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Absolutely. The problem is those who are in control. Unfortunately there are no real Christians in government, finance and entertainment and media that would be able to turn this around and actually honor God's will.

We are at war with Iran because we are no longer a sovereign nation. The last attempt was made with JFK, when he tried to prevent our "boss" from developing nuclear weapons. And you see what happened to him. Now they have over 300 of them and soon they won't need the United States any longer, after the only country standing in the way ( Iran) is neutralized.

There has never been an incident of a terrorist attack in the U.S. by the Iranian government. Ask yourself why we are at war with them.

Sorry, I cannot take your side about your views concerning Iran.

I'm a U.S. veteran and I have a friend that was on board the USS Cole which radical Islam attacked and killed 17 U.S. Navy servicemen. I've been to Iran also when the Shah was a U.S. ally. After radical Islam took over Iran, it has been a major supporter of terrorist attacks against the U.S. and the free nations. And Iran's main support comes from Communist Russia and Red China. And their alignment with Russia (symbolic of Esau) is Biblical (Ezek.38).

Iran has... directly attacked components of the United States. In 1979, Iranian radical Muslims seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran, and held American hostages for over a year. Iran has been a major supporter of Lebanon's radical Hezbollah terrorists. On June 23 Iran launched missiles at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, a forward base for U.S. central command. The list of Iranian involvement in terror operations against Israel and the U.S. is long dating from 1979 to present.
 
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God 1 chronicles 16;15-17 and 36 an psalms 105 and I know there are others. He remembers his covenant forever, the word he commanded for thousands of generations. The covenant he made with Abraham, the oath he swore to Issac he confirmed with Jacob as a decree to isreal a permanent covenant.

But do you... really know... who God's Israel really is per His Word that He made the covenants with? Do you know which ones they are today?

Read closely what Lord Jesus said to those of the Church of Smyrna, one of His elect Churches...

Rev 2:8-9
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; "These things saith the first and the last, Which was dead, and is alive;

9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich)
and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
KJV

Jesus pointed to foreigners among Israel that were not of the seed, but had crept in among them, especially among Judah. Those foreigners claim... to be Jews, but are not.

Furthermore, the Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.) said the title of JEW is the name the remnant that returned to Jerusalem from the Babylon captivity used for themselves, including the foreigners that returned to Jerusalem with them. That title only applies to the 3 tribe southern "kingdom of Judah" after the split of old Israel by God in 1 Kings 11.

The majority of the seed of Israel, the northern ten tribes, had already been removed from the holy land by the kings of Assyria, and Josephus even said in his day the ten tribes were still scattered beyond the Euphrates river, and were a great number of people. 2 Kings 17 speaks of this, and even that only the "house of Judah" (JEWS) were left in the holy land. The ten tribes were lost.

Yet God showed through His prophets the future gathering back in final by Christ of the northern ten tribe "house of Israel" joined with the Jews of the "house of Judah"; this per the Ezekiel 37 chapter. So why can't brethren in Christ ADMIT God's written Word about this??
 
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God 1 chronicles 16;15-17 and 36 an psalms 105 and I know there are others. He remembers his covenant forever, the word he commanded for thousands of generations. The covenant he made with Abraham, the oath he swore to Issac he confirmed with Jacob as a decree to isreal a permanent covenant.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Malachi, and any other person from the Old Testament ( there weren't just jews in the OT) who trusted in God is in the New Covenant, covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. It's not hard to understand when you realize that Christ is before all things.
 

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Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Malachi, and any other person from the Old Testament ( there weren't just jews in the OT) who trusted in God is in the New Covenant, covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. It's not hard to understand when you realize that Christ is before all things.
many seem to forget , or never knew
THE PROMISE GIVEN unto the Fathers . take a guess at what WHO this promise is .......
paul spoke of him .
JESUS THE CHRIST . It wont matter what suit a man was born in , whether jew or whether gentile .
THEY will all wail on the DAY OF THE LORD if they rejejct HIS CHRIST .
THERE IS No special plan for just the jews .
THERE WAS ALWAYS ONE PLAN for the jew and gentile , FOR THE WORLD and her nations .
JESUS THE CHRIST . And its about high time this gene ration woke up to that fact fast .
JESUS was before anything that even created was
And all was for ordained by GOD . The law was but for a time until the PROMISE came .
The earthen temple patterend after the heavenly , but NOT THE HEAVENLY
was only for a time .
TILL THE FULLFILLER OF ALL THINGS , HE who had to finish the works , to complete
TO ENTER INTO THE VERY HEAVENLY ITSELF . WHERE IN
ITS ONE KINGDOM , HEAVENLY , GOD and the LAMB are the temple .
ONE FOLD consisting of BELEIVERS in CHRIST.
ONE nation and it aint earthern either . ONE mount zion .
For ye have come unto MOUNT ZION and the HEAVENLY JERSUALEM .
THAT WAS the PLAN OF GOD . the flesh will profit no man whether jew or gentile .
And again its about high time we g ot real busy reminding folks about this
 

