Can LGBTQ individuals be saved?

[rvmb]

'Know ye not
that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived:
.. neither fornicators,
.... nor idolaters,
...... nor adulterers,
........ nor effeminate,
.......... nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
............ Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards,
.............. nor revilers, nor extortioners,
................ shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such WERE some of you:
.. but ye are washed,
.... but ye are sanctified,
...... but ye are justified
........ in the name of the Lord Jesus,
.......... and by the Spirit of our God.'
(1 Corinthians 6:9-110

May God be Praised!

* 'He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and swift to bless.'

and to list what else Paul taught regarding Salvation 'today'
The Gospel -Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Col 1:23
The conditions :-
Eph 2:8-9.
Titus 3:5.
Gal 2:16.
Rom 3:28.
Rom 4:5.
Rom 5:1
Do you get the feeling that saved/justified/sealed 'TODAY' has NOTHING to do with your performance :)

 

[rvmb]

If one claimes not to Sin, is a lie !

What I am on about is The Saved are not Lost.
The Lost are a lost cause in themselves for they do not have a handle on dealing with the gravity of Sin much at all.

Sure we have biggots in the Churches claiming to be above all ? but that's not the issue.

When one is blinded by Sin, that's the problem !

One must understand the nature of Sin to understand the gravity of such.

One can be under the power of Sin because one is Lost !
Or one can be on the ball with such that comes your way etc and that is always lurking or crouching at the door, so one understands it's true but is awake and will repent for the good of all !

A mate rang and put me on the phone to his son, he found out that this new girlfrend is takeing bad drugs and all of the rest ! well best he wash his hands of all that, because such is Trouble ! but he realy liked her and was just so upset !

""What I am on about is The Saved are not Lost.""
Yes, but they still will sin regardless of whether it's accidental or willful.
""well best he wash his hands of all that""
Or let her know & explain the saving Gospel to her :-
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13
When she places her faith/trust/belief in ONLY the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of ALL her sins she IS justified/saved/sealed and will enter eternal life.
Will she continue to do drugs/sin in some way ?
Probably, but regardless she is now & remains eternally saved.
Ask her to pray to Christ about her ongoing sins and to try & lead a life that is pleasing to Him.
Teach her about the Judgement Seat of Christ 1 Cor 3:10-15, 2 Cor 5:10 that applies ONLY to believers saved by 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13.
Warn her though that sin will cause her problems today and if severe enough >>> 1 Cor 5:1-5, 1 Cor 11:27-30 ???

 

[Lambano]

Coming to and following Jesus until the end are the only essential things of salvation.

I'm okay with that. Following Jesus until the end sure looks like faithfulness to me. By grace you are saved, through faith.

 

[rockytopva]

Anybody who has the ability to...

1. Confess the name of Jesus Christ
2. Believe in the heart that God has raised him from the dead

Has the ability to receive salvation (If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9).

Repentance... True repentance... Though... Is a turn about from sin. In which we allow Christ and the Holy Spirit to transform us to new creations.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.- 2 Corinthians 12:17

 

[rvmb]

Anybody who has the ability to...

1. Confess the name of Jesus Christ
2. Believe in the heart that God has raised him from the dead

Has the ability to receive salvation (If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9).

Repentance... True repentance... Though... Is a turn about from sin. In which we allow Christ and the Holy Spirit to transform us to new creations.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.- 2 Corinthians 12:17

""True repentance... Though... Is a turn about from sin.""
You no longer willfully sin ?
Want to take a simple test ?

 

[Wick Stick]

They can be saved just like anyone else. All they have to do is repent and believe the Lord Jesus Christ.

That repentance would take them out of being "LGBTQ," wouldn't it?

 

[rockytopva]

That repentance would take them out of being "LGBTQ," wouldn't it?

And the list would go on and on and on...

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.- Galatians 5

 

[rvmb]

And the list would go on and on and on...

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.- Galatians 5

We ALL STILL willfully sin in some way.
Do you claim or believe you don't ?
If so, I have a simple challenge that will show you otherwise.

 

[rockytopva]

We ALL STILL willfully sin in some way.
Do you claim or believe you don't ?
If so, I have a simple challenge that will show you otherwise.

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. - Jude 1:23

I have had my garments stained with the flesh.... In which I am ashamed. I hate that! I wish I could confess myself the perfect man!

 

[rvmb]

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. - Jude 1:23

I have had my garments stained with the flesh.... In which I am ashamed. I hate that! I wish I could confess myself the perfect man!

