Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

[Spiritual Israelite]

@Spiritual Israelite

For the duration of the Millennium, Christ’s glorified brethren (and sisters ) will share in ruling the earth with him.

You're not getting the memo, buddy. I'm trying to politely agree to disagree with you and you're trying to keep the discussion going. I'm not interested. Your arguments are not even a tiny bit convincing to me. Just accept that.

To sit with him on His throne and govern the nations is the promise extended to those who overcome and endure to the end of their probation (Revelation 3:21; 2:26–27). The extraordinary blessedness of those who enter the Kingdom as immortals is emphasized by John, who twice describes the saints living and reigning with Christ as kings and priests for a thousand years within just three verses (Revelation 20:4–6).

The souls of the dead in Christ have been reigning with Christ since He began reigning after His resurrection. You seem to completely disregard the fact that He began reigning long ago already as if that means nothing.

The glorified saints will serve as administrators and mediators of the Kingdom age. They will govern and guide the mortal population in all aspects of life.

Mortal population? What mortal population? There will be no surviving mortals of Christ's return. Period! I'm done with this discussion. Read the following passage and learn so that you stop believing this Premil foolishness.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

The Lord Jesus will be coming in the future as a thief in the night and will burn up the earth. No mortal can survive that. End of story.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You could see the time stamps

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

This will happen at the resurrection

23 But every man in his own order:

Time stamp given!

Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Christ already glorified and at his 2nd coming so will the Saints.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father;

Now Paul introduces the work of that Millennial age.

when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

So, this is the literal and physical fulfillment of what you hold as a spiritual belief...yet to be revealed in the Earth.

Is there something about me telling you that it's pointless to continue this discussion that you don't understand? I'm not going to agree with you about any of this. Ever. Just accept it. I've been studying these things for a long time and I'm not going to change my mind about it. I was a Premil once and changed to Amil and I'm never changing back.

 

[Hiddenthings]

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

Do you believe the entire planet will be destroyed breaking Gods covenant in Genesis 9:8–17?

Surely you wouldn't force those notions on that text. You can't see Peters point here?

 

[Hiddenthings]

Is there something about me telling you that it's pointless to continue this discussion that you don't understand? I'm not going to agree with you about any of this. Ever. Just accept it. I've been studying these things for a long time and I'm not going to change my mind about it. I was a Premil once and changed to Amil and I'm never changing back.

But you can see the time stamps which are clearly marked for you.

I mean you are saying all things have been put under his feet "now" and yet you can clearly read the fulfillment of that truth is not until Christs reign on earth.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Ultimately, Christ’s campaigns to subdue and humble the nations will culminate in the complete subjection of all peoples. As Psalm 72:11 declares, “All kings shall fall down before him; all nations shall serve him.” This will fulfill Revelation 11:15: “The kingdom of the world has become our Lord’s and His Christ’s, and He shall reign for ever and ever”.

With the nations fully subject to Zion’s glorious King, they will be ready to receive the blessings of his reign and guidance. These blessings will touch every aspect of human life, and the ministers of instruction and blessing will be the glorified saints.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Do you believe the entire planet will be destroyed breaking Gods covenant in Genesis 9:8–17?

I don't believe that the planet will be annihilated. I believe the entire surface will be burned up and renewed, resulting in the new earth.

As for Genesis 9:8-17, what are you talking about? God's covenant was to never destroy the earth with a flood again, not that He would never destroy the earth again in some other way.

Genesis 9:15 and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh.

It's clear to me that you really struggle to see the context of scripture.

 

[Hiddenthings]

I don't believe that the planet will be annihilated. I believe the entire surface will be burned up and renewed, resulting in the new earth.

Have another look at how the word heavens is used in Scripture.

I'll leave it with you but for Christ to be King he needs subjects and if they are all gone...well we all have a problem.

Peters words there are highly symbolic.

Leave it there.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

But you can see the time stamps which are clearly marked for you.

Yes, I can. When He comes again that is when the end will come and He will deliver His kingdom to the Father at that time, not 1,000 years later. You are the one not accepting what the text clearly indicates.

I mean you are saying all things have been put under his feet "now"

Hello? Paul said that. I'm just repeating what Paul said.

