A Revelation 12 'Meat of the Word' Verse by Verse Commentary (with Cutting-Edge Exegesis)

[Exegesis]

Revelation 12:13 - And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Beginning with the King of Egypt and ending with the King of Rome, the Woman is persecuted for a time, times and dividing of times or 1260 years.

 

[Jay Ross]

Beginning with the King of Egypt and ending with the King of Rome, the Woman is persecuted for a time, times and dividing of times or 1260 years.

Have you considered the connection with the Parable of the Minas in Luke 19:11-27 where the entity with the appearance of a man, when he returned demanded that the servants, i.e. Israel, who no longer wanted Satan to rule over them demanded that Israel be brought in front of Him to be killed before him. No mention has been made in this verse of a time, times and a half as you are suggesting.

 

[Exegesis]

Have you considered the connection with the Parable of the Minas in Luke 19:11-27 where the entity with the appearance of a man, when he returned demanded that the servants, i.e. Israel, who no longer wanted Satan to rule over them demanded that Satan be brought in front of Him to be killed before him.

I'm not sure I understand your interpretation. I will do a quick commentary:

Luke 19:12 - He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

I see the certain nobleman as symbolic of the Old Testament Messiah, or Jesus in the New Testament.

Luke 19:13 - And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

The ten servants are the Israelites that believed and/or were righteous in a general sense.

Luke 19:14 - But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

The citizens are the rest of the Israelites who were not faithful or righteous or perhaps even hated Jesus and did not want him as king. The Pharisees are a typical example.

As for that last servant:

Luke 19:22 - And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

The judgement was not death, but simply to have his pound/mina taken. This is a picture of someone who says they believe, but produce no fruit. They stand a good chance of not being saved, hence:

Luke 19:26 - For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

I don't see how any of that relates to Satan.

As far as the rest of your comment:

No mention has been made in this verse of a time, times and a half as you are suggesting.

I find it a bit ironic because these verses were spoken during the 1290 years, i.e., after Jesus began his ministry at thirty years of age. Thus, the 1260 years (time, times and dividing of time) were already past...

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What is fascinating here is that you helped highlight something I did not notice before:

Luke 19:27 - But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

The above verse is referring to the 1335 date, i.e., the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. It's almost as if Jesus is admitting to what *he* will do in the future to those that rejected him.

And lo and behold, what do we see next?

Luke 19:43-44 - For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

There it is in plain sight. It all connects perfectly.

 

[Exegesis]

Revelation 12:14 - And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

There is so much to unpack in the above verse. I will try and summarize. Thankfully, much of this is redundant and already commented on in the previous posts.

• And to the woman: This is symbolic of whoever has dominion of Her Seed, i.e., the bloodline that leads to the birth of the Messiah.
• ...were given two wings of a great eagle: This is the smoking gun that ties Revelation 12 to the Exodus:

Exodus 19:4 - Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself.

How much plainer could God have made it?

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The fact that so many are unable to see the obvious is very sad indeed.

Note that the eagle's wings are also related to the Ark of the Covenant. The two cherubim are symbolic of the wings:

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The wings are symbolic of what we now call DNA...

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Let us not forget this important verse:

Ezekiel 28:14 - Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.​

Our DNA is corrupt. I will leave it there.

• ...that she might fly into the wilderness: The wilderness can often be symbolic of the womb. The Israelites wandered for forty years, symbolic of forty weeks of pregnancy.
• ...into her place: The bloodline, the Seed of the Woman, the DNA, is placed in the Most Holy Place of the Tabernacle Ovum.
• ...where she is nourished: As we learned earlier, the Tabernacles and Temples are symbolic of Eukaryotic Cells on a typical day, and a Zygote on Yom Kippur:

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The Seed of the Woman is nourished, fed, taken care of, etc. just as the cells in our body are and just like a zygote that has an entire human BODY in one cell.

• ...for a time, and times, and half a time: 1260 years from Moses to Jesus.

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• ...from the face of the serpent.: This will have to wait for a future post.

 

[Jay Ross]

First off, I had made a typo mistake which I have now gone back and fixed.

Have you considered the connection with the Parable of the Minas in Luke 19:11-27 where the entity with the appearance of a man, when he returned demanded that the servants, i.e. Israel, who no longer wanted Satan to rule over them demanded that Israel be brought in front of Him to be killed before him. No mention has been made in this verse of a time, times and a half as you are suggesting.

Thanks for helping me see that typo.

I'm not sure I understand your interpretation. I will do a quick commentary:

I see the certain nobleman as symbolic of the Old Testament Messiah, or Jesus in the New Testament.

The ten servants are the Israelites that believed and/or were righteous in a general sense.

