Trump and Politics

[ProDeo]

Funny how you are unable to answer questions. Pathological really. Do you support a nuclear armed Iran?

 

[Triumph1300]

Changes are in the works:

Putin (Trump's friend) has now sent the frigate Admiral Grigorovich through the English Channel escorting Russian vessels, including the Sparta, a cargo ship previously linked to transporting military equipment to Syria.

Britain has threatened to crack down on sanctioned “shadow fleet” vessels helping fund Russia’s war machine, but Moscow appears to be treating those threats less like a red line and more like a polite suggestion.
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The Iranian war is having a major effect on the whole world.
The issue: OIL and a messed up supply chain.

Half of North American supplies come out of Asia.
Shortages and higher cost.
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The World Is Starting to Plan Around American Collapse.​

The war with Iran has quietly burned through a staggering share of America’s high-end munitions: over a thousand long-range stealth cruise missiles, more than a thousand Tomahawks, more than a thousand Patriot interceptors, and a similar number of precision strike systems.

Weapons you need for a real war with a real adversary.
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War mongers and Trump Worshippers, I wish you all a great day.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

So to those who believe in Him, also have the same eternal life He has.

As long as they abide IN Him, according to the New Covenant.

If they turn away from the Lord going back to walking after the flesh then the New Covenant promises no longer apply to therm as per warnings contain within the New Covenant

We are not under the Mosaic Law, but does that mean fundamental principles like the 10 commandments no longer apply?

They do.

That's because 9 of the 10 Commandments are listed in the New Covenant and the Sabbath has been upgraded to abiding IN Christ 24/7/365 as we rest in Him continually.

 

[ProDeo]

Hegseth says fight over Strait of Hormuz is "much more" Europe's "than ours"​

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth railed against European allies on Friday morning for not helping the US enough in its war against Iran, saying the US “barely” uses the Strait of Hormuz and that the situation “is much more their fight than ours.”

“We are not counting on Europe, but they need the Strait of Hormuz much more than we do, and might want to start doing less talking and having less fancy conferences in Europe and get in a boat,” Hegseth said during a Pentagon press briefing. “This is much more their fight than ours.”

Hegseth and President Donald Trump have repeatedly bashed US allies, particularly those in NATO, for not coming to the US’ aid after it began combat operations against Iran on February 28.

Trump lashed out against European allies last month, saying the US doesn’t “need any help actually” after insisting other countries should send naval assets to help escort oil tankers transiting the Strait of Hormuz.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/24/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon?post-id=cmocw0blj00003b6tbwo7a070

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Boring..........

Trump, Vance, Hegseth have no idea about the damage done here.

Beyond repair.

 

[Wrangler]

@ProDeo

Trump and Politics

Funny how you are unable to answer questions. Pathological really. Do you support a nuclear armed Iran?

www.christianityboard.com

Can't type "no." But you can find this attachment. LOL

 

[Scott Downey]

We are not under the Mosaic Law, but does that mean fundamental principles like the 10 commandments no longer apply?

They do.

ok, but we are not under that law of condemnation, that ministry of death.
And in v11, it has passed away.

verse 7 saying, "But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away"

Exactly those 10 commandments you mention

Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corinthians 3 - New King James Version

Christ’s Epistle - Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or do we need, as some others, epistles of commendation to you or letters of commendation from you? You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not...

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Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or do we need, as some others, epistles of commendation to you or letters of commendation from you? 2 You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

The Spirit, Not the Letter​

4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, 6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the [a]Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Glory of the New Covenant​

7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as [b]by the Spirit of the Lord.

 

[Wrangler]

Hegseth says fight over Strait of Hormuz is "much more" Europe's "than ours"​

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Boring..........

Trump, Vance, Hegseth have no idea about the damage done here.

Beyond repair.

You're not fooling anyone. Hegseth makes a boring statement of fact. But you cannot see how the responsibility for the damage done here is Europe's failure to act in the moment of truth.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

You're not fooling anyone. Hegseth makes a boring statement of fact. But you cannot see how the responsibility for the damage done here is Europe's failure to act in the moment of truth.

None the less the US and Israel started the take down of Iran so they should complete the job.

We have a very powerful Navy so they need to take complete control of the strait and return that international waterway back to where trade can freely flow thru it, minus Iran's ships to keep them from making money until their is regime change and the nutjobs are no longer in power.