Ephesians 1:19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 20 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.
22 And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church,

and yet you can clearly read the fulfillment of that truth is not until Christs reign on earth.

I can clearly see that you are misinterpreting the text. I'm saying that all current things are under His feet. Paul said so. Obviously, things that don't yet exist are not yet under His feet. But, once they exist they will also be under His feet. This is exhausting talking to you because I have to spell everything out to you. I don't have the desire to continue doing that.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Have another look at how the word heavens is used in Scripture.

I'll leave it with you but for Christ to be King he needs subjects and if they are all gone...well we all have a problem.

Peters words there are highly symbolic.

Leave it there.

Nonsense. There is no indication whatsoever that Peter is being symbolic in 2 Peter 3:10-12. Absolutely none. I disagree with your Premil belief and will never agree with it. Can you accept that or do you want to just keep this going indefinitely? I have no desire to do that.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Hello? Paul said that. I'm just repeating what Paul said.

Ephesians 1:19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 20 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.
22 And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church,

Did you see the green text?

These are terms used of worldly political rulers (Luk 12:11; Tit 3:1; Eph 3:10; 6:12; 1Pe 3:22).

Paul understands what God has accomplished in Christ and through Christ, but the actual fulfillment of these events will occur in the age to come, that is, during Christ’s reign on Earth.

This is dealing with 1 Thess. 4:14-17 and the work of the Saints in the Earth to fulfill "and He put all things under his feet".

If you can read the context you can see how far forward Paul's mind is applying these truths.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Did you see the green text?

These are terms used of worldly political rulers (Luk 12:11; Tit 3:1; Eph 3:10; 6:12; 1Pe 3:22).

Paul understands what God has accomplished in Christ and through Christ, but the actual fulfillment of these events will occur in the age to come, that is, during Christ’s reign on Earth.

This is dealing with 1 Thess. 4:14-17 and the work of the Saints in the Earth to fulfill "and He put all things under his feet".

If you can read the context you can see how far forward Paul's mind is applying these truths.

You seem to ignore the "not only in this age" part and only look at the "age to come" part. He has all things under His feet now in this temporal age and He will also during the eternal age to come after He delivers His kingdom to God the Father (1 Cor 15:22-28). According to Jesus, the age to come is eternal since no one will die at that point (Luke 20:34-36).

 

[Hiddenthings]

You seem to ignore the "not only in this age" part and only look at the "age to come" part. He has all things under His feet now in this temporal age and He will also during the eternal age to come after He delivers His kingdom to God the Father (1 Cor 15:22-28). According to Jesus, the age to come is eternal since no one will die at that point (Luke 20:34-36).

The existing Mosaic age, the “heavens and earth” of that order was destined to pass away. It would be replaced by the Millennial Age, a second “heavens and earth,” governed by Christ and the saints. Following this, the Kingdom would be delivered to the Father, when God becomes “all in all,” inaugurating the third and final heavens and earth, an age that has no end.

The ultimate fulfillment of what you believe occurs at the end of Christ’s reign, when all things have been literally placed under his authority on the earth.

All the activity of Christ and the saints is directed toward this outcome, for the final enemy to be placed under his feet is death.

 

[Hiddenthings]

The existing Mosaic age, the “heavens and earth” of that order was destined to pass away. It would be replaced by the Millennial Age, a second “heavens and earth,” governed by Christ and the saints. Following this, the Kingdom would be delivered to the Father, when God becomes “all in all,” inaugurating the third and final heavens and earth, an age that has no end.

The ultimate fulfillment of what you believe occurs at the end of Christ’s reign, when all things have been literally placed under his authority on the earth.

All the activity of Christ and the saints is directed toward this outcome, for the final enemy to be placed under his feet is death.

@Spiritual Israelite

Here is a more detailed explanation of the above:

“A New Heaven and a New Earth”: Renewal, Not Replacement

When John writes, “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth” (Revelation 21:1), he is not describing the annihilation of the physical universe, but the transformation of human society under divine rule. This vision is inseparably connected to the scene of the previous chapter, where John observes that “the earth and the heaven fled away” from before the throne (Revelation 20:11). The language is unmistakably symbolic, pointing not to cosmic destruction, but to the removal of an old order to make way for a new and perfected one.

Scripture consistently uses “heaven and earth” as political and covenantal imagery.

