Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[ProDeo]

I guess Fox is your choice.
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This guy has brains.
Maybe watch more of him:

Excellent analysis.

Totally unsure how this war will end, definitely not at the negotiation table.

The question will be if Israel will be satisfied with the result, the destruction of Iran's development of nuclear warheads. There is hardly opposition in Israel against this war, it's deeply rooted in the Israeli soul, no second Holocaust. If needed Netanyahu will order a tactical nuke (if they have such a nuke) on the facilities that were bombed in June 2025. Trump will try at all costs to avoid Israel doing that, but when push comes to shove Israel will go its own way as they always have.

 

[Christian Soldier]

For if i sought to please man I would NOT be the servant of Christ .
Seeker friendly literally tanked every church it entered into my friend .
It was all a sham .
It produced a generation that can say love all day long , but knows neither GOD or His love .
It has led them into accusations against the very words of GOD and those who bring such words .
It has led them to holler judge n ot any time the v ery words of GOD are brought that expose sin .
It has led them and even leads them now
to hollering Judge not , when a man says JESUS is the Only way and to be sa ved YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM
and that all other religoins are in d arkness .
It has led them to holler what RIGHT do ye have to say that . What right have ye to say that muslims , hindus
and etc DO not know GOD and are in danger of hell fire .
It has led them to JUDGE . and not sins , not those in e rrors that need correction
BUT THEY JUDGE GOD ALL MIGHTY . GOD and HIS CHRIST , HIS WORDS are now ON TRIAL
in many churches TO BE CONDMENED . and they think is love . and its GOD behind them . NOPE its satan .
THEY may as well be HOLLERING AT GOD and HIS CHRIST
saying WHAT RIGHT HAVE YE TO SAY YE MUST BLEIEVE , WHAT RIGHT have ye haters to say
ONE must repent of sin and BELIEVE ON JESUS .
GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS VERY WORDS are on trial IN MANY CHURCHES NOW
and they judge them as HATE SPEECH just as they judge the sheep who bring them as being haters .
HELLO CHURCHES that is what YE SEEKER FRIENDLY FOLLOW NOW .
THAT IS WHAT YOUR E CUMENICAL WHORE has led you too . JUDGING GOD .

The truth of gospel is the most offensive message to unbelievers and (falsely professing Christians) The Bible describes us as being the stench of death, to the unbelievers. This is why they hate us and wish to do harm or even kill us if they could get away with it.

The false gospel is loved by the whole world, because it declares that God loves every single person on the planet unconditionally. So everyone loves that message because it means they can continue to do evil continuously without fear or consequences. But when they hear the true gospel message, they are infuriated and they can't stand to listen to it.

2 Cor 2:16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things?

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yep...there you are and those are the last disgusting words I will ever read of yours.
Who do you think you are?.....I will just let Jesus tell you.

On my “ignore” list.

Yep, just as I suspected, you hate God and everything He said. I'm not here to share my opinion, that's for you and your kind. My only purpose is to share the truth of the gospel with love.

You have everything upside down and backwards. You consider my love to be hate, but how would I be loving you if I lied to you and told you that your doing just fine. It would be like your Doctor, keeping the fact that you have cancer from you because you would consider it hate speech if he told you the truth. So you'd rather march straight to hell, condemning those who love you enough to warn you of the peril your in.

 

[Taken]

There is no trinity in the Bible,

Disagree.

Trinity is Is Tri (3) United…
That MAKES ONE WHOLE.

The Description is Biblical…

Triune-
Person…is the One WHOLE of a Human Being…
Body, Soul, Spirit.

Often, typically, given 3 Names + nicknames.
…ex. John Paul Jones (Johnny, Paulie)

Often, typically, has multiple Titles.
..ex. Dad, Mister, CEO, President, etc.

Often, typically has multiple descriptions
..ex. Intelligent, idiot, polite, thief, etc.

Usual, not all others address that one person by the same Names or Titles or descriptions.

Ex. Scripture;
Simon bar Jona
Simon bar Jona Peter.
Fisherman.
Disciple.
Denier.
Witness.
Believer.
Apostle.
Preacher.

Triune-
God…is the One WHOLE of the Creator Being.
Body, Soul, Spirit

Often, is called by Multiple Names.
..ex. Yahweh, Jehovah, Jesus.

Often, typically has multiple Titles.
…ex. Lord, Chief, Priest.

Often, typically has multiple descriptions.
…ex. Creator, Maker, Father, Son, Savior, Word, Truth…

Usual, not all persons address that ONE, by the Same Names, Titles, Descriptions.

Ex. Scripture:
Is, was, shall be.
Triune —-> Lord God Almighty
Lord ——-——-> Son——> Lord
God ————--> Father—> God
Almighty —---> Christ—> Almighty

Trust the WORD.

John 10:
[30] I am MY father ARE ONE.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

The false gospel is loved by the whole world, because it declares that God loves every single person on the planet unconditionally.

Disagree.

