Ezekiel 37 Happens BEFORE Christ's Future Millennium Reign

[PinSeeker]

It seems to be apparent that I don't

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[Davy]

of course it does. actually before the second half of Daniel's 70th week.

The dry bones starting to wake up starts to happen just prior to the second half of Daniel's final "one week", because that represents the sealing of the elect with God's Seal in prep for the tribulation. But the rest of the prophecy only happens on the "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns, and thereafter into Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect.

 

[Bladerunner]

The dry bones starting to wake up starts to happen just prior to the second half of Daniel's final "one week", because that represents the sealing of the elect with God's Seal in prep for the tribulation. But the rest of the prophecy only happens on the "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns, and thereafter into Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect.

The dry bones prophecy was for the re-gathering of Israel in 1948...fulfilled......The Gog/magog War has to begin no later than 3.5 y, years before Daniel's 70th week (by Scripture)

 

[Davy]

The dry bones prophecy was for the re-gathering of Israel in 1948...fulfilled......The Gog/magog War has to begin no later than 3.5 y, years before Daniel's 70th week (by Scripture)

Not so, because the dry bones idea is about God bringing the WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL back to the holy land, and that means the TEN LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL also. That will only happen when Jesus returns, and is setup there in Jerusalem as the "one shepherd" with David as their "prince" (See Ezekiel 37:23-25).

Ezek 37:11-12
11 Then He said unto me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.'

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O My people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel."
KJV

Those who have been returning since 1948 are Jews. They are not... the ten lost tribes of Israel. The ten northern tribes of Israel were scattered out of the holy lands first, taken captive by the kings of Assyria, about 120 years prior to the Jew's captivity to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon. The ten tribes never returned as a people. And if that were not so, then God would not have given His two-sticks prophecy in Ezekiel 37 about joining the two separated houses back together again in final, under Christ and David in the holy land. Today, the majority of Jews there still REJECT Jesus Christ as God's Promised Savior.

The ten tribes became LOST, losing their heritage as part of Israel (See Book of Hosea). The Jews of the "house of Judah" were not lost, and retained their heritage as part of Israel, even to this day. And it is the Jews of the "house of Judah" that have been returning to Israel since 1948.

Now if you do not yet understand God's split of the old nation of Israel in Solomon's day, I suggest you study it, starting in 1 Kings 11 through 2 Kings 17.

Thus it is Jews only, both foreigners that converted to Judaism, and Jews descended of the old "house of Judah" (tribes Judah, Benjamin, and Levi), that have been returning. What Ezekiel 37 is covering is the return of ALL... 12 tribes of Israel back to the land, under one Shepherd (Jesus Christ), and David as their "prince". The nation of Israel has not seen that happen yet today.

 

[Bladerunner]

Not so, because the dry bones idea is about God bringing the WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL back to the holy land, and that means the TEN LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL also. That will only happen when Jesus returns, and is setup there in Jerusalem as the "one shepherd" with David as their "prince" (See Ezekiel 37:23-25).

Ezek 37:11-12
11 Then He said unto me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.'

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O My people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel."
KJV

Those who have been returning since 1948 are Jews. They are not... the ten lost tribes of Israel. The ten northern tribes of Israel were scattered out of the holy lands first, taken captive by the kings of Assyria, about 120 years prior to the Jew's captivity to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon. The ten tribes never returned as a people. And if that were not so, then God would not have given His two-sticks prophecy in Ezekiel 37 about joining the two separated houses back together again in final, under Christ and David in the holy land. Today, the majority of Jews there still REJECT Jesus Christ as God's Promised Savior.

The ten tribes became LOST, losing their heritage as part of Israel (See Book of Hosea). The Jews of the "house of Judah" were not lost, and retained their heritage as part of Israel, even to this day. And it is the Jews of the "house of Judah" that have been returning to Israel since 1948.

Now if you do not yet understand God's split of the old nation of Israel in Solomon's day, I suggest you study it, starting in 1 Kings 11 through 2 Kings 17.

Thus it is Jews only, both foreigners that converted to Judaism, and Jews descended of the old "house of Judah" (tribes Judah, Benjamin, and Levi), that have been returning. What Ezekiel 37 is covering is the return of ALL... 12 tribes of Israel back to the land, under one Shepherd (Jesus Christ), and David as their "prince". The nation of Israel has not seen that happen yet today.

Not so. the Jews of the Northern kingdom and those of the southern kingdom were intertwined. in other words, the northern kingdom was in idolatry. those Jews who did not prescribe to Idolatry usually moved to the Southern kingdom of Israel....what would you do. Idolatry all around you and you believed in God. Would you stay in a state such as that or would you move to where others thought the same as you...............as far as the prophecy, has it been fulfilled.......NOT yet.....while it did start in 1948, for until then, there was no state of Israel at all in the world.....and until the mid section of Daniel's 70th week where the final remnant of Israel will be saved and all the test of Israel 2/3 of their population will die. Rev 12. Yes there are many Jews that are left in the world that have yet relocated to Israel..The building/construction we see on a daily basis bares the truth that the Prophecy of the "Valley of the Bones" is still ongoing.

