ACTS 2:21 AND ROMANS 10:13 CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD

[Doug]

In both Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 Joel is being quoted
Joel was prophecy for Israel.
Joel was not given to us the church the body of Christ. We can make some application to us as well.

[Joel 2:28 KJV] "And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"
[Joel 2:29 KJV] "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit."
[Joel 2:30 KJV] "And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke."
[Joel 2:31 KJV] "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come."
[Joel 2:32 KJV] "And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." ************** Beginning in Acts 2:16 Peter quotes Joel to explain to the Jews what was happening. In v30 he says that Christ was raised to sit on David's throne in the millennial kingdom on earth. In v40 he admonished them to save themselves from this untoward generation just as John the Baptist warned them the kingdom was at hand. He was telling them to repent because the kingdom was still being preached. Before the kingdom would be established, they would face the tribulation and the day of the Lord.

Acts is directed to Israel to repent for the coming tribulation and the day of Lord preceding the millennial kingdom.

In Romans 10 Paul is speaking about Israel's salvation. In v8 he quotes Deuteronomy ********** [Deuteronomy 30:14 KJV] "But the word [is] very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it." ********** In Deuteronomy God was appealing to the scattered Jews to obey his voice, and he would gather them and bring them into the promised land. In v6 and v8 he promises them the new covenant, in which, he will cause them to keep his law. In v11-14 God tells them his law is not hidden from them, but it's in their mouth and heart to do them by believing. In Romans Paul's desire was for Israel's salvation. Israel was pursing salvation by the law and Paul was saying in v4 that Christ was the end of the law for salvation. ****** [Romans 10:13 KJV] "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." *********** The righteous by faith in Christ was in their mouth and hearts, they just had to believe. Israel had to confess with their mouth that Jesus was their Christ and the Son of God. They had to believe he rose from the dead to establish their kingdom. Israel had to call upon the name of Christ.

We too call upon the name of Christ and believe he died for our sins rose from the dead for our justification, but this was for Israel's salvation and was not speaking of us the church, the body of Christ. In Romans 11 Paul will go onto to say Israel will be saved when The Lord Jesus Christ saves Jerusalem from attack at his coming.
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[ElieG12]

The Scriptures are clear regarding the ministry that was brought to the Gentiles. They came to form part of the kingdom alongside the Jews who had accepted Jesus as the Messiah. It is not necessary to be a physical Jew to be counted among those whom Jesus calls "brothers" in John 20:17.

The Scripture states the following concerning those who are saved from the Great Tribulation:

Rev. 7:9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
... 13 In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God, and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down on them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them and will guide them to springs of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”

 

[Lambano]

Notice what Paul is saying here:

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of YHWH shall be saved.

Two points:

• There is no difference between how Jews and Gentiles are saved.
• Since Paul is quoting Joel 2:32, "the name of the Lord" that is called upon for salvation is the one Joel wrote: YAHWEH. The Father. Not Jesus.

 

[ElieG12]

It is also fair to acknowledge that the Christian Greek Scriptures speak of "calling upon the name of Jesus." However, in this instance, this does not refer to Joel 2:32, but rather to the act of publicly acknowledging that—thanks to Jesus' sacrifice and teachings—the holy spirit was poured out upon his early disciples, anointing them to preach the good news regarding the future Kingdom of God with authority.

In fact, the Greek word translated as "call upon" is the same one translated as "appeal," as when Paul said: "I appeal to Caesar." The apostles received their authority from God through Jesus, for Jesus received the holy spirit from the Father—which he then poured out upon them.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

In both Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 Joel is being quoted
Joel was prophecy for Israel.
Joel was not given to us the church the body of Christ. We can make some application to us as well.

[Joel 2:28 KJV] "And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"
[Joel 2:29 KJV] "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit."
[Joel 2:30 KJV] "And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke."
[Joel 2:31 KJV] "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come."
[Joel 2:32 KJV] "And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." ************** Beginning in Acts 2:16 Peter quotes Joel to explain to the Jews what was happening. In v30 he says that Christ was raised to sit on David's throne in the millennial kingdom on earth. In v40 he admonished them to save themselves from this untoward generation just as John the Baptist warned them the kingdom was at hand. He was telling them to repent because the kingdom was still being preached. Before the kingdom would be established, they would face the tribulation and the day of the Lord.

Acts is directed to Israel to repent for the coming tribulation and the day of Lord preceding the millennial kingdom.

