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Of the three divisions of humanity which are given by the Apostle Paul, namely, the Jews, the Gentles and the Church of God (1Co 10:32), the first and third represent the two major purposes of God—the earthly purpose centered in the Jews (Jews who believe in God but not the Lord Jesus - Jn 14:1—NC) and the heavenly purpose centered in the Church.

Though they are in evidence from the beginning of human history, and though privileged as individuals to respond to the message of saving grace and be included in the Church, and though some of them are to share with Israel the unending kingdom glory (Rom 15:9-12—NC), the Gentiles represent no specific and independent divine purpose; yet their distinctive identity as Gentile (Christians—NC) is preserved and their future may be traced into eternity.

These numerous predictions respecting the Gentiles are scattered throughout the Bible; but to Daniel is given the complete preview of the history of the Gentiles, beginning with the Jews’ captivity and running on into the kingdom dispensation. The period between the captivity and the second advent of Christ is named by him “the times of the Gentiles” (when the last Gentile will be saved, i.e. the fullness of the Gentiles—NC), and its peculiar identification is the fact that, throughout its duration, Jerusalem will be trodden down of the Gentiles.

The passage reads, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled” (Luk 21:24). No mere fortuitous selection of Jerusalem as the location of this prophetic sign is made by Christ (not a coincidence—NC)—such as might fall upon any city. The significance is to be seen in the particular character of Jerusalem, which is singled out above all the cities of the earth. It is the national center of the chosen, eternal people.

It is “the city of the great King” (Psa 48:2; Mat 5:35), the theme of marvelous predictions, the location of David’s eternal throne (2Sa 7:16), and the center of divine government in the coming millennial kingdom. From Jerusalem shall the whole world be governed (Isa 2:3, 4; Eze 48:35). The disclosure is made by Christ that as long as God’s purpose with Israel is in abeyance, Jerusalem will be permitted to be “trodden down of the Gentiles” (“until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled”); but when Jehovah again claims Jerusalem, the Gentiles are not only to be driven from that city, but the whole Gentile period will come to its end (Rev 11:2).

Gentiles have never contemplated Jerusalem as the center of their world-governments. That city means no more to them than any other city of the past. World empires have centered in Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome; Rome will yet be a restored world-dominion, the continuation of that which was in existence when this present dispensation was thrust in. Strictly speaking, this Church age is not a part or development of the Gentile times.

Though the times of the Gentiles had actually begun, Daniel was, in his long lifetime, given to experience three far-reaching visions of those times. Apart from certain warnings which had been given, the future to the instructed Jew consisted in the continued progress of events leading to the realization of all his earthly glory as anticipated in his covenants and promises. Therefore, apart from a distinct divine revelation, the intrusion of a Gentile period could create only perplexity.

In Gentile times the question must be answered as to what has become of the revealed divine program respecting Israel and the whole world through that people. The question is not answered by the implication that God has changed His mind respecting Israel. His covenants, being unconditional and everlasting, are immutable (“irrevocable” Rom 11:29—NC). However, divine right to delay their fulfillment in the interests of chastisement was reserved (2 Sam 7:14; Psa 89:20, 30-37).

Daniel, who was by the providence of God pressed into a high place in Gentile dominion, which he held for more than seventy years, was especially fitted to receive and transmit the Word of God respecting the course and end of those Gentile times which began with his captivity in Babylon. To him it was given to see from his own day to the cutting off the Messiah and on to the time when the Messiah would take His everlasting throne (Dan 2:44, 45; 7:13, 14), and every covenant would be fulfilled.

Thus Daniel accounts for Gentile times that were being inserted as an intercalation in the predicted program for Israel. When, later on and following the death of Christ, a Church intercalation is added to these Gentile times, the announcement of it is intimated by Christ but is committed in its full revelation by the Apostle Paul. However, neither the first setting aside of Israel’s program for Gentile times, nor the second setting aside of Gentiles for the dispensation of the Church, has cast so much as a shadow over the certainty that God will yet in His own faithfulness fulfill every covenant promise to His chosen people Israel.

By three major visions, which are amplified by lesser visions, Daniel foresaw the times of the Gentiles, which had already begun and which, apart from revelation, must perplex the Jew who had before his eyes the covenants and promises of Israel. Naturally the question arises, in view of the setting aside of Israel’s program and the intrusion of Gentile dominion, what has become of that unchangeable, eternal and divine favor upon Israel?

In all three major visions, Daniel saw the Gentile times through to the consummation and the final realization of Messiah’s kingdom and the fulfillment of every promise to Israel. However, it cannot be emphasized too strongly that Daniel did not see the intercalation period of the Church which would intervene between the two advents of Christ—a period which, as has been indicated, is an intrusion into Gentile times, is not the end of Gentile times; rather it is seen to be an added delay in the realization of the major divine purpose for Israel.

