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You have no evidence, you have no evidence..
reeeeee

This is going to be fun.
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10 years is a long time to wait for justice.
Times Up

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You appear to have difficulty understanding.

A topic / or topics are agreed on.
Not necessary to discuss what is not agreeable.
That's wouldn't be an interview. That would be a campaign op.
topping an interview because one overstepped the agreement is not a meltdown…
Assuming there was an agreement to avoid topics that might embarrass him. Not something a legitimate newsperson would agree to.

nor is telling the overstepping interviewer your view on their tactics, a meltdown.

Calling an interviewer "crooked or stupid", is as pure a meltdown as there could be, especially coming from Donald Trump.
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The USA Democratic party is "inclusive" is you are FOR :

1.) Gay 'Rights", Gay "Pride", "'Gay Adoption".
2.) Transgendered Children and Teens
3.) Abortion on Demand including the 9th Month.
4.) Citizenship and Voting rights, and Food Stamps, and Free Education, and Free Health care given to ILLEGAL Aliens.
5.) No Prayer or Bibles in Schools.
6.) No Guns allowed to be owned by Adults.
7.) No Captial Punishment
Sounds very unlikely. Can you show a national democrat party platform that endorses all those things?

Neither can anyone else.
 

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Sounds very unlikely. Can you show a national democrat party platform that endorses all those things?

Neither can anyone else.


You are a long way from home.......as you should be on Christian forums.net.....where you use to live.
Did they run you off ?


So, even something like you @Barbarian, will recognize that everything i listed, is what the last DEM Presidential Candidate chanted as her "reason to vote for me".
In fact, and concerning "Christianity".. she watched a Bible Believer be harshly shown the Door during one of her campaign stops, who simply wanted to have a discusstion about all these topics i listed.
That video was on UTBE for a long time.......did you ever see it? Its probably not there now, as that is how it goes....
And once she had them escorted out of the building she stated that "we dont need that type in here".
This is the same who is a declared Marxist and Christ rejector.

Now, the Dems, are for Illegals coming in,.. They support Gays and their Adoptions, and everything else that is on my list and if you want to be their next candidate, you'll have to comply with all of those., and ive a feeling that you would gleefully do it, as ive seen you over the years try to argue in support of anything that is morally offensive to a Real Christian.

And you'll do it here on this Thread...


And maybe you can explain why a so called Christian would name his alt "barbarian".

Now come back and tell us that my list is not real, and then you get to prove it.

If you can't then maybe you should "pop the top on another cold one" and guess again.


See you there @Barbarian
 
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Sounds very unlikely. Can you show a national democrat party platform that endorses all those things?

Neither can anyone else.

So, even something like you @Barbarian, will recognize that everything i listed, is what the last DEM Presidential Candidate chanted as her "reason to vote for me".
But you can't show us? Why is that?
And maybe you can explain why a so called Christian would name his alt "barbarian".
Many years ago, I was posting where there were many atheists. One of them told me that I just didn't understand how "barbaric" Christianity is. I replied, "so call me the barbarian, then." He wasn't amused, but a lot of other people there were, and the name stuck.

Now come back and tell us that my list is not real, and then you get to prove it.
You made the claim; up to you to prove it. Or we'll draw the inevitable conclusion. Your move.

I'm guessing that all this bluffing from you is because you don't have anything. But I could be wrong. Let's see what you have.
 

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Calling an interviewer "crooked or stupid", is as pure a meltdown as there could be, especially coming from Donald Trump.
She is no interviewer, she is paid opposition.
You want to interview someone then interview them, You want to debate someone, that's a whole different platform.
 

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Calling an interviewer "crooked or stupid", is as pure a meltdown as there could be, especially coming from Donald Trump.
She is no interviewer, she is paid opposition.
Her boss had already taken steps to appease Trump before the interview. You have it backwards:

You want to interview someone then interview them,
That, in a free society, includes asking hard questions. The press is not supposed to be a cheerleader for the president.

It is part of the price of leadership of this great and free nation to be the target of clever satirists. You have given the gift of laughter to our people. May we never grow so somber or self-important that we fail to appreciate the humor in our lives.
President Lyndon Johnson to the Smothers Brothers, regarding their repeated criticism of his policies

Johnson had a temper and didn't like being contradicted. But he was enough of an American, that he understood how a free press should work in a free society. How sad that Trump has no idea how it should work.
 
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That's wouldn't be an interview. That would be a campaign op.

