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You may want to read the Old Testament.

And war always involves one group of people killing another.

Nigeria ranks 6th as the nation with the highest population of Christians. Estimated totals range from 43% to 48% of the population, according to the world data website.

Boko Haram's insurgency began in 2009. Since their terror campaign started over 52,000 Christians have been slaughtered.

How have their prayers helped this far in 17 years?
:csm sml:csm

 
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You may want to read the Old Testament.

And war always involves one group of people killing another.

Nigeria ranks 6th as the nation with the highest population of Christians. Estimated totals range from 43% to 48% of the population, according to the world data website.

Boko Haram's insurgency began in 2009. Since their terror campaign started over 52,000 Christians have been slaughtered.

How have their prayers helped this far in 17 years?
I think we should look at what the new testament teaches and how the early church (and Jesus) responded to persecution. In more recent times, I've heard of those under heavy persecution asking that we pray not for the persecution to stop, but that their faith would hold. God's wisdom and ways are higher than ours.

Old Testament battles are parables/allegories for spiritual warfare - the new testament says we are not wrestling with flesh and blood and our weapons are not carnal. Those old testament accounts are not carnal lessons that new covenant believers are to take literally. King David having actual blood on His hands was disqualified from building God's house - that is something we need to take note of, I believe.
 
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Apparently, “Some people”, have “seen Trumps Fruits”… to declare him…
“A non Believer, an Anti-Christ”…

And when “they are Asked”, what “evidence” “they have”… it is ignored or they give a strangers video of that strangers “opinion”…
That is not evidence.

Not one person has provided “evidence”…
Trump does Not believe in the Lord God Almighty…

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
It seems when actual truth is presented to you, you still turn a blind eye. You were given so many reputable sources yet you still worship this horrible man. Sources from Associated Press, Reuters, The Hill, Washington Press, Crew (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington), The Presbyterian Outlook, among others. It is apparent that you did not even look at any of these citings. Is fox your only source of news??

 
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It seems when actual truth is presented to you, you still turn a blind eye. You were given so many reputable sources yet you still worship this horrible man.

Worship? How in the Slightest do you conclude, I “worship” him?

What “exactly” have you “determined” your label of “horrible” is an appropriate description?

How do you “determine your” ACTUAL Truth?

Sources from Associated Press, Reuters, The Hill, Washington Press, Crew (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington), The Presbyterian Outlook, among others.

You are the source, accusing me, of Worshiping him and It is you who describe him as “horrible…
So you can provide your evidence.

It is apparent that you did not even look at any of these citings.

I am familiar with multiple “Agencies that masquerade “as” News outlets”, while bombarding the gullible public with “Edited Opinions 24-7 “.

Is fox your only source of news??

Have you seen, read, me Ever quoting, mentioning, Fox News being my source for News, for you to even say, wonder, IMPLY that IS my ONLY news source?
 

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Worship? How in the Slightest do you conclude, I “worship” him?

What “exactly” have you “determined” your label of “horrible” is an appropriate description?

How do you “determine your” ACTUAL Truth?



You are the source, accusing me, of Worshiping him and It is you who describe him as “horrible…
So you can provide your evidence.



I am familiar with multiple “Agencies that masquerade “as” News outlets”, while bombarding the gullible public with “Edited Opinions 24-7 “.



Have you seen, read, me Ever quoting, mentioning, Fox News being my source for News, for you to even say, wonder, IMPLY that IS my ONLY news source?
It is your choice. Where there is smoke, there is fire. You can ignore these very reputable news outlets all you want, AP and Reuters especially...these are where the whole world get their news. Ground news shows articles, the percentage of the left, right and center views that were reported on, and the articles themselves. You can choose to be ignorant of the facts all you want, that does not change the truth.

Secular Worship
Beyond religion, the concept describes giving extravagant devotion, admiration, or worth to something. People often "worship" ideals, achievements, or concepts, such as success, money, nature, or even prominent cultural figures. Merriam-Webster



 
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It is your choice. Where there is smoke, there is fire. You can ignore these very reputable news outlets all you want, AP and Reuters especially...these are where the whole world get their news. Ground news shows articles, the percentage of the left, right and center views that were reported on, and the articles themselves. You can choose to be ignorant of the facts all you want, that does not change the truth.

Secular Worship
Beyond religion, the concept describes giving extravagant devotion, admiration, or worth to something. People often "worship" ideals, achievements, or concepts, such as success, money, nature, or even prominent cultural figures. Merriam-Webster




Your favored News agencies and your explanation of Worship…

Does NOT… answer “your” evidence For your accusations against me.
Nor does it identify anything specific for you to determine he is a “horrible” man.

You are the source of your own words…
Why will you NOT provide your evidence?
 

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Your favored News agencies and your explanation of Worship…

Does NOT… answer “your” evidence For your accusations against me.
Nor does it identify anything specific for you to determine he is a “horrible” man.

You are the source of your own words…
Why will you NOT provide your evidence?
Unreal, you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. What are YOUR sources other than YOURself?