Thus when the Church dispensation with its unprecedented features is later introduced it is explained by the church council in Jerusalem, as a delay in Israel’s program. Here it should be pointed out that the Church age, though unrelated to the times of the Gentiles, is not the end of Gentile times. Those times extend six hundred before the Church dispensation and must be renewed and taken up again for a period of seven years after that dispensation.

It cannot be made too emphatic that God’s earthly purpose centers in the Jew, and that, apart from the interruption of a Gentile period which is itself interrupted by the Church dispensation, there would be only the direct outworking and development to fulfillment of every Israeli covenant.

Daniel is chosen of God to explain the intrusion of Gentile times into Israel’s calendar, and Christ and Paul explain the intrusion of the dispensation of the Church into the Gentile and Jewish times. Paul’s explanation is found in Romans 9-11; and the first church council was convened at Jerusalem to determine this same fact in Acts 15:13-18. These interruptions, or intercalations, in no way jeopardize the primary earthly purpose of Israel (the God-believing Jews inherit the New Earth; and the Christians, the New Heaven—NC.

—L S Chafer (1871-1952)





MJS daily devotional excerpt

“There are earnest Christians who are jealous for a free Gospel, with acceptance of Christ, and justification by faith alone. But after this they think everything depends on their diligence and faithfulness. While they firmly grasp the truth, ‘justified by faith,’ they have hardly noticed the larger truth, ‘the just shall live by faith.’ They have not yet understood what a perfect Savior the Lord Jesus is, and how He will each day do for the sinner just as much as He did the first day when they came to Him.

“They know not that the life of grace is always and only a life of faith, and that in the relationship to the Lord Jesus the one daily and unceasing duty of the disciple is to believe, because believing is the one channel through which Divine grace and strength can flow into the heart of man. The old nature of the believer remains evil and sinful to the last; it is only as he daily comes, all empty and helpless, to his Savior to receive of His life and strength, that he can bring forth the fruits of righteousness to the glory of God.”
–Andrew Murray (1828-1917)
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I hate to break it to you below, seeing as how you have been spiritually soaked into men's false theories of John Nelson Darby's pre-trib rapture Dispensationalism.

But... Christ's Church is who will reign over ALL nations during His future Millennium reign, and His Church is made up of BOTH believing Israelites AND believing Gentiles. Those Gentiles, the ethnos, will also be made kings and priests according to God's Promise.

Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sung a new song, saying, "Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for Thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us to God by Thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
KJV

Darby's attempt to separate the nation of Israel from Christ's Church is not Biblical. Your Bible reveals this too, because when God split the old nation of Israel in Solomon's days, He setup one of Ephraim over a portion of the children of Israel that would become scattered to the west, and be the foundation of the western Christian nations, fulfilling the "multitude of nations" prophecy about Ephraim (Gen.48). This means the ten scattered tribes of Israel, and a remnant of believing Judah, along with Gentiles, would become the foundation of Christ's Church in the west.
 

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Darby's attempt to separate the nation of Israel from Christ's Church is not Biblical.
Scripture is not as clear as many other passages are, but there is enough inference to therorize because of the the evidence of the Jerimiah and Ezekiel prophecies, and other passages.
 

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Scripture is not as clear as many other passages are, but there is enough inference to therorize because of the the evidence of the Jerimiah and Ezekiel prophecies, and other passages.

You're joking, right?

The Book of Ezekiel is mainly to... the ten lost tribes of the "house of Israel". God said He made Ezekiel a watchman to the "house of Israel", meaning the ten northern tribes. The "house of Israel" is what the ten tribes were called after God split Israel into two nations in Solomon's day.

The Book of Jeremiah is mainly about and to the "house of Judah". The ten tribes had already been removed by then, and were not part of the Jew's captivity to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar.

Read your Old Testament history instead of playing Church.
 

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The Book of Ezekiel is mainly to... the ten lost tribes of the "house of Israel". God said He made Ezekiel a watchman to the "house of Israel", meaning the ten northern tribes. The "house of Israel" is what the ten tribes were called after God split Israel into two nations in Solomon's day.

The Book of Jeremiah is mainly about and to the "house of Judah". The ten tribes had already been removed by then, and were not part of the Jew's captivity to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar.
I will need some Scripture to determine what you are trying to say. I know what you mean but there's nothing refuting my theory about God finally renewing Israel and Judah back to Himself (Jer 31:31). Thanks.
 