In Romans 10 Paul is speaking about Israel's salvation. In v8 he quotes Deuteronomy ********** [Deuteronomy 30:14 KJV] "But the word [is] very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it." ********** In Deuteronomy God was appealing to the scattered Jews to obey his voice, and he would gather them and bring them into the promised land. In v6 and v8 he promises them the new covenant, in which, he will cause them to keep his law. In v11-14 God tells them his law is not hidden from them, but it's in their mouth and heart to do them by believing. In Romans Paul's desire was for Israel's salvation. Israel was pursing salvation by the law and Paul was saying in v4 that Christ was the end of the law for salvation. ****** [Romans 10:13 KJV] "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." *********** The righteous by faith in Christ was in their mouth and hearts, they just had to believe. Israel had to confess with their mouth that Jesus was their Christ and the Son of God. They had to believe he rose from the dead to establish their kingdom. Israel had to call upon the name of Christ.

We too call upon the name of Christ and believe he died for our sins rose from the dead for our justification, but this was for Israel's salvation and was not speaking of us the church, the body of Christ. In Romans 11 Paul will go onto to say Israel will be saved when The Lord Jesus Christ saves Jerusalem from attack at his coming.
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You are a mess.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Once again you offer nothing to a discussion by not discussing scripture

Because you refuse to consider how Jews used phrases and how words were used in Jesus day- yo0u reach false conclusions. If a Jew does not trust in the death and resurrection of Jesus since Pentecost- they are not saved. You need to learn what "calling on a name" meant to those who wrote it and not how your ego thinks it says.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

So we cant know by reading scripture. We have to know Jewish phrases an what words mean to Jews. Where do we go to find what they really mean?

Only if you wish to understand correctly, yes. Let me give an extreme example:

We have a euphemism that goes "it is hot as hell". If a person doesn't know our culture and use of language, they may think it was destructively7 hot! this is extreme but I think you get my point.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The church the body of Christ didnt begin at Pentecost. It began with Paul's coversion after Acts 9
Pentecost was a Jewish feast in which Peter admonished them to repent and believe on Christ to be saved from the coming tribulation and day of the Lord

You are just wrong! No matter how many times you say so! Peter and all in the upper room were part of the body of christ. Get used to it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Show me where scripture talks about the body of Christ before Paul's epistles.
Show me scripture where there was no division between Jew and Gentile as in the body of Christ

Ephesians 2

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.


Entrance into teh Body of Christ is by Spirit baptism. that began at Pentecost!

So you are saying we cant rely on what scripture says because it's Jewish idioms, which go unexplained in the text
You are denying the Word of God and saying did God realy say?

What I am saying is that one should educate themselves in the original language and culture to learn what is said by the inspired authors. Remember you are reading a translation and not the original inspired word s

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I dont think you understood what I asked..................
Show me where scripture talks about the body of Christ before Paul's epistles.
Show me scripture where there was no division between Jew and Gentile before Paul's epistles

Show me scripture that says from Pentecost until you say, people being saved were not part of the body of Christ.

Was Cornelius not part of the body? He was saved before Paul and was a Gentile?

As for the Jew and Gentil? You are silly! The gospel started as jesus commanded, Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and then the Gentiles. Believe it or not- it took time to go vrom Jerusalem to teh gentile lands as is evidenced by Scripture.

Paul said entrance into teh body was by Spirit Baptism. show me where all teh Jewish believers beforfe Paul who were baptized by the spirit were seperate from the OT saints and the body of christ!

Pentecost was a fulfillment of Joel pertaining only to Israel
Peter didnt preach the cross he told them to repent and save themselves from the coming day of the LORD

Already answered this heresy two threads ago.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Good way to avoid having to respond to my asking you for scripture
There is mention to there being a church, but no verse before Paul calling the church the body of Christ

Well you said the church didn't start until Paul, I am asking you for proof.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

What is the church but the body of Christ. If you have proof there were two churches existing side by side- put up or shut up

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Peter wasnt preaching the body of Christ

Cornelius was a devout Jewish proselyte ************* [Acts 10:2 KJV] "[A] devout [man], and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway."

nothing here says he was Jewish. He could not have been a roman Centurion and be Jewish!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Jesus commanded them to preach the gospel of the kingdom, which was the millennial kingdom on earth ********** [Matthew 10:6 KJV] "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
[Matthew 10:7 KJV] "And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Absolutely! Until Israel committed the unpardonable sin in Matt. 12. After that point, the gospel of the kingdom ceased. then Jesus commanded Pater and the others to preach the gospel of salvation through faith in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus.

You love saying if it doesn't say it in Scripture it didn't happen, well find a point other than in the tribulation when the kingdom gospel is preached after the unpardonable sin.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Jews were only water baptized

Prove it! Gods word calls you a liar!