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Sorry, I cannot take your side about your views concerning Iran.

I'm a U.S. veteran and I have a friend that was on board the USS Cole which radical Islam attacked and killed 17 U.S. Navy servicemen. I've been to Iran also when the Shah was a U.S. ally. After radical Islam took over Iran, it has been a major supporter of terrorist attacks against the U.S. and the free nations. And Iran's main support comes from Communist Russia and Red China. And their alignment with Russia (symbolic of Esau) is Biblical (Ezek.38).

Iran has... directly attacked components of the United States. In 1979, Iranian radical Muslims seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran, and held American hostages for over a year. Iran has been a major supporter of Lebanon's radical Hezbollah terrorists. On June 23 Iran launched missiles at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, a forward base for U.S. central command. The list of Iranian involvement in terror operations against Israel and the U.S. is long dating from 1979 to present.
You said: " The list of Iranian involvement in terror operations against Israel and the U.S. is long dating from 1979 to present".

That's not true. There have been no terrorist attacks in this country that can be directly traced back to Iran. Otherwise we would have done something about it.

This government is desperately trying to justify an all out war with the last country that stands in the way of Israel having full control of the Middle East. We have officially surrendered our sovereignty way back when the last president willing to take a stand was assassinated.
 
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many seem to forget , or never knew
THE PROMISE GIVEN unto the Fathers . take a guess at what WHO this promise is .......
paul spoke of him .
JESUS THE CHRIST . It wont matter what suit a man was born in , whether jew or whether gentile .
THEY will all wail on the DAY OF THE LORD if they rejejct HIS CHRIST .
THERE IS No special plan for just the jews .
THERE WAS ALWAYS ONE PLAN for the jew and gentile , FOR THE WORLD and her nations .
JESUS THE CHRIST . And its about high time this gene ration woke up to that fact fast .
JESUS was before anything that even created was
And all was for ordained by GOD . The law was but for a time until the PROMISE came .
The earthen temple patterend after the heavenly , but NOT THE HEAVENLY
was only for a time .
TILL THE FULLFILLER OF ALL THINGS , HE who had to finish the works , to complete
TO ENTER INTO THE VERY HEAVENLY ITSELF . WHERE IN
ITS ONE KINGDOM , HEAVENLY , GOD and the LAMB are the temple .
ONE FOLD consisting of BELEIVERS in CHRIST.
ONE nation and it aint earthern either . ONE mount zion .
For ye have come unto MOUNT ZION and the HEAVENLY JERSUALEM .
THAT WAS the PLAN OF GOD . the flesh will profit no man whether jew or gentile .
And again its about high time we g ot real busy reminding folks about this
Well Amen to that.
 

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many seem to forget , or never knew
THE PROMISE GIVEN unto the Fathers . take a guess at what WHO this promise is .......
paul spoke of him .
JESUS THE CHRIST . It wont matter what suit a man was born in , whether jew or whether gentile .
THEY will all wail on the DAY OF THE LORD if they rejejct HIS CHRIST .
THERE IS No special plan for just the jews .
THERE WAS ALWAYS ONE PLAN for the jew and gentile , FOR THE WORLD and her nations .
JESUS THE CHRIST . And its about high time this gene ration woke up to that fact fast .
JESUS was before anything that even created was
And all was for ordained by GOD . The law was but for a time until the PROMISE came .
The earthen temple patterend after the heavenly , but NOT THE HEAVENLY
was only for a time .
TILL THE FULLFILLER OF ALL THINGS , HE who had to finish the works , to complete
TO ENTER INTO THE VERY HEAVENLY ITSELF . WHERE IN
ITS ONE KINGDOM , HEAVENLY , GOD and the LAMB are the temple .
ONE FOLD consisting of BELEIVERS in CHRIST.
ONE nation and it aint earthern either . ONE mount zion .
For ye have come unto MOUNT ZION and the HEAVENLY JERSUALEM .
THAT WAS the PLAN OF GOD . the flesh will profit no man whether jew or gentile .
And again its about high time we g ot real busy reminding folks about this
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No, there is no special plan for just the jews. If professing Christians understood this they would lose their support and it might be easier to remove them from power. But then again, it appears to be the plan. Once they ( we) neutralize Iran, no one will be able to stop them from controlling the Middle East. That way when satan ( their messiah) is being worshipped there will be no opposition. That's my theory.
 
