What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

[amigo de christo]

Amigo, was Jesus a legalist also when explained to a man to keep the commandments to enter into life?

Mat 19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Mat 19:19 Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet?

Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions.

Mat 19:23 And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mat 19:25 And when the disciples heard it, they were astonished exceedingly, saying, Who then can be saved?

Mat 19:26 And Jesus looking upon them said to them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee; what then shall we have?

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that ye who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Mat 19:29 And every one that hath left houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall inherit eternal life.

Mat 19:30 But many shall be last that are first; and first that are last.

Jesus did specify to keep the Ten Commandments. as for the law of Moses only a few were kept for gentiles as in acts 15 Jesus was crystal clear about the ten commandments, His words have FULL authority in Heaven and earth.

that is my point . todays folks WOULD and DO call JESUS a legalist .
Heck they would call HIM and the apostels legalstic phrarisees . Friend if i had a quarter for every time
i been given such titles and WORSE , i would rival the value of gold in this world . course that is a bit of an overexaggeration
BUT I HOPE IT MAKES MY POINT . Dont let meats dr inks and days turn you agaisnt me my friend .
You go r ather and follow me around and see what and WHO i mainly focus on and what and who i so of ten warn against .
Dont let meats drinks and days make me the enemy . I judge no man for their meats drinks and days .
TO each his own . LEST Of c ourse blood be involved or sacfice to idols .
Dont let something WE WERE NEVER EVER suppposed to have warred over make me the enemy .
I DO as did paul . and as even the apostels who answered this question so many had .
WITH the answer of
AS for the gentiles we have CONCLUDED . now go read what follows that .
I support any who celebrates them feasts , what i dont do is JUDGE those who dont .
And in case you have not realized this as of yet , have you noticed our big fat religoin that unites all religoins
is fast to also start pointing us back to THE LAW and JUDAISM , IN THE WRONG LIGHT TOO .
AS IF the abraham peace accords IS NOT A LIE . IT IS A LIE . And so many gentiles now desire to become jews
at least in religoin . JESUS , yeah NOT MUCh talk about HIM anymore .
Not much doing what we should . Too many are now focusing on days meats and drinks , a false love , a unifying force
THAT OH YEAH GONNA SIT HIGH OVER JERUSALEM and THE INCLUSIVE RELIGOIN of all . WHICH BE OF ANTI CHRIST of course .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amigo, was Jesus a legalist also when explained to a man to keep the commandments to enter into life?

Mat 19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Mat 19:19 Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet?

Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions.

Mat 19:23 And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mat 19:25 And when the disciples heard it, they were astonished exceedingly, saying, Who then can be saved?

Mat 19:26 And Jesus looking upon them said to them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee; what then shall we have?

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that ye who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Mat 19:29 And every one that hath left houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall inherit eternal life.

Mat 19:30 But many shall be last that are first; and first that are last.

Jesus did specify to keep the Ten Commandments. as for the law of Moses only a few were kept for gentiles as in acts 15 Jesus was crystal clear about the ten commandments, His words have FULL authority in Heaven and earth.

i was exposing that term he uses . LEGALSIM . IT dont exist . THEY simply use it as a means TO SIN and to accuse
those who do correct OF BEING legaistlic .

 

[LawofLove]

Your words from your post #213

The Sabbath was made for man, that's what I meant, man was made first, than the Sabbath made for man.

 

[David in NJ]