God DOES LOVE All of His Creations…

God ALSO HATES many of those He LOVES…

Problem is… you reveal you do not know the meanings of LOVE and HATE, thus fail to understand Both (love and hate) can Apply to one same person.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Armour of God]

You need to either repent of the evil thig you said or own it. You can't wiggle you way out of the charge against you. You lied about Israel, (Satan is the father of liars and you just proved yourself to be one of His children).

You never defended the charges I bought against you, I quoted you and you still deny it. Your Father didn't tell you that you need a good memory, if you're going to be a convincing liar.

What evidence do you have that "Israel is as bad as the Islamic nations"?????? answer Zero evidence, you're just foolish liar.

What evidence do you have that Israel is "always bombing or attacking someone"??????????????? answer Zero.......... your just a foolish liar.

You haven't fooled anyone, except for yourself.

For the 4th time I didn't say what you claimed.
You are exposing yourself as a liar
Satan is the father of lies

 

[Wrangler]

And can I ask what indoctrination was provided to you in a nation that has children from a very young age reciting the oath of allegiance?

Ordo amoris

 

[n2thelight]

As a Christian we must recognize that the modern state of Israel is anti-Christ. Most of the jews there despise Christians. However, it is a stable democratic state in the midst of extreme Islamic fundamental nations. It is in the best interest of the USA, as well as Europe, to provide support for such a crucial ally.

There's no however... Heck they're not even Jew's

 

[Wrangler]

Christians have no nationality spiritually speaking.....we are God’s Nation

Fiction. The way you know what you are saying contradicts the Bible is the Great Commission. It recognized the nations of the world and with no command to conquer them into a united Christian Kingdom, they will remain separate State, like the united states, united under God.

 

[n2thelight]

The "state" of? No. The Israeli bloodline? Yes.

They are not of the bloodline , Khazar's

 

[Wrangler]

I did acknowledge it and added the words of Jesus to confirm it. Did you not read John 17:16?
Short attention span again Wrangler?

Yea, I guess I didn't see that you acknowledged that the Bible verse you cited claiming Jesus said have "no part" in the world was a false claim. What post did you do this acknowledging again?

The rest of your post is all kinds of messed up.

 

[Wrangler]

Do you understand anything in the Bible?

Nice!

Christians cannot be a part of the world and its conflicts

Bold statement after centuries and millions of Christians acting contrary to your pacifist ideology. Not too much humility there.

 

[Wrangler]

And with what army will he come?

Means and ends. He'll come with whatever army he can muster, as all military commanders do. As the countless Christian nations have done over centuries.

 

[ProDeo]

• Threat of retaliation: US President Donald Trump threatened to “blow up” the world’s largest gas field, a key Iranian asset, if Tehran keeps up its attacks on Qatar. He also said the US “knew nothing” about Israel’s plan to strike the South Pars field yesterday. Oil and natural gas prices soared again as energy facilities in the region came under attack.

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Israel has its own agenda.

 

[Wrangler]

if you want to be ‘a friend of the world, you make yourself an enemy of God’. (James 4:4)

Isn't this the same James that wrote @ 2:18 "I will show you my faith by my good deeds.” These good deeds are done as a part of this world.

 

[Wrangler]

I’m glad that you acknowledge the difference, because Christian principles preclude any involvement in bloodshed

LOL So says you. The facts of history say otherwise. What an IDOL of passivity you have created.

 

[Wrangler]

Sorry I didn't know you were Biblically illiterate

This you say after I cited 2 Bible verses proving your hypocrisy!

I'm not going to list a truck load of verses to prove a Bible doctrine that anyone claiming to be a Christian should already know. I don't have the time to teach you, so I suggest you go and join a bible class for beginners then come back when you learn the basics.

Do you believe these posts reflect the Spirit of Christ? Can you imagine Jesus talking this way?

 

[Wrangler]

Gen 9: 5-6…To Noah after his exit from the ark, Jehovah said….
“Besides that, I will demand an accounting for your lifeblood. I will demand an accounting from every living creature; and from each man I will demand an accounting for the life of his brother. 6  Anyone shedding man’s blood, by man will his own blood be shed, for in God’s image He made man.”

So, you hold this as a prohibition against capital punishment, shedding man's blood, when God commanded the death penalty in Numbers 15?

You are the one twisting Scripture in an attempt to suit you. You are confusing the burden we have to do justice, which includes most importantly war, with murder.

 

[Wrangler]

Did Jesus meddle in the politics of his day?

Yes! He was executed for treason, claiming to be the King of the Jews.

No

Matthew 27:37
A sign was fastened above Jesus’ head, announcing the charge against him. It read: “This is Jesus, the King of the Jews.”

You are not a Bible student are you

I always know when you've lost an argument because you resort to Ad Hominem. You asked a question and I answered it with Scriptural support.

Appears you are the one who is not a student of the Bible. But I know that is not true. You're just indoctrinated with JW ideology, refusing to see the facts favorable to me in light of the Scripture I've presented. That's on you.

 

[Wrangler]

Israel has its own agenda.

Shouldn't sovereign countries have their own agenda? For America, MAGA. For Israel, MIGA, etc?

I don't know what the significance of any targets in Iran, be it South Pars field or anything else. However, I find it odd that you give Iran a total pass on attacking Qatar. What's up with that?