The citizens are the rest of the Israelites who were not faithful or righteous or perhaps even hated Jesus and did not want him as king. The Pharisees are a typical example.

As for that last servant:

The judgement was not death, but simply to have his pound/mina taken. This is a picture of someone who says they believe, but produce no fruit. They stand a good chance of not being saved, hence:

I don't see how any of that relates to Satan.

I feel sorry for you because you cannot see that both the Parables of the Talents and the Minas are about Satan going away into the Bottomless Pit where Jesus reveals that Satan will be giving his servant, before he goes away, money to impede the harvest of souls by God while Satan is imprisoned for 1,000 years in the Bottomless pit.

Rev 12 confirms this if we know how to see the right connections.

Shalom

You sadly have accepted the lie that has now become the tradition of the institution of the "Churches" without know the truth of the matter.

As far as the rest of your comment:

I find it a bit ironic because these verses were spoken during the 1290 years, i.e., after Jesus began his ministry at thirty years of age. Thus, the 1260 years (time, times and dividing of time) were already past...

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From when the Tabernacle was built until the birth of Christ 1,436 years had passed and his ministry began ≈30 years later 1,466 years after the Tabernacle was built and the destruction of the temple happened in the year 1,496 years after the tabernacle was built.

You seem to have some data errors that need correcting.

What is fascinating here is that you helped highlight something I did not notice before:

The above verse is referring to the 1335 date, i.e., the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. It's almost as if Jesus is admitting to what *he* will do in the future to those that rejected him.

And lo and behold, what do we see next?

There it is in plain sight. It all connects perfectly.

The destruction of the Temple and the scattering of the rest of the Jewish nation to the four compass points on the earth was prophesised in 2 Chron 7:12 ff. Christ was referencing this prophecy when he said that the temple would be pulled part, one stonr from another.

 

[Exegesis]

Thanks @Jay Ross for adding your thoughts. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree for now as I am too busy to debate.

I wanted to at least respond to this:

From when the Tabernacle was built until the birth of Christ 1,436 years had passed and his ministry began ≈30 years later 1,466 years after the Tabernacle was built and the destruction of the temple happened in the year 1,496 years after the tabernacle was built.

As I'm sure you know, there has been endless debates on the timing of the Exodus. We have an 'early date' vs. a 'late date' and everything in between...

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I believe the 'late date' is more Biblically accurate and so I am building a case for that.

I get the fact that verses like 1 Kings 6:1 are a problem:

1 Kings 6:1 - And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.

But even the scholars have an issue with the verse being either literal or symbolic. There are those that point out different manuscripts have different numbers, i.e., 480 years vs. 440 years.

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Digging even further, we find very little consensus on how the date can be accurately determined through other verses, with scholars claiming that verse chronologies do not add up.

It is impossible to discover how this date is arrived at, or to make it fit in with other statements of the Old and New Testament.

1 Kings 6:1 Commentaries: Now it came about in the four hundred and eightieth year after the sons of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv which is the second month, that he began

Etc.

 

[Exegesis]

• ...from the face of the serpent.: This will have to wait for a future post.

Some of the symbolism of the Serpent was discussed in a previous thread:

What do Mystery Babylon and the Forbidden Fruit have in common?

They both existed in the Garden of Eden at the same time.

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Here is a brief list of what the Serpent symbolizes:

• Mountain
• Male Reproductive Organ
• Male Seed
• Corrupt Genealogy/Genetics
• Devil/Satan

Given the context of Revelation 12, it is clear that the Serpent is symbolic of the male organ and seed. The entire chapter is about genetics, reproduction, conception, etc. with the idea of protecting the bloodline and lineage that would ultimately lead to the birth of the Messiah. Many wars are fought to protect the Woman, i.e., Her Seed, from being corrupted.

Therefore, the 'face' of the Serpent is the antithesis of Mount Zion:

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The 144,000 are symbolic of the 'flood' of Godly Seed that will follow the lead sperm, aka... Abraham's Seed and 'flow' into the 'gates' of womb of Sarah/New Jerusalem:

Revelation 14:1 - And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.

The 'flood' continues:

Hebrews 12:22 - But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Becoming Born Again is a literal process that God is trying to show you so that you can be trained and ready to take care of the Kingdom of God. Why are Christians still acting like dunces in the classroom and mocking or ignoring this vital part of their education?

Words like 'rock' and 'stone' are euphemisms for male seed and the 'bottom of the mountain':

Romans 9:33 - As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

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Strong's Hebrew: 810. אָ֫שֶׁך (eshek) -- Oppression, extortion

Yeah, that's what is being referred to in this verse:

Jonah 2:6 - I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

God was reminding Jonah of how he was conceived. He was 'vomited out' of eshek and into the womb of the Earth Mother. Get it?