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That's not true. There have been no terrorist attacks in this country that can be directly traced back to Iran. Otherwise we would have done something about it.

You can't just try... and limit Iran's attacks upon the U.S. to the American soil.

And yes, there have been many attacks by Iran upon the U.S., because when another nation attacks the American people, wherever they are in the world, that is an attack upon the whole U.S. nation. And didn't you know, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran which Iran in 1979 took American hostages for over a year, is agreed internationally as American soil? Same thing with foreign embassies on American soil.
 
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Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Malachi, and any other person from the Old Testament ( there weren't just jews in the OT) who trusted in God is in the New Covenant, covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. It's not hard to understand when you realize that Christ is before all things.
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many seem to forget , or never knew
THE PROMISE GIVEN unto the Fathers . take a guess at what WHO this promise is .......
paul spoke of him .
JESUS THE CHRIST . It wont matter what suit a man was born in , whether jew or whether gentile .
THEY will all wail on the DAY OF THE LORD if they rejejct HIS CHRIST .
THERE IS No special plan for just the jews .
THERE WAS ALWAYS ONE PLAN for the jew and gentile , FOR THE WORLD and her nations .
JESUS THE CHRIST . And its about high time this gene ration woke up to that fact fast .
JESUS was before anything that even created was
And all was for ordained by GOD . The law was but for a time until the PROMISE came .
The earthen temple patterend after the heavenly , but NOT THE HEAVENLY
was only for a time .
TILL THE FULLFILLER OF ALL THINGS , HE who had to finish the works , to complete
TO ENTER INTO THE VERY HEAVENLY ITSELF . WHERE IN
ITS ONE KINGDOM , HEAVENLY , GOD and the LAMB are the temple .
ONE FOLD consisting of BELEIVERS in CHRIST.
ONE nation and it aint earthern either . ONE mount zion .
For ye have come unto MOUNT ZION and the HEAVENLY JERSUALEM .
THAT WAS the PLAN OF GOD . the flesh will profit no man whether jew or gentile .
And again its about high time we g ot real busy reminding folks about this
Well said. Christ for the nations
 
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You can't just try... and limit Iran's attacks upon the U.S. to the American soil.

And yes, there have been many attacks by Iran upon the U.S., because when another nation attacks the American people, wherever they are in the world, that is an attack upon the whole U.S. nation. And didn't you know, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran which Iran in 1979 took American hostages for over a year, is agreed internationally as American soil? Same thing with foreign embassies on American soil.
" Many" attacks? If it was " many", we would have done something about it a long time ago.

I'm not trying to make Iran out to be a perfectly innocent country (no country is). However, they are not the threat that this current administration is trying to make them out to be. They do not pose a threat to the U.S. with their missiles. They do not have nuclear weapons capabilities, since their facilities been destroyed.last year. Most of our "terror" activity is fabricated by the CIA. If Iran was culprit we would have heard about it and it would have been dealt with. The hostage crisis? Please. That occurred OVER 40 YEARS AGO.

WE ARE SLAVES TO THE jEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL.That's why we are there. And soon there will be combat troops dying for their " greater Israel" policy, advanced speedily after nine elevenstein.
 
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No, there is no special plan for just the jews. If professing Christians understood this they would lose their support and it might be easier to remove them from power. But then again, it appears to be the plan. Once they ( we) neutralize Iran, no one will be able to stop them from controlling the Middle East. That way when satan ( their messiah) is being worshipped there will be no opposition. That's my theory.
luther i dont know how you drew that conclusion from what i wrote .
I said there was no special plan . Reread again .
 