 

[Davy]

Not so. the Jews of the Northern kingdom and those of the southern kingdom were intertwined.

Per the Jewish historian Josephus, the northern ten tribes did not call themselves Jews. Instead, that's the title those of the southern "kingdom of Judah" went by. So you are adding... to Scripture by claiming they were all Jews.

Per 2 Chronicles 11:12-17, only a small remnant of the northern ten tribes left the north and joined with the "house of Judah" in the southern kingdom. That small remnant left because of Jeroboam whom God gave to be king over the ten northern tribes, setup calf idol worship in the north. Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim also setup common priests of the people among the northern ten tribes, so the Levites in the north left also and joined with the "kingdom of Judah."

Would you stay in a state such as that or would you move to where others thought the same as you...............as far as the prophecy, has it been fulfilled.......NOT yet.....while it did start in 1948, for until then, there was no state of Israel at all in the world.....and until the mid section of Daniel's 70th week where the final remnant of Israel will be saved and all the test of Israel 2/3 of their population will die. Rev 12.

God's Word does not agree with you about 1948 being the restoration of Israel, because as I have already shown from Ezekiel 37, and what Jesus said about inheriting His earthly throne in Matthew 25, the restoration MUST INCLUDE A KING at Jerusalem, His Name is Jesus Christ.

So if you be Christian, you are not supposed to be deceived by today's 'unbelieving' Jews trekking back to the holy land as meaning the restoration of the KINGDOM of Israel. Notice I said Kingdom of Israel, and NOT the 'nation'. The word 'kingdom' means 'a king and his dominion'. So where is ISRAEL's king in today's nation in the middle east?

I recommend you study Jeremiah 24 about the two baskets of figs that God showed Jeremiah by vision. One basket represents Judah (the Jews), and other basket represents the false-Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" that would return to Jerusalem with them.

THAT... is the prophecy that has been being fulfilled since 1948. This is happening today because it is in prep for the basket of evil figs to take over that dwells among the true Jews in today's Jerusalem. The evil basket, the "synagogue of Satan" who only say... they are Jews, but lie and are not, will prepare the world for the coming false-Messiah they will setup as 'their' king to mimic our Lord Jesus' coming.

Jer 24:5-8
5 Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.

When the 3-tribe "house of Judah" went into captivity to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, the strangers living in Judea who also took the name Jew went captive to Babylon with them, and returned with the small remnant of true Jews after that captivity. The Books of Ezra and Nehemiah even mentions how some of those foreigners returning had crept into the priesthood. Ezra even noticed when the Jews were returning to Jerusalem, that none of the sons of Levi were among them, so he sent the head Nethinim back to Babylon to bring Levite priests needed for temple service in the new 2nd temple the Jews would build.

The Nethinims were bondservants not born of the seed of Israel. They were temple servants, helpers for the Levites. The Kenites, a foreign people of the land of Canaan per Gen.15, were already dwelling among the Jews as scribes to keep the letters of God's Word (1 Chronicles 2:55). Those foreigners having crept in, represent that basket of evil figs that God said would return along with the good basket Judah. That is who are there today in the nation of Israel.

6 For I will set mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.

The above phrases in red are very important. It means when God brings these two baskets of figs back to Jerusalem-Judea, that He would remove them no more. When was the last time the Jews in Jerusalem-Judea were scattered through the nations? At the Diaspora, in 70 A.D. when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the 2nd temple. Since that time, only a small remnant of Jews had been living in Jerusalem along with Muslims. God promised that leaving "one tribe" of Israel at Jerusalem too for the Jews, in 1 Kings 11.

But as of today, that above Jer.24:6 verse is still in effect for the Jews in today's Jerusalem, that is IF... God does not scatter them again through the nations. Thus 1948 is represented by this Jeremiah 24 return of only... Jews of the "house of Judah", and NOT the larger group of Israelites that lost their heritage as Israel, known as the ten tribe "house of Israel."

7 And I will give them an heart to know Me, that I am the LORD: and they shall be My people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto Me with their whole heart.

And so it is with the remnant of devout orthodox Jews in today's nation of Israel. They still reject Lord Jesus though, and that won't change until they see Lord Jesus coming in the clouds.

8 And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith the LORD, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt:
KJV

Zedekiah was the last king of the "house of Judah", of the house of David at Jerusalem. Nebuchadnezzar killed all his son heirs, and took him captive in chains to Babylon where he died. The basket of evil figs, pagans had crept in among Israel, especially within the tribe of Judah as the "synagogue of Satan". (note the foreigner scribes were with the Pharisees that wanted Jesus murdered.) These evil figs would dwell there in Jerusalem with true Judah, even to this day. They will not be cast out until Jesus returns, which is written in Zechariah 14.