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I will need some Scripture to determine what you are trying to say. I know what you mean but there's nothing refuting my theory about God finally renewing Israel and Judah back to Himself (Jer 31:31). Thanks.

Firstly, the Scripture doesn't say just the term "Judah" and the term "Israel". It says the "house of Judah", and the "house of Israel". That's important because there are separate Bible prophecies for each house in effect all the way up to Christ's future coming.

You just made this post long by asking me for Scripture, of not what I'm saying, but what I declared God Himself has said. And I must warn you; if you do not care to go through each Scripture line below, along with my comments, then don't waste my time any more with your wanting proof of what I've been saying, because the proof has been written in God's Word all along, you just need to study it more...

Ezek 37:12-26
12 "Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O My people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put My spirit in you, and ye shall live,
and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

God is speaking this to all the tribes of Israel, both the "house of Judah" (3 tribes, Jews), and the "house of Israel" (ten northern tribes).

As of today, what people make up the majority of the seed of Israel in the nation of Israel? They call themselves Jews. That's because the majority there make up the remnant of Jews that returned to Jerusalem from the Babylon captivity, the strangers that had become Jews along with them (see Ezra 1 & 2). I've quoted the Jewish historian Josephus many times also of where the title of Jew originated. He said it comes from the sole tribe of Judah, and is what those who returned called themselves. None of that involved the ten tribe "house of Israel", because the ten tribes had already been scattered out of the holy land before the Jews went into their Babylon captivity (see 2 Kings).

Yet the majority of the Jews there still REJECT Lord Jesus Christ, so it does not look like the above Ezek.37:14 verse has been fulfilled yet, has it? not if you are trying to associate The New Covenant of Hebrews 8 and 10 with God having put Israel and Judah back together. (Hebrews 8:8-13 is a quote from Jeremiah 31:34).


15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, 'For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions': then take another stick, and write upon it, 'For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions':


God tells Ezekiel to take two sticks, and write on one "For Judah..." pointing to the 3 tribe "house of Judah" that followed Solomon's son Rehoboam, king of Judah. And then take another stick, and write on it, "For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim...", which is only about the northern ten tribes of Israel that separated from Judah. And God made Jeroboam of the seed of Ephraim king over the majority of Israelites, known as the "kingdom of Israel", made up of 10 tribes.

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.


God tells Ezekiel to put the two sticks together to become one stick.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, "Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?"
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; 'Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in Mine hand.'
20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.


God promised to join them back together, but where and when?

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold,
I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

Ah... there it is again, the subject of the above Ezekiel 37:14 verse about their being gathered back to their OWN lands. What lands? The lands of Promise that God first promised Abraham. That became Israel's inheritance in Christ's future physical Kingdom, which is not manifest on earth yet today, even Jesus Himself saying so (John 18:36).

22 And
I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

The nation of Israel today has no king upon a throne anymore. Zedekiah during the time of Nebuchadnezzar was the last king of the house of David there in Jerusalem. So the above verse cannot yet be fulfilled in the 'land of Israel' today either.

Nor can we as Christians simply move... this prophecy about that restoration specifically... in the land of promise in the middle east with the Church in the Christian West. It has not happened yet today.

(I will explain later how the Hebrews 8 covenant with the "house of Judah" and the "house of Israel" is meant for today under Christ Jesus.)

(Continued...)
 

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(Continued...)

Ezekiel 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

Can you just slap on the idea the above part in red means all 12 scattered tribes rejoined in Christ as His Church? No, because God is referring to gathering them in final back to the lands He promised their fathers, in the middle east. And we do not see this gathering having happened in the middle east nation of Israel yet today. Per 1 Kings 11:31-36, God promised He would always leave "one tribe" at Jerusalem for David's and Jerusalem's sake. It is the 3 tribe "house of Judah" that dwells in the nation of Israel today, not all 12 tribes. And the ten tribe "house of Israel" actually made up the majority of the seed of Israel.

24 And David My servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in My judgments, and observe My statutes, and do them.

David is listed as a prince elsewhere in the Book of Ezekiel after Christ's future return (See Ezek.34:23-24). Who might that "one shepherd" be? That represents our Lord Jesus Christ. This timing is for when Jesus returns and restores the kingdom of Israel specifically in the holy land, for Lord Jesus is King over it.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob My servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and My servant David shall be their prince for ever.

There it is, David not as king, but as "prince" even for ever. And where will that be? In the lands of promise that God gave to His servant Jacob.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
KJV


Could that be The New Covenant? Yes, but like Paul showed in Romans 11, the majority of his brethren the Jews reject Lord Jesus, until... the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Then all Israel shall be saved, Paul said. That means those unbelieving Jews will convert to Jesus once God removes the spiritual blindness He put upon them so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles.

