Destroyers of The Earth

[Eyeball Dub]

God destroying the destroyers of the earth and yet God is creating a new heaven and a new earth. I think the new heaven and the new earth cannot be destroyed.


Revelation 11:18 ESV The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth."

Revelation 21:1 ESV Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

Luke 20:35-36 ESV but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, (36) for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.


If you try to destroy the new heaven and the new earth that would be second crucifixion.


Hebrews 6:4-6 ESV For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, (5) and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, (6) and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.

Matthew 25:40 ESV And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Your post is interesting.
Makes me think of:
1 Corinthians 8:11-12 And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. [12] Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

That's very true but God has preference for people with strong faith.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

That's very true but God has preference for people with strong faith.

Really considering what you wrote but looking at those He chose... it was always those who lacked. "Oh, you of little faith"?? Revealing His power and not mans. even going as far as to say the treasure is carried in a weak earthen vessel so that the power be of God, and not of men. Strange is Paul considers the weak brother as an earthen vessel that Paul should not destroy. destroyers of the earth? where the treasure is?

Hebrews 6:4-6 ...the falling away is turning against their brother. ?

 

[lforrest]

If you try to destroy the new heaven and the new earth that would be second crucifixion.

An interesting statement. Does this imply the crucifixion was as the destruction of the present earth. I believe there is a connection, if indirect, as the blood of Jesus being shed leads to the opening of the seventh seal in revelation and the final judgement. Perhaps God would have allowed the old to persist in vain if not for Jesus' sacrifice.

Eternal nature itself may interact differently with the word of God. A word guarantees how things will turn out in time. In Eternity a word from God guarantees how things are. This makes destruction impossible.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Really considering what you wrote but looking at those He chose... it was always those who lacked. "Oh, you of little faith"?? Revealing His power and not mans. even going as far as to say the treasure is carried in a weak earthen vessel so that the power be of God, and not of men. Strange is Paul considers the weak brother as an earthen vessel that Paul should not destroy. destroyers of the earth? where the treasure is?

Hebrews 6:4-6 ...the falling away is turning against their brother. ?

Paul meant we should have consideration for those who have little faith, because in time their faith would flourish.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Your post is interesting.
Makes me think of:
1 Corinthians 8:11-12 And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. [12] Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ.

I have this verse in mind,

1 Corinthians 11:27 ESV (27) Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Eternal nature itself may interact differently with the word of God. A word guarantees how things will turn out in time. In Eternity a word from God guarantees how things are. This makes destruction impossible.

I beleive God could change His mind.

Revelation 21:5 ESV And he who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." Also he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Eternal nature itself may interact differently with the word of God. A word guarantees how things will turn out in time. In Eternity a word from God guarantees how things are. This makes destruction impossible.

"They will be tormented day and night forever and ever" is also eternal by nature, but it belongs to the present earth, it does not belong to the new heaven and new earth.

Revelation 20:10 ESV and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Revelation 21:24-25 ESV (24) By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, (25) and its gates will never be shut by day--and there will be no night there.

 

[Button]

The new human post flood generations are still destroying the Earth.
The new Earth will only occur when the populace is no longer in the flesh.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The new human post flood generations are still destroying the Earth.
The new Earth will only occur when the populace is no longer in the flesh.

Being Of the flesh ?

In regards a new earth ? do people think it will be another earth ? as some tell me. as in blind faith so as to have no regard ?

Greenies bark on and on, but have seen they have no regards for all of the bombing and distruction that has being going on, say from the start of the Ukraine War got Russia involved.
So how much toxic issues etc have been created just from then on, not to mention the rebuilding of all that's being destroyed and the cost in pollution alone.

 

[lforrest]

"They will be tormented day and night forever and ever" is also eternal by nature, but it belongs to the present earth, it does not belong to the new heaven and new earth.

Revelation 20:10 ESV and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Revelation 21:24-25 ESV (24) By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, (25) and its gates will never be shut by day--and there will be no night there.

Consider the warning at the book of revelation, that God may remove names from the book of life. Yet for all intents and purposes this book itself can be considered eternal.

God is able to change anything about his creation at will.

 

[Button]

God will never blot out the names of those who are saved in Christ.

“The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.” Revelation 3:5

Imagine if God blotted out our names if we stopped believing. And then wrote our names down when we repented and returned to the fold.
That would then be contrary to God's Omniscience.

No. The Lambs Book of Life,Eternal Life,was written before the creation of this world.
God knew who were his before we were born. He doesn't make mistakes.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Consider the warning at the book of revelation, that God may remove names from the book of life. Yet for all intents and purposes this book itself can be considered eternal.

God is able to change anything about his creation at will.

Hebrews 13:8 ESV Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

It cannot be undone.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Consider the warning at the book of revelation, that God may remove names from the book of life. Yet for all intents and purposes this book itself can be considered eternal.

God is able to change anything about his creation at will.

The book of life was written with reference to the present earth, it belongs to the present earth. The book of life in the new earth is better.

 

[lforrest]

The book of life was written with reference to the present earth, it belongs to the present earth. The book of life in the new earth is better.

I don't believe there are two books being refered to here. A lesser one for life in the present earth and another for eternal life in Jesus Christ.

Rather, a word from God is beyond our concept of eternal.

Where did creation, including heaven, come from if nothing can change? Eternity would be stagnation in darkness if not for a word from God. I propose that God's word changes eternity, which otherwise should not be changing.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

I don't believe there are two books being refered to here. A lesser one for life in the present earth and another for eternal life in Jesus Christ.

Rather, a word from God is beyond our concept of eternal.

Where did creation, including heaven, come from if nothing can change? Eternity would be stagnation in darkness if not for a word from God. I propose that God's word changes eternity, which otherwise should not be changing.

John 21:22-23 ESV Jesus said to him, "If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!" (23) So the saying spread abroad among the brothers that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, "If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?"

John the Beloved could be the culprit, "Holy cow, Batman!" dubbed in French, pardon my French.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

The Lord could kill not only the body, the Lord could kill also the soul. I think this is the emphasis when your name gets blotted out of the book of life. The warning is very real, very frightening. I also would like to add that He said, "these words are trustworthy and true". These words were spoken in the new earth, not in the former earth, and it means these words are trustworthy and true from this moment on.

Revelation 21:5 ESV And he who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." Also he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

Matthew 10:28 ESV And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Proverbs 9:10 ESV The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The Lord could kill not only the body, the Lord could kill also the soul. I think this is the emphasis when your name gets blotted out of the book of life. The warning is very real, very frightening. I also would like to add that He said, "these words are trustworthy and true". These words were spoken in the new earth, not in the former earth, and it means these words are trustworthy and true from this moment on.

Revelation 21:5 ESV And he who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." Also he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

Matthew 10:28 ESV And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Proverbs 9:10 ESV The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.

Nonsense ! The Soul lives on in Hell. tormented in it's foolishness. for being such a twat and tossing Gods gift for you and all away ! because that is destruction it's self !

It would of been better if one had hung a millstone around ya neck and tosed it into the sea.

 

[Eyeball Dub]

Nonsense ! The Soul lives on in Hell. tormented in it's foolishness. for being such a twat and tossing Gods gift for you and all away ! because that is destruction it's self !

It would of been better if one had hung a millstone around ya neck and tosed it into the sea.

God did change His mind.

Revelation 21:5 ESV And he who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." Also he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."