Reader beware for though what you wrote is correct , I SEEN this used to fo re ver silence the voices
of those who do correct sin and do warn .
Phrases souding real good yet often used for a very dark and sinistir purpose . TO FULLFILL the desires
of the judge not correct not klan . OH i seen it used david and far more than once .
Religion is and can darn sure be an outward appearance all right .
BUT if one claims to KNOW GOD , HIS CHRIST and their outward appearance be not HOLY but rather wordly
and going with the flow . OH DEAR THAT INSIDE HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED .
OH how religious would and do they make EVEN PAUL , PETER < JAMES < JESUS HIMSELF appear
by their versions of the so called jesus and spirit they talk about .
SO watch OUT . YOU remember HOW very grave paul and them all were ab out SIN , ever once in the churches .
YOU keep that in mind .
THIS sheep only gonna double down on my warnings . And to warn all to beware a sensual unity
of a lets just get along mindset . I already seen the damage that inflicted upon the churches . MAJOR damage .
Course i aint saying you have anything TO DO WITH that false stuff . JUST reminding you , THIS brother
IS gonna remain grave , IS gonna warn anytime i see any kind of error and false doctrine . And do so quickly i must and shall .

JESUS Says to us: "Walk in the LIGHT"

The LIGHT is CHRIST and all that HE commanded us.

We have the Gospel and NT Scriptures that detail for us what we are to do and NOT do!

We feed on every word that has proceeded from the Mouth of God = Matt 4:4

 

[amigo de christo]

The Sabbath was made for man, that's what I meant, man was made first, than the Sabbath made for man.

and why was it made .
SO MAN , his man and maid servant even his beasts could have rest from their labors .
Beautiful isnt it . And now a word that both the law and the prophets pointed too .
COME YE UNTO ME all you who do labor and are weary and ye shall FIND REST for your SOULS .
WHEN mr paul was later writing to the hebrews
And said let us strive to enter into THAT REST . OH ELLEN WAS DEAD WRONG on the sabbath rest SHE PONTED TOO .
SHE POINTED TO THE LAW , NOT THE JESUS THE CHRIST TO WHOM PUAL was pointing them too .
EVEN the LAW points to JESUS . OH YES . THE very promises given unto abraham and the fathers
POINT TO JESUS . not the law but TO JESUS . The law is for sure good and holy and true .
But ellie led her people to destruction . SHE POINTED to a false return of JESUS with this pile of what she called
investigative judgment and she pointed to the wrong day my friend .
PAUL spoke OF JESUS in hebrews . not the sabbath rest but THE SABBATH REST . just a f riendly reminder to us all .

 

[David in NJ]

Amigo, was Jesus a legalist also when explained to a man to keep the commandments to enter into life?

Mat 19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Mat 19:19 Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet?

Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions.

Mat 19:23 And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mat 19:25 And when the disciples heard it, they were astonished exceedingly, saying, Who then can be saved?

Mat 19:26 And Jesus looking upon them said to them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee; what then shall we have?

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that ye who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Mat 19:29 And every one that hath left houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall inherit eternal life.

Mat 19:30 But many shall be last that are first; and first that are last.

Jesus did specify to keep the Ten Commandments. as for the law of Moses only a few were kept for gentiles as in acts 15 Jesus was crystal clear about the ten commandments, His words have FULL authority in Heaven and earth.

What are the commandments that JESUS stressed to this young wealthy Jewish man?

 

[amigo de christo]

JESUS Says to us: "Walk in the LIGHT"

The LIGHT is CHRIST and all that HE commanded us.

We have the Gospel and NT Scriptures that detail for us what we are to do and NOT do!

We feed on every word that has proceeded from the Mouth of God = Matt 4:4

Nor shall i heed miss ELLIE white .
For what i say to one i say to all .
ellie not only preached a blasphemous investigative judg ment
That lady had no idea WHO and WHAT paul was talking about
WHEN he wrote to the hebrews ,
let us strive to ENTER INTO THAT REST , lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF .
ELLIE pointed them to the sabbath day , NOT THE as in THE SABBATH REST of GOD IN JESUS CHRIST .
WHO cried to all
COME YE unto ME all you who do labor and are weary and YE shall FIND rest for your souls .
PAUL was POINTING THEM TO JESUS . TO JESUS . TO FAITH IN JESUS . and that is a fact my friend . a solid fact
if one would but read their bible .