Acts:2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I cant respond right now
I am awaiting review from administrators
Angelina doest agree with my post Peter preached another gospel

It is right for her to disagree! for Peter preached the sme gospel as Paul as far as salvation goes. If these administrators are godly men, I do hope they soundly rebuke your heretical teachings.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

[Acts 2:46 KJV] "And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart," ********** The church added to at Pentecost met in the temple with Peter as prominent apostle
The body of Christ met in houses

RE-read Acts 2:46 again! They went from house to house. and being all Jews, yes they would have met in the temple as Paul also did. Straining at gnats and swallowing camels.

Jews were washed by water in the old testament
Jesus's disciples were water baptized
They were spirit baptized at Pentecost but this wasnt into the body of Christ. They were spirit baptized according to prophecy in Joel

So the Apostles and all their converts (outside of Paul) are not part of the body of Christ according to you. Gods Word says different.

No scripture exists where this happened

Yup Matthew 12! But you have a hard enough time reading plain simple English, I would not expect you to see the nuances of the judgment jesus pronounced in Matt. 12

The kingdom offer was withdrawn until the tribulation

No, until the Millennial kingdom when Israel will receive the kingdom and their king!

a proselyte isnt Jewish

Doesn't even say He is a proselyte. that is you making stuff up again to force your beliefs on the Word of God. If the centurion converted to Judaism, he would have lost his position, being a Roman and a high army official. See you can learn that if you would look into history instead of just your own ideas.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

They ate house to house but worshipped in the temple

Means nothing! You are straining at gnats to swallow camels. They were Jews! they would worship in the temple as fulfilled Jews aqnd now part of the body of christ.

ifferent where? Chapter/verse please

Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

From Pentecost on all who accepted christ were baptized by the spirit into one body. You need to show where the spirit was baptizing people into 2 bodies.

Verse please

Matt.12:22-45 Read carefully and in context.

[Matthew 24:14 KJV] "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." ******** the end is the end of the tribulation

Yep that gospel is preached in the trib. Just as I said

It saus he was a centurion and devout

And if you bothered to read you would know that a Roman Centurion would have been stripped of rank or killed if he converted to Judaism. That is the fact of life in that day.

 

[PS95]

Notice what Paul is saying here:

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of YHWH shall be saved.

Two points:

• There is no difference between how Jews and Gentiles are saved.
• Since Paul is quoting Joel 2:32, "the name of the Lord" that is called upon for salvation is the one Joel wrote: YAHWEH. The Father. Not Jesus.

Seems either you have created a logical non sequitur in Romans ,or you do not understand what calling on " the name of" means or both?
please see the verse in context below.
also -Joel 2:32 is clearly Messianic- as in Acts @ Pentecost where Peter quotes it.
and
Consider,
Acts 4: 10-12
10let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11“He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. 12“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”


Romans
8But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE PUT TO SHAME.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for “EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”

14How then are they to call on Him in whom they have not believed? How are they to believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how are they to hear without a preacher? 15But how are they to preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written: “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
16However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?” 17So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. ( Isaiah 52, 53)*

18But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? On the contrary:

“THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH,

AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.” 19But I say, surely Israel did not know, did they? First Moses says,

“I WILL MAKE YOU JEALOUS WITH THOSE WHO ARE NOT A NATION,

WITH A FOOLISH NATION I WILL ANGER YOU.” 20And Isaiah is very bold and says,

“I WAS FOUND BY THOSE WHO DID NOT SEEK ME,

I REVEALED MYSELF TO THOSE WHO DID NOT ASK FOR ME.” 21But as for Israel, He says, “I HAVE SPREAD OUT MY HANDS ALL DAY LONG TO A DISOBEDIENT AND OBSTINATE PEOPLE.”

I ask you, Lambano- What name were the apostles to preach to the world and call on?
Note what Paul said here-
1 Cor 1:2
To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

Acts 22:16
15 For you will be a witness for Him to all men of what you have seen and heard. 16 Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’

Acts 9:21
All those hearing him continued to be amazed, and were saying, “Is this not he who in Jerusalem destroyed those who called on this name, and who had come here for the purpose of bringing them bound before the chief priests?”

John 14:14
If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

Eph 1:21
far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.

Colossians 3:17
And whatever you do, in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

John 3:18
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Matt 12:21
“And in His name the Gentiles will hope.”]

John 20:31
But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 1:2
But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God—


Phil 2:10
so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Isaiah 45:23
By Myself I have sworn; truth has gone out from My mouth, a word that will not be revoked: Every knee will bow before Me, every tongue will swear allegiance.
Romans 14:11
It is written: “As surely as I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before Me; every tongue will confess to God. in context below-

7For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11For it is written:
“As I live, says the Lord,
Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”
12So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13Therefore let us not judge one another [d]anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
14I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

1 John 3:23
And this is His commandment: that we should believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and we should love one another just as He commanded us.