Jonah 2:10 - And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

It's time to grow up and realize what God has been trying to show you your entire life. Can you handle it, or are you going to stay on the baby's milk and believe the fairy tale that Revelation 12 is some 'future event'?

Once all of the symbolism is understood, the natural conclusion is that the 'face of the Serpent' is the 'top of the mountain', the 'exit point' of the phallus in which male seed, the 'flood of ungodly men', is 'vomited out' onto dry land:

Revelation 12:15 - And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

You should know all of this. What does male seed do? It goes after the woman. It goes after Her Seed. Once fertilized, the Zygote is carried away...

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The seed of the Serpent, the 'flood of ungodly men', must not be allowed to fertilize the Tabernacle Ovum of Sarah and all of the other moms that carry Her Seed.

Her Seed is reserved for God to fertilize:

Matthew 1:20 - But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Understand?

 

[Exegesis]

Revelation 12:16 - And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Revelation 12 alludes to the Exodus in so many ways. The Dragon as Pharaoh is one example. Think of the parting of the Red Sea that swallowed the flood of ungodly men that went after the Israelites. The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed:

Exodus 15:12-13 - Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them. Thou in thy mercy hast led forth the people which thou hast redeemed: thou hast guided them in thy strength unto thy holy habitation.

It's so beautiful to see the back and forth references to the past and to those brave souls that lived before us. God put so much effort into all of that so that we could benefit all these years later. It's an absolute marvel.

Too bad there are those that hate the Old Testament so much that they have to force all of this to be 'future prophecy'. How convenient it is for them to claim to 'have it all figured out' because "None of this has happened yet, therefore that makes my belief correct!". They then make false claims about these types of teachings being 'Preterism'. All of the rich and incredible history of the Bible is then thrown into the garbage bin. Nothing to see, move along.

Notice how angry they are all the time? Must really suck to know how wrong they have been and how many people they have lied to for so long. It makes them miserable.

Now then...

There is of course the Kingdom of God Within interpretation, but it's a bits too euphemistic to expand on the details. Hopefully there is enough in this thread to understand that Earth's 'mouth', aka, Mystery Babylon's 'mouth' is symbolic of where seed enters to be planted.

Something like this:

Think of what Earth likes to swallow...

Genesis 4:11 - And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand;

Blood makes her 'fertile'. Get it? She loves to be fertile. She loves seed and dead things.

Numbers 16:30 - But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.

What is the pit?

Isaiah 51:1 - Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.

It's where babies come from. In the context of the above verse, the so called 'pit' is Sarah's womb.

Euphemism people! It is the Meat of the Word for adults. You are not a baby anymore...

Psalms 69:15 - Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow me up, and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.

Study this!

Numbers 16:32 - And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.

Hell is a HER:

Isaiah 5:14 - Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

One day, Earth, aka Mystery Babylon, will disclose all of the blood she drank:

Isaiah 26:21 - For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Understanding the patterns in the Old and New Testaments will help guide you to the Truth of Revelation 12.

 

[Exegesis]

Final verse of Revelation 12:

Revelation 12:17 - And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

For 1260 years, the Dragon did his best to try and corrupt the genealogy that led to the birth of the Messiah. The Old Testament is replete with account after account of how the war progressed.

Her Seed is what this war was all about:

Revelation 12:17 Greek Text Analysis

Who won? Jesus of course.

 

[Exegesis]

Satan is a wicked fallen rebelling heavenly hosts just like the beast and the False Prophet/Little Horn are also.

How many times has he fallen? How many more times will he continue to fall?

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[Jay Ross]

How many times has he fallen? How many more times will he continue to fall?

Until we recognise the true entity type of Satan, the beast and the Little Horn our understanding of their powers and influences will remain hidden from us.

Satan, the Beasts and the Little Horn have no human form like you are suggesting, however because of their spiritual form/nature as heavenly hosts, they are able to influence people, people groups, kingdoms and empires to manifest their respective dominated characteristic.

In the OT, a reference to a mountain is a metaphor for a religious type. The fourth beast of Daniel 7:1-12 has ten horns which also represent 10 different pagan religious types.

The reformation fathers deliberately confused the entity types of the Beasts and the Little Horn so as to demonise the RCC so that they could break away from the RCC.

From my understanding of the scriptures, Satan, the beasts and the Litle Horn are all wicked and fallen heavenly hosts who rebelled against God in Heaven and this battle is still ongoing.

Around the year 2045 AD God will judge the heavenly hosts and the kings of the earth and will gather them together and imprison them in the Bottomless pit for many days, i.e. for 1,000 years to await the time of their final punishment.

Shalom