This is where @Adventageous study goes astray, and why his identification of the adversary and false accuser in verse 2 is fundamentally incorrect.

Moses calls Israel’s rulers and people to witness using the same language: “Give ear, O heavens, and I will speak; and let the earth hear the words of my mouth” (Deuteronomy 32:1). Isaiah echoes this symbolism when describing societal renewal: “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth” (Isaiah 65:17). These are not astronomical statements, but declarations of divinely ordered governance and community.

The permanence of the literal creation is affirmed elsewhere without ambiguity:

“One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever” (Ecclesiastes 1:4).

God Himself declares that He “created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited” (Isaiah 45:18). A theology that requires the destruction of the physical earth stands in tension with these affirmations.

Revelation 21:1 continues: “For the first heaven and the first earth were passed away.” The Greek word translated first is better rendered former, as it is elsewhere in the same chapter (v. 4). This passing away refers to the former order of things, not the planet itself. Revelation 20:11 makes this clear: the fleeing occurs before the presence of divine judgment. If the literal heavens and earth were incapable of standing before God’s glory, they would never have existed at all, for “the whole earth is full of his glory” (Isaiah 6:3).

The timing is critical. The new heaven and earth emerge after the millennium, when death itself is destroyed: “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death” (1 Corinthians 15:26). Only then can it be said, “There shall be no more death” (Revelation 21:4). This is not millennial administration, but post-millennial perfection.

Paul alludes to this same future order when he speaks of being caught up to “the third heaven” (2 Corinthians 12:2)—not a geographical location, but a vision of ultimate divine rule. Scripture reveals three successive “heavens and earths”:

1. The first—the Mosaic constitution, the Kingdom of God centered in Israel: “Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth” (Isaiah 1:2). This order ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 (cf. 2 Peter 3:7).
2. The second—the restored Kingdom at Christ’s return, for which the apostles longed: “Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?” (Acts 1:6).
3. The third—the perfected Kingdom, when Christ delivers all things to the Father: “Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God… that God may be all in all” (1 Corinthians 15:24, 28).

This final “new heaven and new earth” is not escape from the world, but the healing of it. It is the full manifestation of the New Jerusalem descending from God, not souls ascending to heaven. As Revelation declares, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man” (Revelation 21:3).

The biblical hope is not obliteration, but restoration, order, and life without death. The vision of Revelation is not the end of the earth, but the beginning of the world as God always intended it to be.

 

[Adventageous]

"a thousand years"; aka the "day of the LORD"; Psa. 84:10, 90:4; 2 Pet. 3:8:
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Armageddon - Final Events (2025) video, may be useful to some - Armageddon - Final Events of Bible Prophecy (2025) - Amazing Facts

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Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.​

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Rev 20:3 και εβαλεν αυτον εις την αβυσσον και εκλεισεν αυτον και εσφραγισεν επανω αυτου ινα μη πλανηση τα εθνη ετι αχρι τελεσθη τα χιλια ετη και μετα ταυτα δει αυτον λυθηναι μικρον χρονον​

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Rev. 20:3 Interlinear - Revelation 20:3 Interlinear: and he cast him to the abyss, and did shut him up, and put a seal upon him, that he may not lead astray the nations any more, till the thousand years may be finished; and after these it behoveth him to be loosed a little time.​

"And", G2532, "και", "kai" (CONJ) (also, moreover, in addition to) is a connection word, and it connects the previous verses timing and events thereof, to this event.

"cast", G906, "εβαλεν", "ebalen" (V-2AAI-3S) meaning to "throw, cast, lay, to put, place, deposit, pour, thrust, strike (down) &c." The motion is from a higher position moving to a lower position.

Lucifer / Heylel (aka satan, devil, old serpent, dragon) was once "cast out" (Rev. 12:7-9 KJB) of heaven (where all is light and glory; Rev. 21:25, 22:5 KJB) and eventually fell through "outer darkness" (2 Pet. 2:4; came to) to the earth (Gen. 3:1 KJB).

