Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

[Spiritual Israelite]

Thank you

LOL. To be clear, I was referring to this statement you made: "There are many in this forum who think they understand, but when tested, fall short, and rarely admit it.". You are a good example of falling short when tested and not admitting it.

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Spiritual Israelite sometimes insincere compliments backfire - yours was a case in point.

 

[Hiddenthings]

LOL. To be clear, I was referring to this statement you made: "There are many in this forum who think they understand, but when tested, fall short, and rarely admit it.". You are a good example of falling short when tested and not admitting it.

This would be expected from you, but in the context of Douggg’s mistaken assumption, it’s evident that Ezekiel 38 and Revelation 20 describe two entirely different events. The evidence is clear, even for you.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

@Spiritual Israelite sometimes insincere compliments backfire - yours was a case in point.

LOL. What compliment?

 

[Douggg]

Rev 20 reveals the relaxing of restraints,

Revelation 20 - what verse ? - reveals the relaxing of restraints to live a sinful lifestyle ?

 

[Hiddenthings]

LOL. What compliment?

Backtracking already? that didn't take long!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

This would be expected from you, but in the context of Douggg’s mistaken assumption, it’s evident that Ezekiel 38 and Revelation 20 describe two entirely different events. The evidence is clear, even for you.

If Ezekiel 38 is meant to be taken literally, then, yes, the evidence would be clear, but I'm not so sure that's the case. No one can point to any event in history where what is described there happened and it makes no sense to apply it to the future. That's why there's many different interpretations of Ezekiel 38 and 39. If you were honest, you would admit that it's hard to reconcile what is written there with the rest of scripture, especially if you take it all literally.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Revelation 20 - what verse ? - reveals the relaxing of restraints to live a sinful lifestyle ?

I'm intrigued you would ask his question without acknowledging your mistake? You used Rev 20 and applied it to Ezek 28.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Backtracking already? that didn't take long!

Backtracking on what? I clarified what I meant, so what am I backtracking? You are deceptively trying to make it as if I meant something different than what I did. What is wrong with you?

 

[Hiddenthings]

If Ezekiel 38 is meant to be taken literally, then, yes, the evidence would be clear, but I'm not so sure that's the case. No one can point to any event in history where what is described there happened and it makes no sense to apply it to the future. That's why there's many different interpretations of Ezekiel 38 and 39. If you were honest, you would admit that it's hard to reconcile what is written there with the rest of scripture, especially if you take it all literally.

Not at all! the timeline of the prophets, along with all the supporting references from the minor prophets, makes this indisputably clear before the Lord's return.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Backtracking on what? I clarified what I meant, so what am I backtracking? You are deceptively trying to make it as if I meant something different than what I did. What is wrong with you?

Nothing, as I see it, I interpret it. This time, your insincerity was accepted and then exposed. Don’t pretend or plead ignorance... have some sense of self preserving integrity

 

[Douggg]

I'm intrigued you would ask his question without acknowledging your mistake? You used Rev 20 and applied it to Ezek 28.

Typo, I think you mean 38, not 28.

Anyway, I am not using Revelation 20:8 to apply to Ezekiel 38. Revelation 20:8 will take place over a 1000 years after Ezekiel 38.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Revelation 20 - what verse ? - reveals the relaxing of restraints to live a sinful lifestyle ?

When Christ withdraws His dominion in the earth and sin (Satan/ Sin to mean adversary) is once again allowed to roam, sinful living will dominate the earth.

It’s possible that you subscribe to the fanciful idea of an all-powerful fallen angel, which could also obscure the true meaning of the Apocalypse...

Small steps Douggg.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Typo, I think you mean 38, not 28.

Anyway, I am not using Revelation 20:8 to apply to Ezekiel 38. Revelation 20:8 will take place over a 1000 years after Ezekiel 38.

Correct, typo - more pace less haste

Rev 20 happens at the end of the 1000 year reign.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Nothing, as I see it, I interpret it. This time, your insincerity was accepted and then exposed. Don’t pretend or plead ignorance... have some sense of self preserving integrity

What insincerity? I made light of you criticizing a type of people of which include you. That was sincere. I sincerely believe that what you said is something that can be said about yourself. When your many false interpretations of scripture are tested, they often prove to fall short. That describes you very well. I sincerely believe that.

 

[TribulationSigns]

It wouldn't mean the same thing when it is being applied to the lost as it would mean if applying it to Christ. What is your point then, since none of this has anything to do with eating the flesh of anyone saintly, in any sense?

My point is that you have no clues with the verses the Lord talked about. It is because you lacks spiritual understanding.

Rev 19:17-18
(17) And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
(18) That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great

The angel standing in the sun. Who is He? Who are the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven? What heaven is this? And why are they gathering together for the supper? And what is the meaning for eating the flesh of kings, captains, mighty men, horses and ALL men.

And the best answer you came up with your carnal mind, like Douggg's, is...that... well, "these birds are carnivore."

No, you need to do more researching with your Bible. For example:

Revelation 18:2
(2) And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Do you understand who are the unclean and hateful bird here? They are the unfaithful people of the congregation for they have the spirit of Satan deceived by the beast. They call themselves the body of Christ, they have a name that lives, but they are dead. Throughout Scripture, birds of prey gathering over a body represent divine judgment and the certainty of destruction (see also Deuteronomy 28:26; Jeremiah 7:33; Ezekiel 39). It is covenant curse language. It is prophetic imagery. It is NOT a National Geographic scene.

Remember when Christ said, "Wheresoever the BODY is, there will the eagles be gathered together" unto these kings of the Earth, Matthew 24:38, Luke 17:37? Is it literally? Or spiritually? You need to take some time to study and think about it for a while instead of expecting us to accept the idea that Revelation is merely predicting a literal bloodbath of scavenger birds devouring every class of humanity. That misses the spiritual weight of the passage entirely.

 

[Hiddenthings]

What insincerity? I made light of you criticizing a type of people

I know, it’s a shame it was made in a context where truth had been revealed. I have yet to see you correct me on anything in the Word, not that I’m saying I cannot be corrected. The observation is accurate: people need to read the Word more carefully, myself included. Now, if you choose to make light of me and then try to justify yourself after being called out, that’s your prerogative, but your comment has been revealed for what it truly is.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I know, it’s a shame it was made in a context where truth had been revealed. I have yet to see you correct me on anything in the Word, not that I’m saying I cannot be corrected. The observation is accurate: people need to read the Word more carefully, myself included. Now, if you choose to make light of me and then try to justify yourself after being called out, that’s your prerogative, but your comment has been revealed for what it truly is.

You clearly didn't even understand my comment even after I clarified it. I was definitely not complimenting you. Your reading comprehension skills are even worse than I thought.

 

[Hiddenthings]

My point is that you have no clues with the verses the Lord talked about. It is because you lacks spiritual understanding.

@Douggg I don’t believe Tribute is saying this to put you down, but rather to emphasize that understanding the spiritual symbolism is necessary; otherwise, the interpretation will never be revealed.

 

[Hiddenthings]

You clearly didn't even understand my comment even after I clarified it. I was definitely not complimenting you.

I got it the first time which is why I called you out lol.