 

[David in NJ]

Nor shall i heed miss ELLIE white .
For what i say to one i say to all .
ellie not only preached a blasphemous investigative judg ment
That lady had no idea WHO and WHAT paul was talking about
WHEN he wrote to the hebrews ,
let us strive to ENTER INTO THAT REST , lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF .
ELLIE pointed them to the sabbath day , NOT THE as in THE SABBATH REST of GOD IN JESUS CHRIST .
WHO cried to all
COME YE unto ME all you who do labor and are weary and YE shall FIND rest for your souls .
PAUL was POINTING THEM TO JESUS . TO JESUS . TO FAITH IN JESUS . and that is a fact my friend . a solid fact
if one would but read their bible .

if one would but read their bible and pray for the Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Truth that grants to us understanding

 

[David in NJ]

The Sabbath was made for man, that's what I meant, man was made first, than the Sabbath made for man.

If that is what you meant, please go back and correct it so that you are not speaking against Christ

 

[LawofLove]

and why was it made .
SO MAN , his man and maid servant even his beasts could have rest from their labors .
Beautiful isnt it . And now a word that both the law and the prophets pointed too .
COME YE UNTO ME all you who do labor and are weary and ye shall FIND REST for your SOULS .
WHEN mr paul was later writing to the hebrews
And said let us strive to enter into THAT REST . OH ELLEN WAS DEAD WRONG on the sabbath rest SHE PONTED TOO .
SHE POINTED TO THE LAW , NOT THE JESUS THE CHRIST TO WHOM PUAL was pointing them too .
EVEN the LAW points to JESUS . OH YES . THE very promises given unto abraham and the fathers
POINT TO JESUS . not the law but TO JESUS . The law is for sure good and holy and true .
But ellie led her people to destruction . SHE POINTED to a false return of JESUS with this pile of what she called
investigative judgment and she pointed to the wrong day my friend .
PAUL spoke OF JESUS in hebrews . not the sabbath rest but THE SABBATH REST . just a f riendly reminder to us all .

The Sabbath rest is what God said it was for:

God wrote this and spoke it and told us not to edit His words. Deut4:2 Pro30:5-6 Ecc3:14 Mat5:18-19- Jesus never took this back not once.

Exo 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” — Exodus 20:8–11 (KJV)

Isa 58:13

““If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words” — Isaiah 58:13 (NKJV)

The Sabbath is something man does according to God- not something God does.

“Thus says the LORD: “Keep justice, and do righteousness, for soon my salvation will come, and my righteousness be revealed
Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who holds it fast, who keeps the Sabbath, not profaning it, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.”” — Isaiah 56:1–2 (ESV)


This idea that Christ keeps the Sabbath for us so we don't have to spend holy time with God on the day God set aside to do so, sounds good to the ears, we can do whatever we want with our time and do the opposite of what God said so plainly. Its sad this has became such a wide man-made doctrine over what the God of Creation said so plainly and He even wrote it out for us.

 

[amigo de christo]

What are the commandments that JESUS stressed to this young wealthy Jewish man?

more and more have no idea that the flesh profits nothing .
Nor that the religoins and christendom are all being led
right back to the VERY LAW and NOT RATHER TO JESUS CHRIST .
They call it love , they look to the jews as the PEOPLE of G OD
THIS inclusive religoin WILL be centered IN JERSUALEM . so marvel not
if its going to be patterened NOT AFTER THE GOD , CHRIST OF HEAVENLY JERSUALEM
but rather RIGHT BACK TO THE EARTHEN and TO THE LAW .
TO the law by which , LOVELY AS IT IS , NO MAN CAN BE JUSTIFIED .
I am gonna fight this my friend . I am gonna fight against this inclusive false love religoin
No matter what it will cost to me . I shall POINT ONLY TO JESUS CH RIST
and LET GOD be TRUE , HIS EVERY WORD IS TRUE
and from genesis to the law and prophets , THEY and the law
POINTED TO THIS VERY SAME ONE I AM GONNA CONTINUE TO POINT TOO . IT IS JESUS my friend .
I TELL US ALL there is NO HOPE for man outside OF JESUS CHRIST . SO HE i shall point too .