Satan was later called "the god of this world" (2 Cor. 4:4 KJB), having received dominion (Gen. 1:26,28 KJB) and "power" (Luk. 4:6 KJB) from the first Adam (Gen. 3:5-6; 1 Cor. 15:45; 1 Tim. 2:13 KJB) who submitted to the temptation of the devil through his wife Eve (as medium; Gen. 3:6; Rev. 12:9 KJB), and so became the ruler "of darkness of this world" (Eph. 6:12 KJB), and sits upon the "throne of iniquity" (Psa. 94:20; Psa. 1:1; Isa. 14:13; Amo. 6:3; Rev. 2:13, 13:2, 16:10 KJB. &c.)

He was able to travel from this world as the head representative thereof, and present himself at the gate of God in Heaven (Job 1:6-12, 2:1-7; 1 Kin. 22:19-23; 2 Chr. 18:18-22 KJB). However, since Calvary, the Last Adam, Jesus Christ, obtained the dominion back as the new Head of redeemed humanity (1 Cor. 15:45-47 KJB), and so the devil was "cast down" (Rev. 12:10) from being that representative then (AD 31).

Yet, satan still rules his lost from the "high places" in the earth (Eph. 6:12 KJB). Now, at the end of this present evil world (Gal. 1:4 KJB), Jesus comes the 2nd time, to bind him for 1000 years, and to leave him in "the bottomless pit", or desolated world ("cursed"; Gen. 3:17 KJB; devastated still by the remnants of Noah's flood; Gen. 6-9 KJB; the wars of mankind; Mat. 24:6; Mar. 13:7; Luk. 21:9 KJB; the judgments of God upon sin; Rev. 9:20; the 7 last plagues; Rev. 11:19, Rev. 15-16 KJB; the burning away of the 1st heaven's atmosphere; Isa. 34:4; Mat. 5:18a, 24:35; Mar. 13:31; Luk. 16:17a, 21:33; 2 Pet. 3:10a; Rev. 6:14, and the final greatest earthquake; Rev. 16:18 KJB), emptied of all human life (the righteous taken back to 3rd Heaven with Jesus; Jhn. 14:1-4; 2 Thes. 1:14-18 KJB; and all the wicked living slain; destroyed, laying dead upon the ground; Jer. 4:23-28, 25:15-38; Zep. 1:2-3,14-18; Isa. 2:6-22, 11:4, 24:1-6,17-22, 34:1-16; 2 Thes. 2:8 KJB), whom were brought to death by the brightness of Jesus' 2nd advent. A complete graveyard, with only the fallen angelic hosts remaining in darkness (as the sun and moon will have been moved (shaken) out of their present places (Joe. 2:10, 3:15; Mat. 24:29; Luk. 21:26; Heb. 12:26 KJB), and the stars will not shine for them; Isa. 13:10). this is how "he shall deceive the nations no more", "till the thousand years should be fulfilled", or come to their ending, in which the "many days" (Isa. 24:22), are accomplished, and Jesus, along with New Jerusalem and the saints come back to the earth for the final execution of judgment (Rev. 20:7-15, 21:1-2 KJB).

Isa_24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit [ie. "bottomless pit", Rev. 20:2 KJB, &c.], and shall be shut up in the prison [sealed; Rev. 20:2-3,5a KJB], and after many days [ie. the 1000 years; Rev. 20:2-7 KJB] shall they be visited [in the third Advent, see Zec. 14; &c., cited; & Rev. 20:7-10 KJB]. - Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study​

As for the word “bottomless pit”, as found in the GNT TR of Rev. 9:1,2,11, 11:7, 17:8, 20:1, it is the koine Greek “αβυσσου” (abyssou). In the GNT TR of Rev. 20:3, it is again “αβυσσον” (abysson), which in the transliterated English is the word “abyss”. According to the first use in Genesis, it means the “deep”, being in “darkness”, and “without form and void (empty of / having no life)”, thus is associated with a dark chaotic wilderness / desert (water or earth), symbolic of death / no life. See Origen’s Greek Hexapla: Gen. 1:2, 7:11, 8:2; Deu. 8:7, 33:13; Job 38:16,30, 41:32 (41:24); Psa. 33:7 (32:7), 71:20 (70:20), 71:21 (70:21), 78:15 (77:15), 106:9 (105:9), 107:26 (106:26), 135:6 (134:6); Pro. 8:24; Isa. 44:27, 51:10, 63:13; & apocrypha: Dan. 3:54; Wis. 10:19; Sir. 24:5,29.