You have been given more than enough evidence! It doesn't matter as you are blinded.

I pray for you.
 
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Unreal, you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. What are YOUR sources other than YOURself?

You have been given more than enough evidence! It doesn't matter as you are blinded.

I pray for you.

Seems you don’t get it…

You said “I worship him”… You Prove it!

You said he was “horrible”… You Prove it!

Pray for me FOR WHAT? That I blindly follow you? Blindly follow strangers, that give “half baked edited opinions they present “as news”?

It’s not a secret…news agencies get their “so called news from reporters”…sent their report and evidence TO AP.
News Agencies take their “reports / evidence” EDIT / OMIT Facts, to Slant the actual News to Their Agenda of the Agency Owners.
 

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Trump and Politics

Trump…”personally” …
outstanding.

Politics…Regarding Trumps “governance”…
Top notch.

Politics…Regarding Trumps “work ethics”…
outstanding.

Politics…Regarding Trumps “Policies”…
Top notch.

Politics…Regarding Trumps “Diplomacy”…
Acceptable.

Politics…Regarding Trumps “Appointments”…
Improved.

Relationships…Regarding Trump…personally, excellent.

Relationships…Regarding Trumps…distain, comical.

Trump Personally…Regarding charity…
Outstanding.

Trump Personally…Regarding Religious Beliefs…
Acceptable.

Trump Personally…Magnet, that attracts, jealous Heartful Haters.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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I think we should look at what the new testament teaches and how the early church (and Jesus) responded to persecution. In more recent times, I've heard of those under heavy persecution asking that we pray not for the persecution to stop, but that their faith would hold. God's wisdom and ways are higher than ours.

Old Testament battles are parables/allegories for spiritual warfare - the new testament says we are not wrestling with flesh and blood and our weapons are not carnal. Those old testament accounts are not carnal lessons that new covenant believers are to take literally. King David having actual blood on His hands was disqualified from building God's house - that is something we need to take note of, I believe.
I think we must remember we are told God is the same yesterday,today,and forever. He does not change.

If we were facing a member of Boko Haram holding our newborn in one hand while lifting a machete to behead her using his other hand, and you as that baby's parent had a gun in your hands and knew how to use it,would you pray for your baby and the terrorist holding her? That God intercede?

Or would you save your baby and shoot the terrorist?
With the gun God inspired a human mind to invent.


We all know what God has in store for that Boko Haram terrorist.
That's not,non -violence.
 

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You said he was “horrible”… You Prove it!
It looks like 80% Americans are fed up with the guy.
Good luck, you are one of the shrinking 20% still worshipping him as the "great leader cleaning up the swamp".
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Sure.
Apparently, “Some people”, have “seen Trumps Fruits”… to declare him…
“A non Believer, an Anti-Christ”…

And when “they are Asked”, what “evidence” “they have”… it is ignored or they give a strangers video of that strangers “opinion”…
That is not evidence.

Not one person has provided “evidence”…
Trump does Not believe in the Lord God Almighty…

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
so allow me this third time you asked to tell you what i have arleady t old ya .
IF even this alone was the only t hing that Trump had said when asked a question i would have known
no way and no how is that man a christain .
Have you EVER had to ask GOD for forgivenss .
Trump , I dont think i ever done anything that would warrant having to be f orgiven , having to ask GOD for forgivness .
However now i will show to you yet again
what else the man has said . His main man was NORMAN VICENT PEALE . OOPSY that one was false .
And it like trump is some new christain , The man has been within the realm of christendom
for decades . Sitting under men long ago like NORMAN vincent peal
and now his latest queen , paula white and the infamous nar realm .
SO here it is again for the third time i answered this question . TOTAL EVIDENCE that man
IS NO CHRISTAIN . SO rather than calling him one , T RY PRAYING for him to become one .
AND OH YEAH F IRE paula white too and that entire realm of ecumiencal interreligious dialougers
HE has surounding him .
 
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I think we must remember we are told God is the same yesterday,today,and forever. He does not change.

If we were facing a member of Boko Haram holding our newborn in one hand while lifting a machete to behead her using his other hand, and you as that baby's parent had a gun in your hands and knew how to use it,would you pray for your baby and the terrorist holding her? That God intercede?

Or would you save your baby and shoot the terrorist?
With the gun God inspired a human mind to invent.


We all know what God has in store for that Boko Haram terrorist.
That's not,non -violence.
you really gonna bring that to try and prove her wrong about HOW the church is not to go to war .
Friend , yall are almost now ready for yalls great leader of the one who cometh in its own name
to begin its inclusive crusades against any and all that did not conform
TO THE LIE that interfaith interreligious dialogue has b rought to the table .
IF you really think TRUMP has come to save christanity , YOU DEAD WRONG about that .
HE as do the other side
only propogates the same ecumeincal inclusive interreligious dialgoue . By which
soon many true saints will b leed as they are seen only as haters of humanity and even of God .
YALLL being set up . just like the left is , just like the protestant and just like the catholic
and just like all false religions . TO BE ONE with all religions and beleive the lie
this is the PEACE plan OF GOD . when it was only ever OF ANTI CHRIST and of the BEAST . flee all politics
and let none look back . Flee to the bible and let us learn for ourselves and quiclky too . OR forever
be taken into the lie and be damned . ITS that simple . This is deadly and must be exposed . Get out
of anything connected to anything ecumeincal and its inclusive intefaith for peace plan .
AND DO NOT look back .
 

