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Do you support the war with Iran right now?


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talons

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The US has not declared WAR.
But it is just that a war , remember Vietnam and Korea they were surely called wars but never declared .
But the US military is engaged in operations, as they routinely do for a plethora of reasons…
That is always for a benefit for America (long or short term) security, protection, advantage of America and her People.
Pres. Eisenhower warned us but we did not listen .

Transcript of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Farewell Address

I will let you list the benefits we received from the Vietnam War , don't shoot the rubber trees they said .

Maybe this one will be easier , what were the benefits of TWO decades of war on Afghanistan ?

Think critically here @Taken , I know I have . Read the book at the link I posted in post#247 if you have not , it is an eye opener .
Israel is and has been for decades routinely on the defense of threats and attacks.
Furnish them what they need to defend themselves .
America Has always been a friend, ally and shared the Same God and His Word with Israel.
Power and money .
 
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But it is just that a war , remember Vietnam and Korea they were surely called wars but never declared .

Pres. Eisenhower warned us but we did not listen .

Transcript of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Farewell Address

I will let you list the benefits we received from the Vietnam War , don't shoot the rubber trees they said .
Maybe this one will be easier , what were the benefits of TWO decades of war on Afghanistan ?

Think critically here @Taken , I know I have . Read the book at the link I posted in post#247 if you have not , it is an eye opener .

Furnish them what they need to defend themselves .

Power and money .
The main reasons why say from Vietnam on all such etc etc Wars went on so long was because the UN informed the enemy before hand so that the enemy was totaly prepaired !

Lets hope Trump keeps all such unelected Communist morons out of the loop. and save many lives and the cost down.

I would walk streight through them, and give them the same treatment like they did to the Nazis ! The Nazis were a very hardened lot of totaly radical brainwashed Mob, much like Iran's radical criminals are. it's the only way to deal with trash like that. so they never ever try that capper ever again !

The People of Iran have to stand up and take their Nation back again from such a insane Evil Dictatorship !

Not to mention I am sick to death of our Socialist in the West who are pandering to such clearly Evil Dictatorships all over the world !
 

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I am of the opinion Trump thinks he is speaking to Adults with an awareness of History and Common sense of what another Nation is planning is typically more in-depth than the US intelligence knows and Thus some things are iffy and can Quickly change the course of action.

Appears you would be best suited outside the purview of informed options and rather wait and see after the fact.

My opinion, Trump is looking for an exit strategy claiming victory while there is no victory.

1. No Iranian uprising;
2. No regime change;
3. No capture or destruction of Iran enriched uranium;
4. Iran does not even want to negotiate any longer;
5. They will continue to get the bomb ignoring everybody.

No plan = bad plan.
 
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My opinion, Trump is looking for an exit strategy claiming victory while there is no victory.

1. No Iranian uprising;
2. No regime change;
3. No capture or destruction of Iran enriched uranium;
4. Iran does not even want to negotiate any longer;
5. They will continue to get the bomb ignoring everybody.

No plan = bad plan.
It may be the best strategy now. America cannot change the regime or defeat Iran just from the air. It would require drastic measures like hundreds of thousands of American soldiers invading Iran, which would be a political end of Trump and it would produce a total economic mess worldwide.

So, claiming some empty victory, even though the regime is now even more hardlined than before is probably the only card Trump can play now.

But what is worse - Iran now sees that negotiations are useless and Israel/America can attack them any moment. While nobody attacks North Korea. The difference is - nuclear weaponry.
 
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Yet,in American public schools the writing style of cursive isn't being taught anymore.

Our founding documents are written in cursive. And what with cancel culture fascists activism it's not guaranteed those documents would be transfered to block text for the historic record,as written.

The education programing is a joke.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
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But it is just that a war , remember Vietnam and Korea they were surely called wars but never declared .

Can be confusing…the US was involved in a “conflict”…(a disagreement between two other nation states)…
A “declaration of war”, (is between two nation states)…
US involvement was support of one states side over another, regarding “their declared War”.



I believe the last time the US declared was was In 1942.
 
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My opinion, Trump is looking for an exit strategy claiming victory while there is no victory.

1. No Iranian uprising;
2. No regime change;
3. No capture or destruction of Iran enriched uranium;
4. Iran does not even want to negotiate any longer;
5. They will continue to get the bomb ignoring everybody.

No plan = bad plan.

Certainly, you being a historical scholar of Irans people…
Their “internal” decades Long…of
Their Religious divide;
Their Revolutions;
Their Radical Extremist Governing Takeovers;
Their despicable treatment of their citizens;
Their governing and technological “secrets”.

You should be the one to be sitting in Trumps Cabinet or board of Advisers laying out the PLAN and directing Trump on EVERY detail to announce “to the World.”

Oh, wait… Trump has no obligation to include you (a foreigner) or the American citizens in any military Planned Operation Details.

A multitude of “Warnings” have been given.
Some “high expectations” have been reported.