Assuming there was an agreement to avoid topics that might embarrass him. Not something a legitimate newsperson would agree to.

Hogwash.

Anyone with a microphone and camera can conduct interviews, with any willing participant…
On Any Topic…
News, sports, music, religion, education, behaviors, gender, citizenship, drugs, economy, wars, blah, blah, blah…
The Topic is not secret…
And if or when the interviewer, steps outside the boundaries…
The one being interviewed can stop the interview….
And so what, if the one being interviewed comments TO the interviewer, about the interviewers shoddy TACTICS?


So you don’t like Trump, he exercising his free speech, his agreeing and participation to discuss particular Topics, he exercising his liberty to end an interview…
Boo hoo, get over yourself.

Truth be told…Trump and others may not like you, your speech and shoddy tactics.

God bless Trump.
Glory to God,
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But you can't show us? Why is that?

I already did........(See my list).

So, let me show you how this works, as you seem to be a bit short of comprehension..

When you tell US that what we post is not true, then you get to PROVE IT.......and that is not , to tell us that we have to prove it"

Do you comprehend @The Barbarian ?

See, when you tell us that we are wrong............and that is all you have to offer, then you have already failed to prove your point of view.

If you understand this, then you''ll know what to do next.

Many years ago, I was posting where there were many atheists. One of them told me that I just didn't understand how "barbaric" Christianity is. I replied, "so call me the barbarian, then." He wasn't amused, but a lot of other people there were, and the name stuck.

And here all these years, we thought it was your obnoxous online personality that was being defined by your alt's Name.

So, i'll stick with that understanding as you continue to prove me correct here on this forum and on all the others that you pollute with your Left of Left leaning godless political viewpoint. @The Barbarian ...

You made the claim; up to you to prove it. Or we'll draw the inevitable conclusion. Your move.

No, its your move to prove that what we are telling you about your rotten godless marxist Democratic party, isn't true.

So far you are a 100% fail......which is par for your course @The Barbarian ..

Now, Keep proving me right, is your "next 20 moves"...(Posts).


And because i dont want you to feel persecuted, i have one solution for you, and one question for you.

Here is the solution..

You obviously have Trump Derangement Syndrome.......and the cure for this, ( and thank me later) is that you simply stop lying to yourself about Trump, and also you must get away from your spiritual guru : (CNN).

And the question i have for you......is....... are you still running around the internet trying to vainly prove that Joe Biden was not completely SENILE during his time in office , who also known worldwide as the worst president in history, other then Barak Obama? @The Barbarian
 
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I'm guessing that all this bluffing from you is because you don't have anything. But I could be wrong. Let's see what you have.

I already did.
No. You just made the claim, and now you're refusing to support it with evidence. We all know why.
When you tell US that what we post is not true, then you get to PROVE IT.
I expressed skepticism. You made the claim; up to you to prove it. If you can't, we'll draw a conclusion from that.

Many years ago, I was posting where there were many atheists. One of them told me that I just didn't understand how "barbaric" Christianity is. I replied, "so call me the barbarian, then." He wasn't amused, but a lot of other people there were, and the name stuck.
And here all these years, we thought it was your obnoxous online personality that was being defined by your alt's Name.
Actually, barbarian societies tend to be polite societies. Being rude can get one killed. I'm peaceful, myself. So angry and verbally abusive discourse doesn't bother me. But we were talking about your claim, that you're apparently unwilling to support.

You made the claim; up to you to prove it. Or we'll draw the inevitable conclusion. Your move.

No, its your move to prove that what we are telling you about your rotten godless marxist Democratic party, isn't true.
Actually, I vote libertarian. Chase Oliver, last time around. But again, you're a lot better at imagining ideas for other people than you are at supporting your claims. Since you've again failed to support your claims, we'll just conclude that you made it all up, and we'll go on.

So far you are a 100% fail......which is par for your course @The Barbarian ..
Well, you know how unsuccessful barbarians can be...:csm
You obviously have Trump Derangement Syndrome.......
I think he's not actually deranged, most of the time. Properly, it looks like dementia.
His meltdown on Meet the Press was more frustration and confusion than insanity.

Donald Trump has fueled concerns he may be suffering from dementia or cognitive decline after an explosive exchange with a female reporter, RadarOnline.com can reveal.