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so allow me this third time you asked to tell you what i have arleady t old ya .
IF even this alone was the only t hing that Trump had said when asked a question i would have known
no way and no how is that man a christain .
You have no right to judge who God called to himself.

Especially when you don't respect the identity of Christian. Capitalize the word. And spell it correctly.


I'll pray for you. pryrw
Have you EVER had to ask GOD for forgivenss .
Trump , I dont think i ever done anything that would warrant having to be f orgiven , having to ask GOD for forgivness .
However now i will show to you yet again
what else the man has said . His main man was NORMAN VICENT PEALE . OOPSY that one was false .
And it like trump is some new christain , The man has been within the realm of christendom
for decades . Sitting under men long ago like NORMAN vincent peal
and now his latest queen , paula white and the infamous nar realm .
SO here it is again for the third time i answered this question . TOTAL EVIDENCE that man
IS NO CHRISTAIN . SO rather than calling him one , T RY PRAYING for him to become one .
AND OH YEAH F IRE paula white too and that entire realm of ecumiencal interreligious dialougers
HE has surounding him .
 

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Blindly follow strangers, that give “half baked edited opinions they present “as news”?
That's exactly what you are doing by listening to fake preacher Paula White the so called head of the White House "spiritual" office.
 
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you really gonna bring that to try and prove her wrong about HOW the church is not to go to war .
Friend , yall are almost now ready for yalls great leader of the one who cometh in its own name
to begin its inclusive crusades against any and all that did not conform
TO THE LIE that interfaith interreligious dialogue has b rought to the table .
IF you really think TRUMP has come to save christanity , YOU DEAD WRONG about that .
HE as do the other side
only propogates the same ecumeincal inclusive interreligious dialgoue . By which
soon many true saints will b leed as they are seen only as haters of humanity and even of God .
YALLL being set up . just like the left is , just like the protestant and just like the catholic
and just like all false religions . TO BE ONE with all religions and beleive the lie
this is the PEACE plan OF GOD . when it was only ever OF ANTI CHRIST and of the BEAST . flee all politics
and let none look back . Flee to the bible and let us learn for ourselves and quiclky too . OR forever
be taken into the lie and be damned . ITS that simple . This is deadly and must be exposed . Get out
of anything connected to anything ecumeincal and its inclusive intefaith for peace plan .
AND DO NOT look back .
When people try to reform God in their preferred ideal,they're blaspheming God.

God is a war God.
If people would read the Old Testament itself,they'd realize this. God's kingdom on Earth was established through God's will. And his leading his warriors to do his will.

God tells us,he does not change.

Those who prefer a passive deity are labeling their own god,as their deity of choice.

God is the same yesterday,today,and forever. He does not change.
 

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It looks like 80% Americans are fed up with the guy.
Good luck, you are one of the shrinking 20% still worshipping him as the "great leader cleaning up the swamp".
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They cannot see nor can the left , ITS ALL been a set up .
They beleive as do a child that trump IS THE GREAT AND MIGHTY TRUMP OF GOD
sent by GOD to bring peace on earth and to ISRAEL
just as do the left think their ecumiencal peace plan be of GOD . YET its all the same plan with the same lie .
The most dangerous , or one of them , man to the evangelical realm that has ever sat the throne of president
IS DONALD J T RUMP . But not because he will persecute them
BUT RATHER he and his many co wokers WILL INDEED and has indeed DECIEVED THEM .
DECIVED THEM ALL into believing he be the MAN OF GOD
sent to save christendom from persecution and bring peace n sa fety to ISRAEL and the world .
BUT NO SIR . that AINT TRUMP or the ecumiencal intefaith interreligious agenda .
IT was and is to create and give POWER to the religoin of inclusivity .
YES the ONE WORLD RELIGOIN by which ALL RELIGOINS will be as one peoples .
AND SOON a very powerful system that was prepared for the beast
WILL begin to enforce the law of inclusion . NOW when it do
ANYTHING that gets said , spoken , written or typed
that is labeled as offensive , as hate , as mis or dis information , as not being inclusive
as offending any ones religoin or even homosexualitiy
WILL BE DEEMED ILLEGAL TO SAY . and guess what else that means
SAYING JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY and to be saved ONE MUST BELIEVE
Seeing that already offends false religoins , OH IT GETS SILENCED TOO .
WE ALL GOT SET UP . And now this world shall reap teh IRON YOKE of an all out powerful beast led system .
 
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