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" Many" attacks? If it was " many", we would have done something about it a long time ago.

I'm not trying to make Iran out to be a perfectly innocent country (no country is). However, they are not the threat that this current administration is trying to make them out to be. They do not pose a threat to the U.S. with their missiles. They do not have nuclear weapons capabilities, since their facilities been destroyed.last year. Most of our "terror" activity is fabricated by the CIA. If Iran was culprit we would have heard about it and it would have been dealt with. The hostage crisis? Please. That occurred OVER 40 YEARS AGO.

WE ARE SLAVES TO THE jEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL.That's why we are there. And soon there will be combat troops dying for their " greater Israel" policy, advanced speedily after nine elevenstein.

Iran is a what I'd call a 'medium' level threat to the Free Nations, especially the Christian west.

It is Communist Russia and Red China which support... Iran's terrorist activities and nuclear program that are the main threat.

As far as protecting Israel, that is a Christian duty, even though the majority of Jews there still reject Lord Jesus Christ. Yet anyone who can read The Bible, can learn from Apostle Paul in Romans 11 about their spiritual blindness away from The Gospel which God put upon them during this world so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles, AND... that God is going to remove their blindness once the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. And then Paul said ALL ISRAEL shall be saved, for God will not go back on His having chosen them Paul said. Thus judge nothing before the time, because if God puts the spirit of blindness upon someone, it means they are not yet accountable. Only once their blindness is removed, and then they make their own choice, can they be held accountable. It will be this way also for many non-believers, and also for many 'deceived' Christian brethren which God has also blinded about the coming false-Messiah who will play Lord Jesus.
 

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Iran is a what I'd call a 'medium' level threat to the Free Nations, especially the Christian west.

It is Communist Russia and Red China which support... Iran's terrorist activities and nuclear program that are the main threat.

As far as protecting Israel, that is a Christian duty, even though the majority of Jews there still reject Lord Jesus Christ. Yet anyone who can read The Bible, can learn from Apostle Paul in Romans 11 about their spiritual blindness away from The Gospel which God put upon them during this world so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles, AND... that God is going to remove their blindness once the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. And then Paul said ALL ISRAEL shall be saved, for God will not go back on His having chosen them Paul said. Thus judge nothing before the time, because if God puts the spirit of blindness upon someone, it means they are not yet accountable. Only once their blindness is removed, and then they make their own choice, can they be held accountable. It will be this way also for many non-believers, and also for many 'deceived' Christian brethren which God has also blinded about the coming false-Messiah who will play Lord Jesus.
What is the greater threat
Is it china , is it russia
OR IS IT THE SECOND death .
And oh yeah there is a huge reason i remind us of this .
THEY are deceiving us yet again .
OH we have to WIN the digital race AI race against them . oh we must they say , OH WE MUST
AND YET what folks seem to not realize is
WHOSE GOAL was it to get THE WHOLE WORLD , as in china russia and the west INTO A DIGITAL SYSTEM .
OH MY , OH ME , IT WAS THE AG ENDA OF THE ONE WORLD GOVT .
THEY ARE using fear tatics ,
they are using convinence
THEY are using any means available TO Get us all into such a system. TO TRUST in such a system
And guess who is really behind it all
IF YA SAID SATAN , you would be correct . And HE gives him his power and his seat and All authority
over all nations . That ol red dragon has not been sleeping .
IN FACT he has been wearing more than prada my friend . HIMS been cloaking himself IN WOOL too .
 

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Iran is a what I'd call a 'medium' level threat to the Free Nations, especially the Christian west.

It is Communist Russia and Red China which support... Iran's terrorist activities and nuclear program that are the main threat.