As the 6th “day with the LORD” comes to its close, the “night cometh, when no man can work” (Jhn. 9:4 KJB) for the salvation of souls, for the Harvest will have ended, and the greater millennial holy 7th day the Sabbath of the LORD, being the final 1,000 years of this present sinful world’s history, will begin on earth. It will be the darkest hour of earth’s history (Luk. 22:53; Rev. 3:10, 8:1, 17:12; Dan. 3:6,15, etc. KJB) and night down here. - Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

For when the saints enter Heaven, then it will be day, for there is “no night there” (Rev. 21:25, 22:5 KJB), and the closing evening of that final 1,000 years (Rev. 20:1,2,3,4,5,6,7; Isa. 24:22; Dan. 7:22; Rev. 20:4, etc. KJB), the “Day of the LORD” (Isa. 2:12, 13:6,9, 34:8; Jer. 46:10; Lam. 2:22; Eze. 13:5, 30:3; Joe. 1:15, 2:1,11,31, 3:14; Amo. 5:18,20; Oba. 1:15; Zep. 1:7,8,14,18, 2:2,3; Zec. 14:1; Mal. 4:5; Act. 2:20; 1 Cor. 5:5; 2 Cor. 1:14; 1 Thes. 5:2; 2 Pet. 3:10 KJB), will come when, in the 3rd Advent, Jesus, the saints and New Jerusalem come back down to earth (Zec. 14:1-21 KJB).

Isaiah 21:11 KJB - The burden of Dumah. He calleth to me out of Seir, Watchman, what of the night? Watchman, what of the night?​

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Isaiah 21:12 KJB - The watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will enquire, enquire ye: return, come. [Everlasting day comes for the saints, and eternal night for the lost]​

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[Adventageous]

Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.​

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... to be continued ...

QUESTION: SINCE THE “REIGN WITH CHRIST” LASTS FOR 1000 YEARS IN HEAVEN, WHAT HAPPENS UPON THE EARTH FOR THAT 1000 YEARS?

After the earth is hit with the 7 last plagues, the wrath of God, and His fierce anger, and the massive earthquake and the tearing away of the first heaven [the atmosphere], and already having the other curses still upon it from the beginning [massive ocean, that vast water desert, from the global flood of Noah; ice poles, ice deserts/wastes, scorched earth, earthy and sandy deserts], this earth will have returned to a chaotic wilderness, filled with darkness, waters, earth and no life [except for Satan and his angels, the dragon and owls [unclean night birds of the air]], for 1,000 years, and after those "many days", then shall the wicked be visited in their prison, and the final resurrection of the wicked take place. It will in effect, have been brought back to its state/condition as seen in Genesis 1:2, during those 1,000 years, and thus the 'earth', is indeed the 'bottomless' 'pit', just as Isaiah (24) stated:

[A.] Revelation 20:1 - And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

Revelation 20:2 - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,​

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Revelation 20:3 - And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.​

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Revelation 20:5 - But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.​

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Revelation 20:7 - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,​

[B.] Jeremiah 4:23 - I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

Jeremiah 4:24 - I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.​

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Jeremiah 4:25 - I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.​

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Jeremiah 4:26 - I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.​

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Jeremiah 4:27 - For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.​

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Jeremiah 4:28 - For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.​

[C.] Jeremiah 25:15 - For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it.

Jeremiah 25:16 - And they shall drink, and be moved, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them.​

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Jeremiah 25:17 - Then took I the cup at the LORD'S hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom the LORD had sent me:​

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Jeremiah 25:18 - To wit, Jerusalem, and the cities of Judah, and the kings thereof, and the princes thereof, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, an hissing, and a curse; as it is this day;​

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Jeremiah 25:19 - Pharaoh king of Egypt, and his servants, and his princes, and all his people;​

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Jeremiah 25:20 - And all the mingled people, and all the kings of the land of Uz, and all the kings of the land of the Philistines, and Ashkelon, and Azzah, and Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod,​

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Jeremiah 25:21 - Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon,​

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Jeremiah 25:22 - And all the kings of Tyrus, and all the kings of Zidon, and the kings of the isles which are beyond the sea,​

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Jeremiah 25:23 - Dedan, and Tema, and Buz, and all that are in the utmost corners,​

