Is the growing hatred of Jews and Israel, particularly by Christians, an omen of something extraordinary happening "soon"?

[Spiritual Israelite]

Who here hates Jews?

Absolutely no one. But, apparently, he hates us just because we don't support literally everything the modern day nation of Israel, consisting mostly of those who reject Christ, does. It seems that he has an issue with hate, not anyone else.

 

[NotTheRock]

Yes exactally

God didn't agree with Israel when they rejected Jesus and He judged them for it. Did that mean that God hated them? of course not

Many Christians, including a significant number here, spew lies that the church has replaced Israel and that Israel is no longer relevant. Thereafter they accuse Israel of terrible deeds while remaining silent about the world's persecution of them. You want to whitewash all of that while pretending to do God's will, which you're not doing.

 

[NotTheRock]

Then what about The Jews who died over the last 200 years

Are you an infernalist?

 

[NotTheRock]

Right. Why aren't these people accusing Jesus of hating the Jews after He called those who rejected Him hypocrites and a brood of vipers? We're not even doing that and they claim we hate the Jews. No, we want them all to be saved just as we want all people from all nations to be saved because that's what God wants (1 Timothy 2:3-6).

Your post is disingenuous. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and Saducees, not "all Jews who rejected him".

 

[Gray_Joy]

Yes exactally

God didn't agree with Israel when they rejected Jesus and He judged them for it. Did that mean that God hated them? of course not

Words are power.
Did God allow the curse those who crucified Jesus called down upon themselves to come to pass upon them and their children?
Matthew 27

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

None of the Jew-hating trash here is aligned with our Heavenly Father. Jesus warned those idiots that only those that do the will of the Father will enter Heaven. Persecuting God's chosen people is an act of hateful rebellion against the Father.

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant them on their land, and they shall never again be uprooted out of the land that I have given them" says the Lord your God.

Matthew 7:21
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Give me just one example of anyone here persecuting anyone.

By the way, we (the church) are God's chosen people including any Jews who believe in Christ.

Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

 

[NotTheRock]

Create a thread about Jews and the Jew-haters come out in force.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Your post is disingenuous. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and Saducees, not "all Jews who rejected him".

LOL. Nice job of avoiding the point. Those Pharisees and Sadducees were Jews and Jesus called them hypocrites and a brood of vipers. Does that mean He hated them?

 

[Marty fox]

Jesus said this to the Apostles, but the same principle is true in that anything or anyone that is of God is hated by the world, even by many alleged "Christians".

John 15:18-25 niv
18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’[a] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.

But are they of God according to Jesus?

Luke 10:16
“Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

The Israel today isn't the Old Testament Israel, we the church today are true Israel

Romas 9:6
It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.

Romans 11:26
and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

So who then is all Israel?

But that doesn't mean that I hate Israel because I don't I love Israel and want them all to be saved

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Create a thread about Jews and the Jew-haters come out in force.

False accusation. No one here hates Jews. You need to repent of your lies. You need to deal with your own hatred before accusing others of having anyone. You have a serious issue that you better repent of. You are showing that you hate people just because they don't fully agree with everything the modern day nation of Israel does while at the same time they want all Jews and all people to be saved, as God does (1 Timothy 2:3-6).

 

[Wrangler]

Why not? Why should I believe you if you can't provide any evidence to back up your claim?

Because your request is divisive and I’m confident you would deny the evidence.

I don't see it on this forum.

Exactly why evidence won’t helpful; you don’t have eyes to see.

How can I respond to this when I don't even know what you're talking about? Just give me one example.

No thank you. (You don’t have to respond)

 

[Marty fox]

Many Christians, including a significant number here, spew lies that the church has replaced Israel and that Israel is no longer relevant. Thereafter they accuse Israel of terrible deeds while remaining silent about the world's persecution of them. You want to whitewash all of that while pretending to do God's will, which you're not doing.

I do not believe that the church has replaced Israel I believe in Covenant theology

The church is made up of Christ believing Jews and Christ believing Gentiles

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Because your request is divisive and I’m confident you would deny the evidence.

What do you have to lose? You must not be very confident that your claims are true or else you would provide the evidence. But, it doesn't matter. I can see now what this is all about. You guys think that if someone doesn't give 100% full support to the modern day nation of Israel consisting of mostly those who reject Christ, then that somehow means they hate Jews. Which is ridiculous. You can love Jews and want them to be saved and at the same time not support everything the modern day nation of Israel does. They mostly reject Christ, so why would we assume everything they do is something God wants them to do? Their rejection of Christ is certainly not what God wants.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I do not believe that the church has replaced Israel I believe in Covenant theology

The church is made up of Christ believing Jews and Christ believing Gentiles

Right. No one has been replaced. Gentile believers have been added, as passages like Ephesians 2:11-22 and Romans 11:15-24 indicate.

 

[Wrangler]

What do you have to lose?

Your responding AFTER admitting you don’t know what I’m talking about. Proverbs 26:4-5 (NLT)

4 Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools,
or you will become as foolish as they are

 

[Marty fox]

Create a thread about Jews and the Jew-haters come out in force.

The only person speaking in a hateful manor here is you, we are only showing you what the bible and Jesus said, I love Israel

 

[NotTheRock]

I love Israel and want them all to be saved

Ok. It's good to be wrong about you.

 

[NotTheRock]

The only person speaking in a hateful manor here is you, we are only showing you what the bible and Jesus said, I love Israel

I remember all of the vile things said here previously about Israel and Jews.

 

[NotTheRock]

No one here hates Jews. You need to repent of your lies.

Perhaps you didn't read all of the hateful attacks against Jews here.

 

[NotTheRock]

So who then is all Israel?

All will be saved, but not before this demonic world goes to war against Israel and God. When that happens, who will you support?