As far as protecting Israel, that is a Christian duty, even though the majority of Jews there still reject Lord Jesus Christ. Yet anyone who can read The Bible, can learn from Apostle Paul in Romans 11 about their spiritual blindness away from The Gospel which God put upon them during this world so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles, AND... that God is going to remove their blindness once the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. And then Paul said ALL ISRAEL shall be saved, for God will not go back on His having chosen them Paul said. Thus judge nothing before the time, because if God puts the spirit of blindness upon someone, it means they are not yet accountable. Only once their blindness is removed, and then they make their own choice, can they be held accountable. It will be this way also for many non-believers, and also for many 'deceived' Christian brethren which God has also blinded about the coming false-Messiah who will play Lord Jesus.
The biggest most deadly , most dangerous threat to humanity
IS the one who cometh as a friend , as one who appears to love , and YET COMES ONLY TO DECIEVE .
That be the devil himself .
And there simply is no escape from his power , from his influence
SAVE JESUS THE CHRIST . THUS that HAS THE BE THE MISSION NOW .
yet it has always been the mission of the saints .
Soon men like me
SOON the sheep who conformed not but rather warned and exposed
WILL BE SEEN as the enemy OF THE ENTIRE WORLD , and of every nation
EVEN seen as the enemy of the god upon whom they see as GOD and as LOVE .
And there be a HUGE reason why i did not captilize that god they see as GOD and as love and as the savoir
of humanity , as the one who can save this world and give it peace. BEcAUSE IT IS OF ANTI CHRIST . it is not GOD
ITS NOT OF CHRIST , it of satan .
 

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Iran is a what I'd call a 'medium' level threat to the Free Nations, especially the Christian west.

It is Communist Russia and Red China which support... Iran's terrorist activities and nuclear program that are the main threat.

As far as protecting Israel, that is a Christian duty, even though the majority of Jews there still reject Lord Jesus Christ. Yet anyone who can read The Bible, can learn from Apostle Paul in Romans 11 about their spiritual blindness away from The Gospel which God put upon them during this world so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles, AND... that God is going to remove their blindness once the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. And then Paul said ALL ISRAEL shall be saved, for God will not go back on His having chosen them Paul said. Thus judge nothing before the time, because if God puts the spirit of blindness upon someone, it means they are not yet accountable. Only once their blindness is removed, and then they make their own choice, can they be held accountable. It will be this way also for many non-believers, and also for many 'deceived' Christian brethren which God has also blinded about the coming false-Messiah who will play Lord Jesus.
Do not let folks convince you that i am the enemy . BUT and this is a big butt
YOU must test all that i say as well . but it has to be done
NOT by pastors , not by scholars , not by emotions but by THE SCRIPS .
This sheep has the mindset , LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
THUS E VERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH and if one cometh and preaches anything contrary , WELL they the liar , NOT GOD .
 
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Do not let folks convince you that i am the enemy . BUT and this is a big butt
YOU must test all that i say as well . but it has to be done
NOT by pastors , not by scholars , not by emotions but by THE SCRIPS .
This sheep has the mindset , LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
THUS E VERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH and if one cometh and preaches anything contrary , WELL they the liar , NOT GOD .
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Well said. Christ for the nations
Which of course INCLUDES the nation of israel .
There lived a man long ago , a leader of israel
who had come to JESUS in the night .
And jesus told this jew named nichodemus
YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN , the flesh profits nothing .
Later this same JESUS would tell
the unbeleiving jews , WHO CLAIMED GOD was their father
that your father is satan .
IF a man , whether jew or gentile rejects GOD , oh beleive me they do SO UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION .
THUS IF one rejects JESUS, BELIEVE YOU ME they DO SO UNTO their own destuction .
GOD WILL NOT BE DENIED .
And all who do so will pay the price in the lake that burns with fire .
AND if one rejects JESUS , OH BELEIVE ME YET AGAIN , THEY HAVE REJECTED GOD .
In fact allow me to remind us of what john , who often spoke of love , had to say .
IF a man BELIE VES NOT the testimony that GOD gave OF THE SON
THEY BE CALLING GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF , A FAT LIAR . I sure hope that helps to clear up some things .
 
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The biggest most deadly , most dangerous threat to humanity
IS the one who cometh as a friend , as one who appears to love , and YET COMES ONLY TO DECIEVE .
That be the devil himself .
And there simply is no escape from his power , from his influence
SAVE JESUS THE CHRIST . THUS that HAS THE BE THE MISSION NOW .
yet it has always been the mission of the saints .
Soon men like me
SOON the sheep who conformed not but rather warned and exposed
WILL BE SEEN as the enemy OF THE ENTIRE WORLD , and of every nation
EVEN seen as the enemy of the god upon whom they see as GOD and as LOVE .
And there be a HUGE reason why i did not captilize that god they see as GOD and as love and as the savoir
of humanity , as the one who can save this world and give it peace. BEcAUSE IT IS OF ANTI CHRIST . it is not GOD
ITS NOT OF CHRIST , it of satan .
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