The president was fact-checked with video of himself answering a question about the release of the full footage of recent strikes on Venezuelan boats, which was taken five days before he rebuked ABC News' Rachel Scott for asking a follow-up question about the footage during a press conference on Monday, December 9.

Despite a video capturing Trump's answer mere days prior, the 79-year-old falsely denied ever commenting on Monday's fiery exchange.

And the question i have for you......is....... are you still running around the internet trying to vainly prove that Joe Biden was not completely SENILE during his time in office
I don't remember declaring whether or not Biden was completely senile in office. Could you show us where I wrote that? Oh, wait; you don't support your claims. Sorry. Did you know that confabulation is one early sign of dementia?
 
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That's wouldn't be an interview. That would be a campaign op.

Assuming there was an agreement to avoid topics that might embarrass him. Not something a legitimate newsperson would agree to.

If you think so, you don't know much about a free press.

The Topic is not secret…
And if or when the interviewer, steps outside the boundaries…
That's how it works in North Korea. Not in a free society.
The one being interviewed can stop the interview….
The one being interviewed can stop the interview for any reason whatever. For example, if the interviewer asks a hard question, or one that the interviewee finds uncomfortable. Freedom works both ways.
And so what, if the one being interviewed comments TO the interviewer, about the interviewers shoddy TACTICS?
Generally an unwise tactic. It almost inevitably makes the interviewee look dishonest, as it did this time. Getting angry and calling names makes it worse.
So you don’t like Trump, he exercising his free speech, his agreeing and participation to discuss particular Topics, he exercising his liberty to end an interview…
See above. Freedom works both ways. But people draw conclusions from behavior. It's not just this interview. People are concerned about his behavior, even with a network that has always been loyal to Trump:

'Get yourself a new pollster!' Fed-up Trump bashes Fox News' own surveys during interview

'Get yourself a new pollster!' Fed-up Trump bashes Fox News' own surveys during interview

He's getting more and more detached from reality.
 

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That's wouldn't be an interview. That would be a campaign op.

Assuming there was an agreement to avoid topics that might embarrass him. Not something a legitimate newsperson would agree to.


If you think so, you don't know much about a free press.


That's how it works in North Korea. Not in a free society.

The one being interviewed can stop the interview for any reason whatever. For example, if the interviewer asks a hard question, or one that the interviewee finds uncomfortable. Freedom works both ways.

Generally an unwise tactic. It almost inevitably makes the interviewee look dishonest, as it did this time. Getting angry and calling names makes it worse.

See above. Freedom works both ways. But people draw conclusions from behavior. It's not just this interview. People are concerned about his behavior, even with a network that has always been loyal to Trump:

'Get yourself a new pollster!' Fed-up Trump bashes Fox News' own surveys during interview

'Get yourself a new pollster!' Fed-up Trump bashes Fox News' own surveys during interview

He's getting more and more detached from reality.
Except for your last line--which is just misunderstanding--that's all good--I mean of Trump. It means he has had enough and we'll probably be seeing more good measures taking place as a result.

Can you imagine trying to be civil and keep your cool when that mob has tried to kill him, undermine his efforts to do good things for America and the world, and falsely accuse him--while they themselves are on the take and corrupt as the nation is old?! Wow--he's incredible--a pit bull, but what a patriot! And he's a better chess player--their time isn't just coming--it's here!

As for those of you who don't see it, who only see the savagery from one side--this is a war you're watching--so much for being one-sighted--you're also being blindsided.
 
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That's wouldn't be an interview. That would be a campaign op.

Assuming there was an agreement to avoid topics that might embarrass him. Not something a legitimate newsperson would agree to.


If you think so, you don't know much about a free press.


That's how it works in North Korea. Not in a free society.

The one being interviewed can stop the interview for any reason whatever. For example, if the interviewer asks a hard question, or one that the interviewee finds uncomfortable. Freedom works both ways.

Generally an unwise tactic. It almost inevitably makes the interviewee look dishonest, as it did this time. Getting angry and calling names makes it worse.

See above. Freedom works both ways. But people draw conclusions from behavior. It's not just this interview. People are concerned about his behavior, even with a network that has always been loyal to Trump:

'Get yourself a new pollster!' Fed-up Trump bashes Fox News' own surveys during interview

'Get yourself a new pollster!' Fed-up Trump bashes Fox News' own surveys during interview

He's getting more and more detached from reality.

