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Triumph1300
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Many Church goers have heard that before...."God Told Me'......
A quote used by cult leaders, meaning "don't argue, shut up...I know it all, I am in a direct line with God."
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Amazing to see these statements on a Christian Forum.
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Nope. Law abiding spirit.
Not too many threads here of Americans making many posts about politics in Canada or the Netherlands.
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Amazing it’s not more common on a Christian forum. In many centuries, millions of Christians knew war was necessary.
Triumph1300
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Trump support is now down into the high 20%, and still dropping fast.
Last week it was still around 33%.
The writing is on the wall.
Many have seen the light.
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High placed army officials have been fired by Trump and his War Secretary.
Good people are kicked out and replaced with cowards.
It's a sign the administration is crumbling.
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Inflation is up.
People are fed up.
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Last week it was still around 33%.
The writing is on the wall.
Many have seen the light.
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High placed army officials have been fired by Trump and his War Secretary.
Good people are kicked out and replaced with cowards.
It's a sign the administration is crumbling.
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Inflation is up.
People are fed up.
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Your interpretation of Romans 13 collide with what God said to Israel on the same subject.
Hos 8:1 Set the trumpet to your lips! One like a vulture is over the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant and rebelled against my law.
Hos 8:2 To me they cry, “My God, we—Israel—know you.”
Hos 8:3 Israel has spurned the good; the enemy shall pursue him.
Hos 8:4 They made kings, but not through me. They set up princes, but I knew it not. With their silver and gold they made idols for their own destruction.
Hos 8:5 I have spurned your calf, O Samaria. My anger burns against them. How long will they be incapable of innocence?
Hos 8:6 For it is from Israel; a craftsman made it; it is not God. The calf of Samaria shall be broken to pieces.
As you can see, crying to God, claiming Him, making kings, and yet God rejected them.
Scripture should explain Scripture and your interpretation of Romans 13 collides with Hosea.
You can call -- US is a nation under God -- (verse 2 applies), made kings (presidents) and yet rejected by God (verse 4).
Quite a different story there than your interpretation of Romans 13.
Triumph1300
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Not everybody is so dumb and stupid to support war criminals bombing schools, hospitals and sub divisions.
The administration is falling to pieces.
People are fed with war and arrogant people.
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quietthinker
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There were some on his left and some on his right. Both were oblivious to the reason given why they were there. The ones on his left were oblivious to their arrogance and self satisfaction, the ones on his right oblivious to their kindheartedness.
Now, that's a curious take!
Wrangler
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LOL. Your interpretation conflicts with Roman’s 13. Honestly, the length those with TDS go to try to deny the authority Gid gave Trump to DO JUSTICE in Iran. Same question to you, do you support Iran having a nuclear weapon?
You don't even want to discuss the Hosea Scripture I posted, you just snip it and than repeat your manta.
Dan Clarkston
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Weird to keep talking about one's manta, and what exactly is he "sniping"?
manta /măn′tə/
noun
- A rough-textured cotton fabric or blanket made and used in Spanish America and the southwest United States.
- A very large ray (Manta birostris) inhabiting tropical and subtropical seas, having a whiplike tail and two hornlike fins that project forward from the head, and feeding on plankton.
Triumph1300
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Dan Clarkston
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It's meaning has changed over time.
Originality in the 17-19 century going-Dutch meant, go to the Netherlands, they are tolerant, it's safe haven for everybody.
Over time going-Dutch the meaning changed to, the Dutch are stinginess, it's where who ends up paying the bill comes from. It's nonsense, even now anno 2026 in general the man pays the bill.
Regarding the 17-19 much praised Dutch tolerance does not exists any longer. On the contrary, Dutch society is heavily polarized mainly about immigration. When Angela Merkel said : Wir schaffen das welcoming millions Syrian refugees fleeing from the civil war I was deeply impressed and the Netherlands followed suit.
Thing is, it does not work, these politicians (living in good neighborhoods) overestimate the tolerance of its citizens who have to live with these refugees. Many of them are traumatized by the war and cause problems. And then of course there is Islam and it collides with the Dutch way of living.
Then there are the politicians, they debate, but nothing happens.
It's a mess.
Hosea again....
Hos 8:1 Set the trumpet to your lips! One like a vulture is over the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant and rebelled against my law.
Hos 8:2 To me they cry, “My God, we—Israel—know you.”
Hos 8:3 Israel has spurned the good; the enemy shall pursue him.
Hos 8:4 They made kings, but not through me. They set up princes, but I knew it not. With their silver and gold they made idols for their own destruction.
Hos 8:5 I have spurned your calf, O Samaria. My anger burns against them. How long will they be incapable of innocence?
Hos 8:6 For it is from Israel; a craftsman made it; it is not God. The calf of Samaria shall be broken to pieces.
What does this Scripture part tell you.
That old covenant is obsoleted, done, and no longer in effect
It passed 2000 years ago with Christ's resurrection.
Christ fulfilled the requirements of the LAW, and having died and been resurrected, there is a new law.
- Hebrews 7:11
If therefore perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Hebrews 7:16
who is made not according to the law of a carnal commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Hebrews 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did, by which we draw nigh unto God.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Hebrews 7:28
For the law maketh men high priests who have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which came since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Hebrews 8:4
For if He were on earth, He should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests who offer gifts according to the law,
New order of priesthood and a new law
All those under the law died, and did not obtain the promise .
But Christ has the power of an endless life
So to those who believe in Him, also have the same eternal life He has.
Hebrews 7:16
who is made not according to the law of a carnal commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.
www.biblegateway.com
1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins;
2 who can have compassion on the ignorant and on those who are outside of the Way, since he himself is also encompassed by infirmity.
3 And by reason hereof, he ought, both for the people and also for himself, to make offering for sins.
4 And no man taketh this honor unto himself, except he that is called by God, as was Aaron.
5 So also Christ glorified not Himself to be made a high priest, but He that said unto Him, “Thou art My Son; today have I begotten Thee.”
6 And He saith also in another place, “Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.”
7 Christ, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared,
8 though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered.
9 And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all those who obey Him,
10 being called by God as a high priest after the order of Melchizedek,
All those under the law died, and did not obtain the promise .
But Christ has the power of an endless life
So to those who believe in Him, also have the same eternal life He has.
Hebrews 7:16
who is made not according to the law of a carnal commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.
Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 5 - 21st Century King James Version
For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins; who can have compassion on the ignorant and on those who are outside of the Way, since he himself is also encompassed by infirmity. And by reason...
1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins;
2 who can have compassion on the ignorant and on those who are outside of the Way, since he himself is also encompassed by infirmity.
3 And by reason hereof, he ought, both for the people and also for himself, to make offering for sins.
4 And no man taketh this honor unto himself, except he that is called by God, as was Aaron.
5 So also Christ glorified not Himself to be made a high priest, but He that said unto Him, “Thou art My Son; today have I begotten Thee.”
6 And He saith also in another place, “Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.”
7 Christ, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared,
8 though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered.
9 And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all those who obey Him,
10 being called by God as a high priest after the order of Melchizedek,
Taken
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Wow… they who think it terrible to WALK in Spirit of God… very revealing!
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
We are not under the Mosaic Law, but does that mean fundamental principles like the 10 commandments no longer apply?
They do.
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Funny how you are unable to answer questions. Pathological really. Do you support a nuclear armed Iran?
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