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Jeremiah 25:24 - And all the kings of Arabia, and all the kings of the mingled people that dwell in the desert,​

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Jeremiah 25:25 - And all the kings of Zimri, and all the kings of Elam, and all the kings of the Medes,​

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Jeremiah 25:26 - And all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another, and all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth: and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.​

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Jeremiah 25:27 - Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you.​

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Jeremiah 25:28 - And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye shall certainly drink.​

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Jeremiah 25:29 - For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.​

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Jeremiah 25:30 - Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.​

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Jeremiah 25:31 - A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.​

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Jeremiah 25:32 - Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.​

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Jeremiah 25:33 - And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.​

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Jeremiah 25:34 - Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.​

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Jeremiah 25:35 - And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.​

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Jeremiah 25:36 - A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard: for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.​

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Jeremiah 25:37 - And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.​

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Jeremiah 25:38 - He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger.​

[D.] Zephaniah 1:2 - I will utterly consume all things from off the land, saith the LORD.

Zephaniah 1:3 - I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the stumblingblocks with the wicked; and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD.​

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Zephaniah 1:14 - The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.​

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Zephaniah 1:15 - That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,​

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Zephaniah 1:16 - A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.​

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Zephaniah 1:17 - And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.​

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Zephaniah 1:18 - Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.​

... to be continued ...

 

[Adventageous]

QUESTION: SINCE THE “REIGN WITH CHRIST” LASTS FOR 1000 YEARS IN HEAVEN, WHAT HAPPENS UPON THE EARTH FOR THAT 1000 YEARS?

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... to be continued ...

[E.] Isaiah 2:6 - Therefore thou hast forsaken thy people the house of Jacob, because they be replenished from the east, and are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the children of strangers.

Isaiah 2:7 - Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots:​

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Isaiah 2:8 - Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:​

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Isaiah 2:9 - And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not.​

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Isaiah 2:10 - Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty.​

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Isaiah 2:11 - The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.​

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Isaiah 2:12 - For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:​

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Isaiah 2:13 - And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan,​

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Isaiah 2:14 - And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up,​

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Isaiah 2:15 - And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall,​

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Isaiah 2:16 - And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.​

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Isaiah 2:17 - And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.​

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Isaiah 2:18 - And the idols he shall utterly abolish.​

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Isaiah 2:19 - And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.​

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Isaiah 2:20 - In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;​

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Isaiah 2:21 - To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.​

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Isaiah 2:22 - Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?​

[F.] Isaiah 11:4 - But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

[G.] Isaiah 24:1 - Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Isaiah 24:2 - And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.​

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Isaiah 24:3 - The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.​

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Isaiah 24:4 - The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.​

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Isaiah 24:5 - The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.​

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Isaiah 24:6 - Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.​

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Isaiah 24:17 - Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.​

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Isaiah 24:18 - And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.​

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Isaiah 24:19 - The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.​

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Isaiah 24:20 - The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.​

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Isaiah 24:21 - And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.​

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Isaiah 24:22 - And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.​

[H.] Isaiah 34:1 - Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.

Isaiah 34:2 - For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.​

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Isaiah 34:3 - Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.​

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Isaiah 34:4 - And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.​

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Isaiah 34:5 - For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.​

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Isaiah 34:6 - The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.​

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Isaiah 34:7 - And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.​

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Isaiah 34:8 - For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.​

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Isaiah 34:9 - And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.​

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Isaiah 34:10 - It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.​

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Isaiah 34:11 - But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness.​

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Isaiah 34:12 - They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.​

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Isaiah 34:13 - And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.​

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Isaiah 34:14 - The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.​

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Isaiah 34:15 - There shall the great owl make her nest, and lay, and hatch, and gather under her shadow: there shall the vultures also be gathered, every one with her mate.​

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Isaiah 34:16 - Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.​

 

[Hiddenthings]

Lucifer / Heylel (aka satan, devil, old serpent, dragon) was once "cast out" (Rev. 12:7-9 KJB) of heaven (where all is light and glory; Rev. 21:25, 22:5 KJB) and eventually fell through "outer darkness" (2 Pet. 2:4; came to) to the earth (Gen. 3:1 KJB).​

Where is Lucifer mentioned in the Revelation?
Isaiah 14 is a taunt against the king of Babylon and nowhere in that chapter is a fallen angel mentioned!