So the above 26th verse will be more for those yet to accept Jesus Christ among those blinded by God today. This is another important distinction that reveals the two separate houses are still yet to be put back together today, i.e., the majority of Jews that reject Lord Jesus Christ converting to Him at His 2nd coming and restoration of the old kingdom of Israel.

Since Jesus' death and resurrection, the Jeremiah 31 prophecy has only been partially... fulfilled by Jesus through His Church.

Christ's Church is made up of Israelites of both... houses, along with Gentiles, all as one body.

God's Birthright Blessings originally given through Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob, and then Joseph, and finally upon Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, were transferred to Christ's Church of the Western Christian nations (see Christ's parable in Matt.21). That's why Christ's Church in the West at its foundations was established with many Christian nations, Britain becoming the first Christian nation, and with kings, and with all the blessings that God originally gave Israel. The Genesis 35 and Genesis 48 prophecy that Jacob's seed would become "a nation, and a company of nations", and to Ephraim's seed becoming "a multitude of nations", was fulfilled with the western Christian nations. That is where the majority of the Israelites were scattered to, to Asia Minor and Europe.

When Lord Jesus returns in our near future, He will gather His elect who will go with Him to Jerusalem to reign over all nations, and He will be King of restored Israel there, along with His elect Church. Jesus even said to the Church of Philadelphia that He will make those of the "synagogue of Satan" to come and worship Him at the feet of His very elect (Rev.3).
 

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I hate to break it to you below, seeing as how you have been spiritually soaked into men's false theories of John Nelson Darby's pre-trib rapture Dispensationalism.
It appears our understanding of Scripture varies too much from one another for debating this issue.
 
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It appears our understanding of Scripture varies too much from one another for debating this issue.

You said it, I didn't. I pray then that you will get more into God's written Word for yourself, instead of heeding men's doctrines and commentaries which are not... The Word of God.
 

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You said it, I didn't. I pray then that you will get more into God's written Word for yourself, instead of heeding men's doctrines and commentaries which are not... The Word of God.
Thanks Brother, maybe catch you on another subject. God blessings to you and your Family, and God be blessed!
 

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Of the three divisions of humanity which are given by the Apostle Paul, namely, the Jews, the Gentles and the Church of God (1Co 10:32), the first and third represent the two major purposes of God—the earthly purpose centered in the Jews (Jews who believe in God but not the Lord Jesus - Jn 14:1—NC) and the heavenly purpose centered in the Church.

Though they are in evidence from the beginning of human history, and though privileged as individuals to respond to the message of saving grace and be included in the Church, and though some of them are to share with Israel the unending kingdom glory (Rom 15:9-12—NC), the Gentiles represent no specific and independent divine purpose; yet their distinctive identity as Gentile (Christians—NC) is preserved and their future may be traced into eternity.

These numerous predictions respecting the Gentiles are scattered throughout the Bible; but to Daniel is given the complete preview of the history of the Gentiles, beginning with the Jews’ captivity and running on into the kingdom dispensation. The period between the captivity and the second advent of Christ is named by him “the times of the Gentiles” (when the last Gentile will be saved, i.e. the fullness of the Gentiles—NC), and its peculiar identification is the fact that, throughout its duration, Jerusalem will be trodden down of the Gentiles.

The passage reads, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled” (Luk 21:24). No mere fortuitous selection of Jerusalem as the location of this prophetic sign is made by Christ (not a coincidence—NC)—such as might fall upon any city. The significance is to be seen in the particular character of Jerusalem, which is singled out above all the cities of the earth. It is the national center of the chosen, eternal people.

It is “the city of the great King” (Psa 48:2; Mat 5:35), the theme of marvelous predictions, the location of David’s eternal throne (2Sa 7:16), and the center of divine government in the coming millennial kingdom. From Jerusalem shall the whole world be governed (Isa 2:3, 4; Eze 48:35). The disclosure is made by Christ that as long as God’s purpose with Israel is in abeyance, Jerusalem will be permitted to be “trodden down of the Gentiles” (“until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled”); but when Jehovah again claims Jerusalem, the Gentiles are not only to be driven from that city, but the whole Gentile period will come to its end (Rev 11:2).

Gentiles have never contemplated Jerusalem as the center of their world-governments. That city means no more to them than any other city of the past. World empires have centered in Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome; Rome will yet be a restored world-dominion, the continuation of that which was in existence when this present dispensation was thrust in. Strictly speaking, this Church age is not a part or development of the Gentile times.