 

[LawofLove]

If that is what you meant, please go back and correct it so that you are not speaking against Christ

I would consider holding yourself to your own same standard.

 

[amigo de christo]

if one would but read their bible and pray for the Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Truth that grants to us understanding

Yep . And what did JESUS say . ASK and it shall be given THEE
for how much MORE shall my FATHER give THE SPIRIT to those WHO DO ask .
Yes indeed my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

The rest is what God said the Sabbath was for:

God wrote this and spoke it and told us not to edit His words. Deut4:2 Pro30:5-6 Ecc3:14 Mat5:18-19

Exo 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” — Exodus 20:8–11 (KJV)

Isa 58:13

““If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words” — Isaiah 58:13 (NKJV)

The Sabbath is something man does according to God- not something God does.

“Thus says the LORD: “Keep justice, and do righteousness, for soon my salvation will come, and my righteousness be revealed
Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who holds it fast, who keeps the Sabbath, not profaning it, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.”” — Isaiah 56:1–2 (ESV)


This idea that Christ keeps the Sabbath for us so we don't have to spend holy time with God on the day God set aside to do so sounds good to the ears, we can do whatever we want with our time and do the opposite of what God said so plainly. Its sad this has became such a wide man-made doctrine over what the God of Creation said so plainly and He even wrote it out for us.

i just sure hope you are not adventist nor that you are clinging to these many jewish movments within us .
I have zero problem with the keeping of the sabbath nor any of the cermonies .
but i have a problem with those WHO JUDGE THOSE WHO DO NOT do as they do .
Now this was also a rather big concern in the early church . THEY too had to gather with
THE APOSTELS . they sent men to JERSUALEM for this answer to the gentiles .
AND THE APOSTELS all wrote back .
The conclusion was , we conclude that the gentiles observe no such thing but that the keep themselves from ..........
Look either you think paul was nuts or not . but he wrote about the Sabbath , and other festival
AND SAID LET NO MAN JUDGE YOU in this . And yeah HE said sabbath too .
so here we go making ALL this big ado over meats drinks and days .
I HAVE an idea . BELIEVE AS YOU WILL , I shall as paul did . LETS KEEP IT TO OURSELVES
and judge not the other . RATHER judge this that NO MAN PUT A STUMBLING block befor his brother .
SO hey if i am ever in your town and you want me to come to your church and set before me whatever you want me to eat
or not eat . DO SO . I WILL eat as you do . BUT JUDGE NOT those who do not do so .

 

[LawofLove]

i just sure hope you are not adventist nor that you are clinging to these many jewish movments within us .
I have zero problem with the keeping of the sabbath nor any of the cermonies .
but i have a problem with those WHO JUDGE THOSE WHO DO NOT do as they do .
Now this was also a rather big concern in the early church . THEY too had to gather with
THE APOSTELS . they sent men to JERSUALEM for this answer to the gentiles .
AND THE APOSTELS all wrote back .
The conclusion was , we conclude that the gentiles observe no such thing but that the keep themselves from ..........
Look either you think paul was nuts or not . but he wrote about the Sabbath , and other festival
AND SAID LET NO MAN JUDGE YOU in this . And yeah HE said sabbath too .
so here we go making ALL this big ado over meats drinks and days .
I HAVE an idea . BELIEVE AS YOU WILL , I shall as paul did . LETS KEEP IT TO OURSELVES
and judge not the other . RATHER judge this that NO MAN PUT A STUMBLING block befor his brother .
SO hey if i am ever in your town and you want me to come to your church and set before me whatever you want me to eat
or not eat . DO SO . I WILL eat as you do . BUT JUDGE NOT those who do not do so .

I think Paul is being misunderstood here what he is referring to.

God is our Judge and He tells us what He Judges us on- His Words that He spoke - His commandments why we see the ark of the covenant that holds the Testimony of God the Ten Commandments at the last trumpet.

