The Assurance Of Salvation

[Rotsen777]

Our salvation depends solely on the real and forever living Christ Jesus. We get saved (Matt 11:28-29; 19:21) only by and through abiding in and following Jesus unto the end (John 15; Matt 11:28-29; 19:21). But our salvation gets lost the moment we stop abiding in and following the Lord Jesus (John 15:2, 6). Therefore, abiding in and following Jesus unto the end is the only assurance of our salvation.

 

[Bob]

Thank you for your post, and welcome to Christianity Board.

If you like, tell us what brought you here, and tell us a bit about your life in the Phillipines.

Blessings.

 

[Rotsen777]

Thank you for your post, and welcome to Christianity Board.

If you like, tell us what brought you here, and tell us a bit about your life in the Phillipines.

Blessings.

Thanks Bob! The desire to share what we’ve heard and learned from our Lord Jesus Christ [for approximately 14 years] is exactly what brought me here.

The Philippines is a graft-ridden country, plundered by its politicians, who also maneuver its destiny. There’s nothing much to tell about my country, except that we [Filipinos] love peace and hospitality towards our neighboring countries.

God bless!

 

[soberxp]

I believe that only by abiding in Jesus Christ can humanity find salvation, and this is not contradictory to universalism.

Because there is only one path to take, and for anyone, regardless of who they are, walking this path does not mean that those who do not walk it in this world cannot be saved. Rather, we are witnesses in this world, testifying to humanity that this is the only path to redemption—unless someone truly desires to perish completely, which I believe goes against human instinct.

 

[rvmb]

Our salvation depends solely on the real and forever living Christ Jesus. We get saved (Matt 11:28-29; 19:21) only by and through abiding in and following Jesus unto the end (John 15; Matt 11:28-29; 19:21). But our salvation gets lost the moment we stop abiding in and following the Lord Jesus (John 15:2, 6). Therefore, abiding in and following Jesus unto the end is the only assurance of our salvation.

Gal 2:7-9.
Who teaches you the saving Gospel for today ?
Our salvation today is by taught Paul & not the other Apostles.
Acts 9:15.
Gal 2:7-9.
Rom 11:13.
Rom 15:16
Gal 2:6
Gal 1:11-12.
Col 1:23
1 Tim 1:16
1 Cor 15:1-4.
Eph 1:13.
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[Rotsen777]

I believe that only by abiding in Jesus Christ can humanity find salvation, and this is not contradictory to universalism.

Because there is only one path to take, and for anyone, regardless of who they are, walking this path does not mean that those who do not walk it in this world cannot be saved. Rather, we are witnesses in this world, testifying to humanity that this is the only path to redemption—unless someone truly desires to perish completely, which I believe goes against human instinct.

What specific path are you pointing out, and how can we take that path for us to attain salvation and eternal life?

 

[rvmb]

What specific path are you pointing out, and how can we take that path for us to attain salvation and eternal life?

1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13

 

[soberxp]

What specific path are you pointing out, and how can we take that path for us to attain salvation and eternal life?

Obey God's word and be obedient like Jesus Christ, whether God says, "Go, go to the cross," or God says, "You must go to hell," or says, "You need to accept judgment."

Only then can it be credited to us as righteousness.

 

[Rotsen777]

Gal 2:7-9.
Who teaches you the saving Gospel for today ?
Our salvation today is by taught Paul & not the other Apostles.
Acts 9:15.
Gal 2:7-9.
Rom 11:13.
Rom 15:16
Gal 2:6
Gal 1:11-12.
Col 1:23
1 Tim 1:16
1 Cor 15:1-4.
Eph

Sorry, but Paul is long gone; how could he teach you today? Besides, Jesus is the one who saves because He is the Savior, and He is real and forever living. He (Jesus) is the Good Shepherd, and Teacher, who shepherds, teaches, and guides His sheep, all the time, and across all generations.

 

[rvmb]

Sorry, but Paul is long gone; how could he teach you today? Besides, Jesus is the one who saves because He is the Savior, and He is real and forever living. He (Jesus) is the Good Shepherd, and Teacher, who shepherds, teaches, and guides His sheep, all the time, and across all generations.