Though the times of the Gentiles had actually begun, Daniel was, in his long lifetime, given to experience three far-reaching visions of those times. Apart from certain warnings which had been given, the future to the instructed Jew consisted in the continued progress of events leading to the realization of all his earthly glory as anticipated in his covenants and promises. Therefore, apart from a distinct divine revelation, the intrusion of a Gentile period could create only perplexity.

In Gentile times the question must be answered as to what has become of the revealed divine program respecting Israel and the whole world through that people. The question is not answered by the implication that God has changed His mind respecting Israel. His covenants, being unconditional and everlasting, are immutable (“irrevocable” Rom 11:29—NC). However, divine right to delay their fulfillment in the interests of chastisement was reserved (2 Sam 7:14; Psa 89:20, 30-37).

Daniel, who was by the providence of God pressed into a high place in Gentile dominion, which he held for more than seventy years, was especially fitted to receive and transmit the Word of God respecting the course and end of those Gentile times which began with his captivity in Babylon. To him it was given to see from his own day to the cutting off the Messiah and on to the time when the Messiah would take His everlasting throne (Dan 2:44, 45; 7:13, 14), and every covenant would be fulfilled.

Thus Daniel accounts for Gentile times that were being inserted as an intercalation in the predicted program for Israel. When, later on and following the death of Christ, a Church intercalation is added to these Gentile times, the announcement of it is intimated by Christ but is committed in its full revelation by the Apostle Paul. However, neither the first setting aside of Israel’s program for Gentile times, nor the second setting aside of Gentiles for the dispensation of the Church, has cast so much as a shadow over the certainty that God will yet in His own faithfulness fulfill every covenant promise to His chosen people Israel.

By three major visions, which are amplified by lesser visions, Daniel foresaw the times of the Gentiles, which had already begun and which, apart from revelation, must perplex the Jew who had before his eyes the covenants and promises of Israel. Naturally the question arises, in view of the setting aside of Israel’s program and the intrusion of Gentile dominion, what has become of that unchangeable, eternal and divine favor upon Israel?

In all three major visions, Daniel saw the Gentile times through to the consummation and the final realization of Messiah’s kingdom and the fulfillment of every promise to Israel. However, it cannot be emphasized too strongly that Daniel did not see the intercalation period of the Church which would intervene between the two advents of Christ—a period which, as has been indicated, is an intrusion into Gentile times, is not the end of Gentile times; rather it is seen to be an added delay in the realization of the major divine purpose for Israel.

Thus when the Church dispensation with its unprecedented features is later introduced it is explained by the church council in Jerusalem, as a delay in Israel’s program. Here it should be pointed out that the Church age, though unrelated to the times of the Gentiles, is not the end of Gentile times. Those times extend six hundred before the Church dispensation and must be renewed and taken up again for a period of seven years after that dispensation.

It cannot be made too emphatic that God’s earthly purpose centers in the Jew, and that, apart from the interruption of a Gentile period which is itself interrupted by the Church dispensation, there would be only the direct outworking and development to fulfillment of every Israeli covenant.

Daniel is chosen of God to explain the intrusion of Gentile times into Israel’s calendar, and Christ and Paul explain the intrusion of the dispensation of the Church into the Gentile and Jewish times. Paul’s explanation is found in Romans 9-11; and the first church council was convened at Jerusalem to determine this same fact in Acts 15:13-18. These interruptions, or intercalations, in no way jeopardize the primary earthly purpose of Israel (the God-believing Jews inherit the New Earth; and the Christians, the New Heaven—NC.

—L S Chafer (1871-1952)





MJS daily devotional excerpt

“There are earnest Christians who are jealous for a free Gospel, with acceptance of Christ, and justification by faith alone. But after this they think everything depends on their diligence and faithfulness. While they firmly grasp the truth, ‘justified by faith,’ they have hardly noticed the larger truth, ‘the just shall live by faith.’ They have not yet understood what a perfect Savior the Lord Jesus is, and how He will each day do for the sinner just as much as He did the first day when they came to Him.

“They know not that the life of grace is always and only a life of faith, and that in the relationship to the Lord Jesus the one daily and unceasing duty of the disciple is to believe, because believing is the one channel through which Divine grace and strength can flow into the heart of man. The old nature of the believer remains evil and sinful to the last; it is only as he daily comes, all empty and helpless, to his Savior to receive of His life and strength, that he can bring forth the fruits of righteousness to the glory of God.”
–Andrew Murray (1828-1917)
abideabove.com/hungry-heart
When you said:
"the earthly purpose centered in the Jews (Jews who believe in God but not the Lord Jesus ",
I stopped reading at that point. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE IN GOD WITHOUT BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST.

That also means that God will not recognize ANYONE who does not go through Jesus.