Anything less than this is a defeat for the US and will end up being a cut and run as cowards situation.

 

[Wrangler]

None the less the US and Israel started the take down of Iran so they should complete the job.

The job is completed - the leadership has been taken out, the nuclear sites are no more, no more navy, no more air force, no missile building capacity.

Beyond that is how quagmires develop ... If other nations prefer the Straight of Hormuz to be open, they are free to do something about it other than complain. Also, the Iranian military is acting independent of the civilian authorities. I prefer the US just withdraw now. However, there are obvious benefits not to before the meeting with China.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The job is completed

Er, no it has not been completed.

You did notice Iran boarding merchant ships and recently were putting out new mines?

They still have missiles and drones to shoot and the nutjobs are still in power murdering their own people

They have not been defeated as of yet so the job is not done and reports are coming in that Trump is now wanting to cut and run because he's worried about the mid-term elections so we may end up leaving Iran where they are able to rebuild and continue business as usual.

the nuclear sites are no more

Iran still have the nuclear material to make nukes.

That has not been located and destroyed so they can eventually rebuild and use that material to make a few nukes.

So far the mission is actually a failed mission because regime change has not been achieved and the nuclear material to make nukes has not been located and destroyed. Our own military has said they have not located this material and we were planning on putting boots on the ground to go after this stuff which was put on hold with the cease fire.

Trump obviously does not understand how to deal with these moslems. They do not make deals to stand down. They must be taken out in order to stop them and the nutjobs are still in power so any deal that can be made will in fact result in Iran rebuilding and all of this is a waste of time.

If other nations prefer the Straight of Hormuz to be open, they are free to do something about it other than complain.

It was open for them before the US got involved and now it is closed due to our involvement.

It is our responsibility to return the strait back to how it was before our involvement.

I agree that NATO is weak and not wanting to provide for NATO, but it's wrong for someone to go cause a big problem and then tell others "you go fix it"

The US keeps saying we have an all powerful military that can do great things, so we need to step up and forget this cease fire negotiating bulloney and take care of business by finishing what we started.

If we don't finish the job then we become the laughing stock of the world and by leaving Iran with the ability to rebuild we are not doing what the Lord is wanting to be done (take down of Iran) which will result in God's judgement coming upon the US which will most likely end up being our economy tanking badly.

So now is the time for Trump to put up or shut up!

We'll see if he has the backbone he claims to have or not. Or if the moslems will play him for a fool and "make a deal" that leaves them being able to rebuild and go back to business as usual

 

[Ziggy]

I think what is really disturbing is that, was it January or February when the citizens of Iran took to the streets to protest and the IRGC came out guns a blazing and killed 30,000 protesters and the United Nations did NOTHING.

On the other hand we have 2 protesters that chose to obstruct law enforcement and got themselves killed and the whole country goes insane.

If we sat by and watched like the rest of the world, Trump would be blamed for not doing anything.
But because he is intervening and helping the citizens take back their country, he is a monster.

Since when is NOT helping your neighbor a good thing?

Iran said they had no long range ballistic missiles and then shot off 2 of them at their neighbors.
They Lied. That's what they do.
And for some odd reason the world wants to come to their defense.

We admire the abortionists, we want to free the criminals, we turn a blind eye to the people getting murdered and raped in our cities by people who don't belong here.
We think dismembering children and cutting off their private parts is good for them.

What a strange world we live in.
GODLESS even.

Hugs

 

[Dan Clarkston]

and the United Nations did NOTHING

Did you not understand that NATO is an organization put together to protect Europe?

You did know that Iran is not in Europe right?

 

[amigo de christo]

Scandalous.

Paula White - Every footstep I set that place is holy including the White House.

very true my friend . Now allow me a simple reminder .
Miss holla white is not alone . THE ECUMEINCAL WHORE LED
lie has long had men b eing called MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND .
The only dif ference between the popes and trump . HE just more obvious as HIS PRIDE and they cloake theirs in false humility .
But both are just as guilty in the eyes of THE RIGHTEOUS GOD . might i suggest we take an EXODUS
out of anything ECUMENCIAL and LETS NOT WAIT for the morrow , HOW A boUT today . And let us do an entrodus
BACK INTO THE BIBLE .