I’ve raised these points and questions before, Advent, with those who hold to the fallen-angel theory, and the response is consistently the same: an avoidance of engaging directly with the text of Scripture itself. That’s what I find puzzling.

It’s clear you’re deeply committed to this belief, committed enough, it seems, to reshape the language of Scripture to support it, yet there appears to be a reluctance to let the Word speak on its own terms. If the view of this figure were genuinely grounded in Scripture, then each of these questions should be able to be answered plainly and directly from the text.

As a general observation, many Christians today do not base their beliefs on evidence; instead, they often rely on blind faith.

Some important questions on Isaiah 14 need to be answered:

• Is Satan really accompanied by the sound of viols (or harps, as the RSV translates it) as mentioned in verse 11?
• Is Satan to be covered with worms in the grave (verse 11), or isn’t he rather destined to be cast into the lake of fire, as stated in Revelation 20:10?
• Why would Satan desire a place “in the sides of the north” (verse 13)? What does that mean in his case?
• If Satan is supposed to be a fallen angel, why is he referred to as "the man" in verse 16?
• What land did Satan ever possess that would justify him receiving a dishonorable burial upon its destruction (verse 20)?
• Where are Satan’s people buried (verse 20)? Isn’t the lake of fire described as the final destination for Satan and his followers?
• When did Satan ever rule over a prison and refuse to release its captives, as suggested in verse 17?
• How does a taunt about the King of Babylon apply to the context of Revelation 20?

I can see now that the difficulty in answering these questions isn’t a matter of ability, but of the position being defended. Once an error is assumed, confirmation bias inevitably takes over, every passage is then filtered through a false paradigm. The result is not clarity, but a compounding of misunderstandings, as each interpretation builds upon the last.

Your reply stated with a false inference using a title from Isaiah 14 (Lucifer) which has absolutely nothing to do with Rev 20.

Will you admit to this or continue to post error upon error?

 

[Hiddenthings]

Update on error.

At present, you are unable to substantiate your "heaven-going" assumptions. Any evidence you have offered relies on forced, non-biblical notions and inferences that have no foundation in Scripture.

Points of error currently in your study.

1. The concept of a “third advent” does not appear anywhere in Scripture. Christ and the saints remain on earth until Christ hands over the Kingdom to His Father.
2. You have provided no evidence to support “heaven-going,” not even in the few cases where death is not explicitly recorded, yet Scripture makes clear that all die in Adam, including Christ.
3. Your lack of understanding of the political symbolism is not an error but a significant flaw in your study, one that will become increasingly evident as you progress.
4. This invented 3rd advent which is nowhere mentioned in the Gospels or Epistles must mean you believe Jesus and the Saints are all in Heaven during the 1000-year reign and that Christ and Saints return at the end of the 1000 year period??? Again, no proof text has been supplied to support.
5. Your reference to Revelation 14 is misunderstood. These events take place with Christ reigning from Jerusalem (Mount Zion). The gospel proclamation in the mid-heaven goes out to all nations, so it is unclear how Christ and the saints could be in heaven while proclaiming a message to the nations on the earth. In fact he is enthroned on Davids throne at this time! All 2nd advent events!
6. The Marriage of the Lamb and the Supper take place post 2nd coming prior to Daniels image being smashed (2nd coming) and the nations being grind to powder.
7. Failure to acknowledge Christ was given eternal life by His Father
8. You believe sinners entered Heaven before Christ (through his torn flesh)
9. You consistently assign meaning to symbols without providing evidence
10. You misrepresent symbols and force notions which are not taught in the Bible
11. You introduce the title Lucifer from Isaiah 14 which has not relevance at all to Revelation 20
12. You believe in three heavens and oddly you believe God will destroy His Own Spiritual realm
13. You fail to interpret the Heaven and Earth periods correctly because at the state of this study you did not understand political nature of the prophecy.

You are building error upon error so this prophetical house cannot stand.

 

[Adventageous]

Where is Lucifer mentioned in the Revelation?
Isaiah 14 is a taunt against the king of Babylon and nowhere in that chapter is a fallen angel mentioned!

I’ve raised these points and questions before, Advent, with those who hold to the fallen-angel theory, and the response is consistently the same: an avoidance of engaging directly with the text of Scripture itself. That’s what I find puzzling.