""Sorry, but Paul is long gone; how could he teach you today?""
In that case how can ANY of the Apostles teach anyone today since they too are all "long gone"
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[rvmb]

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[Rotsen777]

Obey God's word and be obedient like Jesus Christ, whether God says, "Go, go to the cross," or God says, "You must go to hell," or says, "You need to accept judgment."

Only then can it be credited to us as righteousness.

Did Jesus teach vaguely that His disciples failed to understand Him regarding the salvation of their souls? If Jesus, in our view today, clearly taught His disciples on this matter, we all would be coming from His teachings in matters that have to do with our salvation and eternal life, wouldn’t we? But as I see it here now, the doctrine about salvation is polarized, as to its source and emanation from, why is that?

 

[Rotsen777]

""Sorry, but Paul is long gone; how could he teach you today?""
In that case how can ANY of the Apostles teach anyone today since they too are all "long gone"
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If I were to be asked [about the apostles] this plain narrative would be my answer, to wit:

The apostles cannot, in any manner, teach any of us today about the topic of salvation and eternal life because they are long gone, too.

 

[soberxp]

Did Jesus teach vaguely that His disciples failed to understand Him regarding the salvation of their souls? If Jesus, in our view today, clearly taught His disciples on this matter, we all would be coming from His teachings in matters that have to do with our salvation and eternal life, wouldn’t we? But as I see it here now, the doctrine about salvation is polarized, as to its source and emanation from, why is that?

Why did Adam and Eve die? Because they didn't follow God's words. Why did Jesus Christ rise from the dead? Because he followed God's words, even dying on the cross for us.
It's that simple.

 

[Rotsen777]

Why did Adam and Eve die? Because they didn't follow God's words.

The disobeyed God!

Why did Jesus Christ rise from the dead? Because he followed God's words, even dying on the cross for us.
It's that simple.

The Son of God died because he obeyed God regarding the latter’s will for him (Son) on the cross.

 

[soberxp]

The Son of God died because he obeyed God regarding the latter’s will for him (Son) on the cross.

Because we cannot fully obey the Word of God, Jesus Christ has obeyed it in our place. However, we need to understand that we are called to obey the Word of God—our minds can be qualified, but our flesh is always unqualified.

Therefore, Jesus Christ is our Savior.
There will not be a second Savior.

 

[rvmb]

If I were to be asked [about the apostles] this plain narrative would be my answer, to wit:

The apostles cannot, in any manner, teach any of us today about the topic of salvation and eternal life because they are long gone, too.

What verses in the NT teach you about how you will enter eternal life ?

 

[Rotsen777]

Because we cannot fully obey the Word of God, Jesus Christ has obeyed it in our place.

This notion is not in Jesus’ teachings, as written in the bible, is it? Could you kindly lead me to where you have gotten this teaching from? What and who are we to obey to be saved, by the way?

However, we need to understand that we are called to obey the Word of God—our minds can be qualified, but our flesh is always unqualified.

Who called us to obey what for the purpose of being saved always? Could you please specify your phrase, ‘Word of God,’ what is that, in reality?

Therefore, Jesus Christ is our Savior.
There will not be a second Savior.

Agree, 100 %!

 

[Rotsen777]

What verses in the NT teach you about how you will enter eternal life ?

Matt 19:21, the final words of Jesus to the rich young ruler, which says, “COME, FOLLOW ME.”

Matt 11:28-29

 

[rvmb]

This notion is not in Jesus’ teachings, as written in the bible, is it? Could you kindly lead me to where you have gotten this teaching from? What and who are we to obey to be saved, by the way?



Who called us to obey what for the purpose of being saved always? Could you please specify your phrase, ‘Word of God,’ what is that, in reality?







Agree, 100 %!

""What and who are we to obey to be saved, by the way?""
You claim :-
""The apostles cannot, in any manner, teach any of us today about the topic of salvation and eternal life because they are long gone, too.""
So where do you get your teachings about how you will enter eternal life ?