We ALL have sinned and still continue to do so in some way.
Gal 2:7-9 - Paul is my Gospel/Salvation teaching Apostle & Minister - Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Jude is not, his audience is not 'today'.
If you disagree, simply list the verses that show Jude has the authority to teach Salvation to the audience of Paul 'today' :)

 

[St. SteVen]

I ran into a Baptist Pastor/teacher and he believes that no one from LGBTQ can ever be saved in Christ. I am just curious what everyone else's biblical stand on this is. Thank you.

I have a couple of topics that address some issues on this subject.

Unethical treatment of LGBTQ humans / Understanding LGBTQ - 101​

WWJD with LGBTQ?​

 

[rockytopva]

If we have issues with the flesh we should deal with it best we can. Even in my own life there are issues with the flesh that come up in which it would be good for me to fast and pray over.

It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: - Hebrews 9:27
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. - Romans 8:13

 

[Taken]

Can LGBTQ individuals be saved?

IMO-

Can ? Yes.
(Same as anyone who has NOT sworn their allegiance to Satan).

(Same as anyone whose true (Heartful) belief is IN God and Jesus)

Glaring Differences AMONG the Saved…
IS: Rewards.

“works are NOT for a man…
TO: Obtain or Keep Salvation.”

“Works are for ONE Purpose…”
TO: Glorify God.

“Regardless of WHO…”
All works that GLORIFY God..ARE… rewarded.
All works that do NOT Glorify God ARE…
burned

Finalizing the End of “HUMAN” existence….
Two Worlds will conjoin (heaven & earth).
One Kingdom…
One King…
One World Government…
And…
A hierarchy of government Servants, “as their Reward shall fill such power-structured positions.”

Few “rewards earned” While a living human…Few rewards Received, when transformed into a new creature.
Gods “indebtedness” for a mans “God glorifying works”…paid in full.

Homosexuals, thieves, cheats, etc. redesigning Gods natural design and upstanding righteousness into a flippant mockery lifestyle…Can be saved by their Heartful Belief…
Yet lose out on receiving an eternity of highly prized rewards.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[rockytopva]

And the list would go on and on and on...

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.- Galatians 5

What if I had a problem with the spirit of variance... In which is interpreted...

Contention, strife, wrangling - G2054 - eris - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV)

And I used the spirit of variance to go about as one that divides, gossips, and stirs up trouble. What am I supposed to do here.... Tell everyone I was born that way? Hey... You guys have got to accept me because I am a born trouble maker!

 

[St. SteVen]

It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: - Hebrews 9:27
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. - Romans 8:13

That's a scary scripture.
How are such things measured?

 

[rockytopva]

That's a scary scripture.
How are such things measured?

I believe a fleshly monster is born in each of us. In which case our parents had to put up with. You see little babies crying for seemly no reason. In that flesh I believe we are responsible to do the best we can to tame the monster that is within...

17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. - Romans 12

 

[Taken]

We ALL have sinned and still continue to do so in some way.
Gal 2:7-9 - Paul is my Gospel/Salvation teaching Apostle & Minister - Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Jude is not, his audience is not 'today'.
If you disagree, simply list the verses that show Jude has the authority to teach Salvation to the audience of Paul 'today' :)

Don’t have any particulars about Jude…

However “Paul” was particularly “appointed” a ministry for Gentiles, Jews and governing authorities

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[shepherdsword]

That repentance would take them out of being "LGBTQ," wouldn't it?

It would keep them from practicing but deliverance would be needed to eliminate the temptation.

 

[Wick Stick]

It would keep them from practicing but deliverance would be needed to eliminate the temptation.

I read an interesting article the other day that seems relevant.

The article correlated the prevalence of several parasites in the human body with homosexuality in men. Correlation may not prove causation, but it sure suggests it.

It was further suggested that using medication to remove the parasites might also change/fix sexual urges. Some parasites are known to change behavior. (The classic example is Toxoplasma gondii causing mice to be attracted to cats, rather than afraid of them).

So.... it's just Ivermectin, again.

 

[shepherdsword]

I read an interesting article the other day that seems relevant.

The article correlated the prevalence of several parasites in the human body with homosexuality in men. Correlation may not prove causation, but it sure suggests it.

It was further suggested that using medication to remove the parasites might also change/fix sexual urges. Some parasites are known to change behavior. (The classic example is Toxoplasma gondii causing mice to be attracted to cats, rather than afraid of them).

So.... it's just Ivermectin, again.

Hmmmm I have never heard of that