhere in this house), to the King James Bible (KJB). It was a process of some months, of diligent prayerful study, research in to the Creation, Crucifixion, and Doctrines of the scriptures that, by God's loving grace and Holy Spirit, led me to where I am now (as also one of my brothers, and still witnessing to the other and my sister as I am able). I have also worked with Amazing Facts Ministry (2008-2017), and been in several states, California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Hawaii, American Samoa, &c. I am an author, and have written several books on varying Bible subjects, as well as many studies, powerpoints, lessons, and teach, preach, evangelize, &c., where / when I am able to do so. As a personal note, I am not against a Catholic (person, per se), as I love my family, and others as such in general, but I am against Catholicism (faith & practices; a theological system of doctrines, practices). So I may be friends with an "-ic", but not with the "-ism"; so loving the "-ic", but hating the "-ism".