“He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day” — John 12:48 (NKJV)

“For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all
For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty” — James 2:10–12 (NKJV)

We can find the rest of what He who said in Exo20:1-17 again both written and spoken by God. Placed under His mercy seat that His blood atones for which was a copy of what is in heaven.

“Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us” — Hebrews 9:23–24 (NKJV)

Why we see the ark of God's covenant that holds the Ten Commandments- God's Testimony at the last trumpet on judgement day

“Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God
saying: “We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come, Because You have taken Your great power and reigned
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail” — Revelation 11:15–19 (NKJV)

Why one of the last verses in the Bible says this:

“Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city” — Revelation 22:14 (NKJV)

People think the Sabbath is just a day, but its way deeper than that. Man teaches to forget God said Remember. Whoever we obey is who we serve Rom6:16. Jesus is calling us back to worship the God of Creation Rev14:7 Exo20:11

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Using Paul to correct God is never a good idea, especially when Paul said plainly everything has to be according to Christ. Col2:8 Paul is a professed servant of God, not His corrector.

So instead of actually addressing the Words that directly proceeded out of the mouth of God Paul gets quoted out of context.

Here's an example...


The Ten Commandments is the ministry of death because the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 if not in Christ. But you missed the part where the Ten Commandments went from tablets of stone to tablets of the heart 2Cor3:3 God keeping His promise of not altering the words of His covenant Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19

The law is not the issue, Paul said the law is holy, just and good Rom7:12, the issue is our sinful flesh. Those who have the Spirit of God and His ministry are keeping God’s commandments through His Spirit John14:15-18 those who walk in the flesh do not subject themselves to the law of God nor indeed can they Rom8:7-8. Paul was not teaching people to be an enemy of God.



Regarding the context of Romans 14 where in Scripture can you quote where the word of God which is what Jesus called the commandment of God ever a doubtful disputation? God's own Testimony Exo31:18 a doubtful disputation? Verse please?


We have to remember about Paul's writings

Paul was inspired by god so he does not contradict God. The ten commandments were for Israel in the OT. But as he said in Galatians 3 under the inspiration of God:

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

the Command ifor the saturday sabbath IS the 4th COMMANDMENT Jesus did not abolish it nor should we. The 4th commandment as all the other 9's make the ten commandments, the Covenant, Jesus told us to enter heaven to keep the commandments. say what you want, but the truth about it was spoken by God in person and God does not change. Jesus , the 12 and Paul kept it, to say its for Israel only is absolutely false! To say it is Old covenant is absolutely false! I have posted scripture proving this here on this thread already. I can prove all I write here but you cannot prove and will never prove the sabbath command is abolished or was changed to another day. @David in NJ sorry David you're wrong on this one and cant prove it either.

I agree that Israelis are commanded to observe the Sabbath. It was never proposed to the church nor Gentiles as non -prosylytes to Judaism.

The Sabbath is a covenant between God and Israel as Gods Word explicitly declares.

 

[David in NJ]

Yep . And what did JESUS say . ASK and it shall be given THEE
for how much MORE shall my FATHER give THE SPIRIT to those WHO DO ask .
Yes indeed my friend .

Therefore, "not by works" but by faith in Christ and all HE Says to us

 

[Ronald Nolette]

That interpretation creates a problem with Jesus' own words. Jesus did not say, “I will fulfill the law at the cross and then it will disappear.” He first said, “I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil,” and immediately added, “Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law.” Heaven and earth are still here, so by Jesus' own condition the law had not passed away.

Also notice what Jesus did right after saying this. He did not weaken commandments, He made them deeper. He said do not only avoid murder, but avoid hatred. Do not only avoid adultery, but avoid lust in the heart (Matthew 5:21–28). If the cross ended the law, Jesus would not have strengthened it.

So you have3 a problem with the Apostle whop was instructed by Jesus to create the church in the Gentile world then.

Teh apostle Paul would call you a Judiazer.

 

[David in NJ]

I would consider holding yourself to your own same standard.

Of course

If you see something i said that is in direct opposition to the words of Christ and the Apostles, just let me know.