I provided the texts in the response you responded to. Did you not see those references? I shall provide some more again below. Lucifer has many names, even as Jesus has many names. As for instance, see the following, Chapter 45, and the chiastic parallelisms therein: Michael The Archangel Who Is Like Unto God The Highest Messenger (BOOK) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

As for Isaiah 14 (as well as Eze. 28), please consider "the king of Babylon" (Isa. 14:4 KJB) was not really a human king, and the same goes for the "king of Tyrus" (Eze. 28:12 KJB). The human king thereof (Babylon, Nebuchadnezzarr II at the beginning, was possessed of that satanic mind, but who later became saved; Dan. 4, and therefore cannot ultimately be speaking about him; and at the time of its fall was Nabonidus (out of the city on campaign), and co-reigning son (in the city), Belshazzar who actually was killed in the siege by Medo-Persia) was subject to the great principality (Lucifer / Heylel) who actually ruled Babylon (and was the one who withstood Gabriel; Dan. 10:13,20 KJB, and required Jesus Christ to intervene; Dan. 10:13,21 KJB). It also addressess the chief city (Isa. 14:4 KJB), as a king, "Babylon" itself, over other cities (as for instance, see Isa. 7:8 for example).

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!​

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Lucifer / Heylel is specifically said to be "fallen from heaven", even as several other texts provided (Luk. 10:18; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jud. 1:6; Rev. 12:7-13 KJB), and even once a "son of the morning" and even said to be "wiser than Daniel" (Eze. 28:3 KJB). That is no human king, but rather the "god of this world" (2 Cor. 4:4 KJB). Only created angelic beings of heaven are more intelligent and mightier in strength than human beings (Psa. 8:5 KJB). Furthermore, the text states:

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:​

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.​

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.​

No human being can actually do those things that this being is claiming to be able to do in his heart / mind / spirit. Clouds in scripture are angelic beings of Heaven, or heavenly waters (unfallen otherwordly peoples; Psa. 104:3-4; Isa. 14:14; Dan. 7:13; Mat. 24:30, 26:64; Mar. 13:26, 14:62; Luk. 21:27; Act. 1:9; 1 Thes. 4:17; Heb. 11:2,4,39, 12:22; Rev. 1:7 KJB). God's very throne in the 3rd Heaven is on the North (see also the model of the sanctuary on earth, mirroring the one in the heavens; as the Table of Shewbread, representing God's throne in the Holy Place is on the North side, with a place for two, and crowned, &c.) Notice the words "ascend into heaven", after the words "fallen from heaven". No human Babylonian king was ever stated to be a part of Israel to be of the "kingdom of heaven" (on earth), and the only one saved was Nebuchadnezzar II. Humanity is already fallen in sin, especially the pagan nations, and therefore could not ever be said to have "fallen from heaven". The only being that this fits is the fallen angelic being - Heylel / Lucifer / Dragon / Satan / Serpent / Devil / Leviathan / Beelzebub / Scapegoat / &c.

For more on this text, please see Chapter 13 of this book - Sincerely Dead Dying, To Know Jesus by brother Aaron Earnest : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Lucifer was actually once in Heaven (3rd), aka "Paradise of God" (Rev. 2:7 KJB) or "Eden the garden of God" (Eze. 28:13 KJB), as the anointed cherub which covereth (Eze. 28:14 KJB) and was "perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created" (Eze. 28:15 KJB). None of those statements can fit any earthly being / king, nor earthly city, nor earthly kingdom. They also cannot represent any portion of the physical peoples Israel. Notice the word "created". Only Adam / Eve were created among humanity, while all others are born of them. Only Adam / Eve were once "perfect" "from the day" they were created until they had sinned, and all after them have never been "perfect" except Christ Jesus, and even then, his human nature, was of the sinful (fallen) flesh (Rom. 8:3 KJB) though without any stain of sin upon his divine character. However, the fallen rebel angelic being, Lucifer, had been created perfect in Heaven (3rd), until he had sinned, and so fallen, and was eventually cast out.

 

[Adventageous]

... Will you admit to this or continue to post error upon error?

Will you be addressing any of these texts in their timing, and events?

- Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study
- Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study