 

[Ziggy]

Did you not understand that NATO is an organization put together to protect Europe?

You did know that Iran is not in Europe right?

Yeah, that's why I said the Unted Nations and not NATO

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Yeah, that's why I said the United Nations and not NATO

Did you not understand that the United Nations is an organization put together to govern Europe?

You did know that Iran is not in Europe right?

 

[Ziggy]

Peacekeeping

Current operations​

• MINURSO, Western Sahara
• MINUSCA, Central African Republic
• MONUSCO, D.R. of the Congo
• UNDOF, Golan
• UNFICYP, Cyprus
• UNIFIL, Lebanon
• UNISFA, Abyei
• UNMIK, Kosovo
• UNMISS, South Sudan
• UNMOGIP, India and Pakistan
• UNTSO, Middle East

Where we operate | United Nations Peace Operations

Current operations MINURSO, Western SaharaMINUSCA, Central African RepublicMONUSCO, D.R. of the CongoUNDOF, GolanUNFICYP, CyprusUNIFIL, LebanonUNISFA, AbyeiUNMIK, KosovoUNMISS, South SudanUNMOGIP

peacekeeping.un.org

ok

 

[Dan Clarkston]

UN "peace keeping" is a joke.

If they went in to Iran they would have to go on the offensive

Since they are unwilling to do that, if they went in to Iran they would all be slaughtered.

The UN acts as a government, acting as a "united states" of Europe which is total different from NATO

Any government can go to some foreign land and put people on the ground as a humanitarian mission which is what those UN missions are that you listed.

They are not going to go in to a nation and do battle to do regime change which is the only way to solve the problems in Iran

This is why UN "peace keeping" is a joke as they are not putting down the bad actors that need to be put down such as the nutjobs running Iran

The actions the US started against Iran is starting to look like a joke as well since the nutjobs are still in power having the ability to rebuild later and cause all kinds of new problems including building nukes with the enriched uranium that they still have in their possession

 

[Ziggy]

UN "peace keeping" is a joke.

If they went in to Iran they would have to go on the offensive

Since they are unwilling to do that, if they went in to Iran they would all be slaughtered.

The UN acts as a government, acting as a "united states" of Europe which is total different from NATO

Any government can go to some foreign land and put people on the ground as a humanitarian mission which is what those UN missions are that you listed.

They are not going to go in to a nation and do battle to do regime change which is the only way to solve the problems in Iran

This is why UN "peace keeping" is a joke as they are not putting down the bad actors that need to be put down such as the nutjobs running Iran

I agree. And seeing others walk on by the US decided to stand up where others wouldn't.
We went in with a mission.
No nukes. No capability of making nukes. Remove whatever would make more missiles.
We went there to take out the weapons.
Israel on the other hand, their mission was/is regime change and to annihilate the IRGC.
Sometimes the roads cross.

But that didn't stop the IRGC.

And I believe the IRGC was charging like 2 million dollars per tanker for them to pass through.
Our argument is that international waters should not be umm tolled. They should have free passage.
Then The EU/London removed the tankers insurance which we offered to them instead.
Because like an automobile, no insurance, no drive.

So because they won't back down militarily we are going after them economically.
We shut down their oil storage capacity. If they can't empty their tankers, they can't refill them.
They will run out of places to store and eventually stop drilling.

The Iranian people have said that they want to take back their own country.
We are simply there assisting them and giving them a better chance to achieve that end.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

We are simply there assisting them and giving them a better chance to achieve that end.

Yeah we need to send the Kurds in and let them be boots on the ground as we support them and provide weapons to Iranian citizens so between them and the Kurds the nutjobs get toppled and Iran can have new government.

 

[Ziggy]

Yeah we need to send the Kurds in and let them be boots on the ground as we support them and provide weapons to Iranian citizens so between them and the Kurds the nutjobs get toppled and Iran can have new government.

Were you able to watch the News Conference this morning?

April 24, 2026

Secretary Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chair Hold News Conference Amid Iran Conflict​

Secretary Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chair Hold News Conference Amid Iran Conflict

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Dan Caine held a news conference to update on the status of Operation Epic Fury against Iran. Hegseth said the naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz has expanded and ships will "shoot to kill, no hesitation" against Iranian vessels that...

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