Oh good grief… Trump isn’t campaigning!
The Topic was supposed to be the Economy and the war.
When the topics changed, He left.
It has nothing to do with embarrassment and everything to do with integrity.
Trump is a busy man, and has no time to play games with interviewer's who can not conduct an interview per an agreement and his valuable time.

Many people have walked off programs with disrespectful shoddy interviewers…
So What?

Maybe concern yourself with your own behavior.
 
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What you actually just saw was someone who knows he has won, saying "Take that--and that!" after years of playing their game and beating them at it. The op was for you who have been blind to it.
Maybe Trump is playing 4D chess and it will reverse the continuing loss of public support. But I don't think so.
 

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Maybe Trump is playing 4D chess and it will reverse the continuing loss of public support. But I don't think so.
Okay, fair enough. But what do you know that is not just public drama generated by his opponents and media? Have you even met the man?

I only ask to show the error and misconception that is so common, so mob generated...because I do know somethings.
 

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Oh good grief… Trump isn’t campaigning!
That's not what he says.
It has nothing to do with embarrassment and everything to do with integrity.
"Integrity" is not a word that comes to mind when Donald Trump is the subject:
Available reporting and fact‑checks show Donald Trump makes false or misleading statements with a frequency and repetitiveness that fact‑checking projects, news organizations and courts have documented as unusually high for a U.S. president, which supports calling him “prolific” in lying [1] [2] [3]; however, credible journalistic and legal sources do not support making a medical or psychiatric diagnosis of “pathological” lying in the clinical sense — reporting characterizes patterns, motives and effects without clinical verdicts

Many people have walked off programs with disrespectful shoddy interviewers…
And lots of politicians have bailed on interviews when an interviewer asked troubling questions.

Maybe concern yourself with your own behavior.
I'm thinking you'd be more effective if you dealt with the issue rather than personal attacks. Given how this has worked out for us, perhaps the discussion would be better if we stopped responding for a bit.
 

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Okay, fair enough. But what do you know that is not just public drama generated by his opponents and media? Have you even met the man?
Yeah, it's possible that Trump's private persona is alert, reasonable, and respectful. But I'm skeptical.
I only ask to show the error and misconception that is so common, so mob generated...because I do know somethings
You know, a long time ago, there was something like that. Barry Goldwater was notoriously easy to goad into saying things that made him look unstable or unwise, while he was one of the most sane people in Congress. It was so bad that the "Goldwater Rule" was adopted by mental health professionals making it unethical to diagnose public figures without actually testing them. Goldwater, after about a year of that, became more careful. Trump seems unable to learn to manage himself. And yes, while Trump seems to be experiencing symptoms of dementia, there have been a few mental health professionals who have unethically diagnosed him as such. All we can say is that his behavior is consistent with dementia.

When people say that he's losing it, we (including myself) all need to remember that there can be other reasons for his behavior.
 

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Sounds very unlikely. Can you show a national democrat party platform that endorses all those things?

Neither can anyone else.
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Who said that??

Let's not leave an educational vacuum to be filled by religious extremists who go to families who have no other option and offer meals, housing and some form of education. If we are going to combat extremism then we must educate those very same children.

Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

Gay rights are human rights.

When a new president comes in, a new president gets to clean house.

The United States, obviously, has a great interest in helping to maintain peace and security in Europe, and we have a formal alliance, NATO, to do so.

Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.

I have not supported same-sex marriage. I have supported civil partnerships and contractual relationships.

People have to stop employing illegal immigrants.

I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president.

The Russians and the Chinese have been absolutely clear they don't want to see Iran with a nuclear weapon.

We have a close, unshakable bond between the United States and Israel, and between the American and Israeli people. We share common values and a commitment to a democratic future for the world, and we are both committed to a two-state solution. But that doesn't mean that we're going to agree.

We would very much like to see Iran take a position as a responsible leader that doesn't intimidate or threaten or scare its neighbors and others. But the choice is really up to Iran and we're going to keep working to try to come out with the right decision.

We know in New York we have several million at any one time who are in New York illegally.

Europe is a miracle.

A nuclear-weapons armed Iran is not in anyone's human-rights interests. That is a direct threat to the lives and the livelihoods and the stability not only of the region but beyond.

Hint:
. The truth is that sometimes it is hard even for me to recognize the Hillary Clinton that other people see.

Hugs

I wish there was space to post this Hillary_Clinton_in_Wonderland story.
But it is 63 pages long and VERY interesting.
So I'll just leave it here incase anyone is interested in going Down the Rabbit Hole.

:D