You confuse a “Warning with a Plan.”
You confuse “a high expectation with a concrete result”.

Warning, Reporting, Listening, Reasoning, Expectation, Involvement, Concluding…
must have different meanings in the Netherlands.

:rolleyes:
 
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Seems the precise bombing was not precise.
Seems you don't know evil when it is right in front of you. Netanyahu explained the difference between the Jews and Islamic Jihadi's.
  • The Jews (and most normal people) use weapons to protect their women and children.
  • The Islamic Jihadi's use their women and children to protect their weapons.
In Gaza, they employed the same tactic. The map you show proves it. For some evil reason, you are blaming the liberators not the evil Islamic Jihadi's for placing their schools so close to legitimate military targets. It's pathetic.

And, no, I'm not moving the goal post. I'm not conceding that America or Jewish bombs blew up the school. Can you imagine if White American military surrounded their base with Black schools and hospitals? Who would be blamed for the carnage? Fully indoctrinated you are to swallow hook, line and sinker all propaganda by the globalists.

Let's just say for one moment that Iranian women and children are being killed in this war by American and Jewish forces. (I accept that 100% will happen.) The burden is on the Islamic Jihadi's to surrender to save their own people. The burden is not on those who are winning the war to stop one little bit.
 
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Certainly, you being a historical scholar of Irans people…
Their “internal” decades Long…of
Their Religious divide;
Their Revolutions;
Their Radical Extremist Governing Takeovers;
Their despicable treatment of their citizens;
Their governing and technological “secrets”.

You should be the one to be sitting in Trumps Cabinet or board of Advisers laying out the PLAN and directing Trump on EVERY detail to announce “to the World.”

Oh, wait… Trump has no obligation to include you (a foreigner) or the American citizens in any military Planned Operation Details.

A multitude of “Warnings” have been given.
Some “high expectations” have been reported.

You confuse a “Warning with a Plan.”
You confuse “a high expectation with a concrete result”.

Warning, Reporting, Listening, Reasoning, Expectation, Involvement, Concluding…
must have different meanings in the Netherlands.

:rolleyes:

Quoting CNN, just released :

While Caine said the US is making progress toward eliminating Iran’s missile capabilities, it remains unclear how the Pentagon plans to address another key threat: the country’s underground nuclear facilities, particularly those suspected of housing highly enriched uranium.

CNN previously reported that destroying Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium cannot be achieved through airpower alone, and the Trump administration has discussed possibly using ground forces to extract the material from its underground storage locations.

Multiple current and former officials told CNN such a mission would require a large ground force, beyond a small unit of US special forces.


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Prepared to boots-on-the-ground ?

Facing the Iran revolutionary guard of over 100.000 soldiers weaponized to the teeth ?
 

ProDeo

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Seems you don't know evil when it is right in front of you. Netanyahu explained the difference between the Jews and Islamic Jihadi's.
  • The Jews (and most normal people) use weapons to protect their women and children.
  • The Islamic Jihadi's use their women and children to protect their weapons.
In Gaza, they employed the same tactic. The map you show proves it. For some evil reason, you are blaming the liberators not the evil Islamic Jihadi's for placing their schools so close to legitimate military targets. It's pathetic.

And, no, I'm not moving the goal post. I'm not conceding that America or Jewish bombs blew up the school. Can you imagine if White American military surrounded their base with Black schools and hospitals? Who would be blamed for the carnage? Fully indoctrinated you are to swallow hook, line and sinker and and all propaganda by the globalists.

Let's just say for one moment that Iranian women and children are being killed in this war by American and Jewish forces. (I accept that 100% will happen.) The burden is on the Islamic Jihadi's to surrender to save their own people. The burden is not on those who are winning the war to stop one little bit.

Just released on CNN :

The strike that struck a primary school in Iran will be “thoroughly” investigated, the defense secretary said, adding the US has “attempted in every way possible to avoid civilian casualties.”
 

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Seems you don't know evil when it is right in front of you. Netanyahu explained the difference between the Jews and Islamic Jihadi's.
  • The Jews (and most normal people) use weapons to protect their women and children.
  • The Islamic Jihadi's use their women and children to protect their weapons.
In Gaza, they employed the same tactic.
Do you mean the same Netanyahu who is wanted in the International Criminal Court?

Netanyahu​

About Defendant
Mr Benjamin Netanyahu, born on 21 October 1949, Prime Minister of Israel at the time of the relevant conduct.
Arrest warrant issued on 21 November 2024
Accused LastName
Netanyahu
Accused FirstName
Benjamin
Charges
Allegedly responsible for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024.

 
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Just released on CNN :

The strike that struck a primary school in Iran will be “thoroughly” investigated, the defense secretary said, adding the US has “attempted in every way possible to avoid civilian casualties.”
War secretary. We are no longer waiting to be attacked to defend but going on the offensive to advance America’s interests. It’s now called the War Department.

I’m not sure what posting this does for your anti-American rhetoric.
 
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