1 John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

Acts 16:31
They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”

OF course we can call on a name all day long, but do we belong to HIM is all that matters.
Hope that helps!
Will He find faith on the earth?

 

[LoveYeshua]

In both Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 Joel is being quoted
Joel was prophecy for Israel.
Joel was not given to us the church the body of Christ. We can make some application to us as well.

[Joel 2:28 KJV] "And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"
[Joel 2:29 KJV] "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit."
[Joel 2:30 KJV] "And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke."
[Joel 2:31 KJV] "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come."
[Joel 2:32 KJV] "And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." ************** Beginning in Acts 2:16 Peter quotes Joel to explain to the Jews what was happening. In v30 he says that Christ was raised to sit on David's throne in the millennial kingdom on earth. In v40 he admonished them to save themselves from this untoward generation just as John the Baptist warned them the kingdom was at hand. He was telling them to repent because the kingdom was still being preached. Before the kingdom would be established, they would face the tribulation and the day of the Lord.

Acts is directed to Israel to repent for the coming tribulation and the day of Lord preceding the millennial kingdom.

In Romans 10 Paul is speaking about Israel's salvation. In v8 he quotes Deuteronomy ********** [Deuteronomy 30:14 KJV] "But the word [is] very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it." ********** In Deuteronomy God was appealing to the scattered Jews to obey his voice, and he would gather them and bring them into the promised land. In v6 and v8 he promises them the new covenant, in which, he will cause them to keep his law. In v11-14 God tells them his law is not hidden from them, but it's in their mouth and heart to do them by believing. In Romans Paul's desire was for Israel's salvation. Israel was pursing salvation by the law and Paul was saying in v4 that Christ was the end of the law for salvation. ****** [Romans 10:13 KJV] "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." *********** The righteous by faith in Christ was in their mouth and hearts, they just had to believe. Israel had to confess with their mouth that Jesus was their Christ and the Son of God. They had to believe he rose from the dead to establish their kingdom. Israel had to call upon the name of Christ.

We too call upon the name of Christ and believe he died for our sins rose from the dead for our justification, but this was for Israel's salvation and was not speaking of us the church, the body of Christ. In Romans 11 Paul will go onto to say Israel will be saved when The Lord Jesus Christ saves Jerusalem from attack at his coming.
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The line you quoted from Epistle to the Romans 10:13, where Paul the Apostle repeats an older Scripture from Book of Joel 2:32. So even before Paul, this idea already existed: calling on the name of the Lord.

What did Jesus Christ Himself teach, and what did His twelve disciples teach with Him?

When Jesus spoke, He did not teach that calling His name alone is enough.

He said plainly:

In Gospel of Matthew 7:21 (ASV)
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.”

Here He shows a clear difference. Many will call Him “Lord,” but that alone does not save. What matters is doing the will of the Father.

Again He said in Gospel of Luke 6:46 (ASV)
“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”

So calling His name without obedience is empty.

He also said in Gospel of John 14:15 (ASV)
“If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments.”

Love, words, and calling His name must be joined with obedience.

His disciples understood this after learning from Him:

In First Epistle of John 2:3–4 (ASV), written by John the Apostle:
“And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar…”

This is very strong. Saying you know Him (or calling His name) without obedience is not true.

And Peter the Apostle said in Acts of the Apostles 2:38 (ASV):
“Repent ye, and be baptized… for the remission of your sins…”

So when people asked how to be saved, Peter did not say only “call the name.” He said repent, turn, and act.

Putting it all together in a simple way:

Calling on the name of the Lord is not just saying words. In the Bible, to “call on His name” means to truly turn to Him, trust Him, and follow Him.

Jesus shows that words alone are not enough.
The disciples confirm that obedience, repentance, and walking in His commands are required.

In truth, Calling His name is the beginning,
but a life that follows His words is what shows it is real for either Jew or gentiles.

 

[Lambano]

Seems either you have created a logical non sequitur in Romans ,or you do not understand what calling on " the name of" means or both?

Let's do this, people: I want y'all to think about a few things:

1. Why did Paul write this letter to the Roman house churches? (Ever since Luther, Protestants have looked at Romans as a roadmap for how to get their ugly little butts saved, but Paul is writing to believers who come from both pagan and Jewish backgrounds and are presumably already saved.)

2. What is Paul's purpose in writing chapters 9-11? How does that serve Paul's overall purposes?

3. Why did Paul use the Joel quote as his prooftext? What point was he trying to make?