Trying to get rid of a spirit spouse, but don't know how I'm supposed to fast.
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It happens, but most likely there has been a place of trauma or some sort of open door. I'd advise anyone who is experiencing this to seek God and ask Him where the cracks are.
Agreed. We have to deal with our past at some point, but it's mostly a process that can sometimes take a lifetime.
I stand corrected, brothers and sisters in Christ. This is indeed a sister in Christ. Sorry again, @Hillsage.
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Hillsage
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I personally do not believe spirits are either male or female, but as I said earlier, they have 'masculine' or 'feminine' natures/attributes. I know that the Pagan origins of Incubus/Incubi say the spirit told them it was the name of a "male spirit", but those pagans worshiped lying spirits who hid the truth from them too. The kingdom of God is not divided against itself....the kingdom of Satan is.
In defense of my opinion, scripture says;
GAL 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Cchrist Jesus.
This verse speaks of the "neither male nor female" anointed/christos spirit which was in Jesus, who had a male body. You girls here all have female bodies but the same "spirit of Christ in you", as we males do.
MAT 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
But the "neither male or female" spirit which was in Jesus, also had feminine 'nature and attributes' side, to it.
Again, according to scripture.
MAT 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would
I /JESUS have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
REV 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps/mastos with a golden girdle.
3149 mastos: a (prop female) breast (as if kneaded up)
I do have a testimony to share concerning Incubus and Sucubus as a spiritual connection to HOMOSEXUALITY.
But it is teaching I have HEARD from the "anointing which abides within which teaches" us also, and not religious men. (1Joh 2: 27)
When it comes to deliverance, a lot of what is known today has come from post biblical revelation from believers who were truly spirit led. And in my opinion today, that spirit wasn't the triune Holy Spirit of God. It comes from the same holy spirit of christos which was in Jesus, when he dealt with deliverance, which did make it to the bible.
I have the opinion that if feminine SUCUBUS goes after a male his dream would be a heterosexual dream. And if masculine INCUBUS goes after a female, (especially children) her dream would be a heterosexual dream.
But if a feminine SUCUBUS goes after a female in her dream it will be a homosexual dream. And if a masculine INCUBUS goes after a male (especially children) then it will be a homosexual dream.
I have had two experiences concerning this type of encounter. Both testimonies, shared having NON SEXUAL dreams at young ages where they were woke up with a night terror where they felt like an octopus (or something tenacled) was laying on their chests and crushing them. Both ended up shortly after going down the homosexual path.
I'll just stop there.
From the OP:
...when I am weak, then am I strong. (2 Cor. 12:10)
The whole of the spiritual world is fully aware of the status of your physical body and its fleshly desires, its "open doors to the enemy" potential. So whatever you can do to break your flesh, to discipline yourself to willingly put your flesh into a weaker state, can be of benefit in dealing spiritually with the demonic. How you might accomplish that is up to you. Your situation is unique to you; only you know what would best get you to that place of weaker flesh and thus stronger spirituality - always aware that it's the Holy Spirit who does the heavy lifting.
While in bed, I had a devil try to sodomize me, and it physically hurt. After I confessed my past sexual sin(s) (largely fornication and masturbation), turned away from them (i.e. repented) and continued to resist, the attacks stopped. To be sure, I cast it out (always in Jesus' name). BTW, orifices are gateways. Putting anything into an orifice that it is not designed for, can open a gateway to this type of devil (sexually speaking).
The purpose behind fasting is:
...when I am weak, then am I strong. (2 Cor. 12:10)
The whole of the spiritual world is fully aware of the status of your physical body and its fleshly desires, its "open doors to the enemy" potential. So whatever you can do to break your flesh, to discipline yourself to willingly put your flesh into a weaker state, can be of benefit in dealing spiritually with the demonic. How you might accomplish that is up to you. Your situation is unique to you; only you know what would best get you to that place of weaker flesh and thus stronger spirituality - always aware that it's the Holy Spirit who does the heavy lifting.
How did you come to that realization?
The incubus and succubus devils don't necessarily "stay in their respective lanes." They are "switch hitters." Hetero- and homo- dreams are simply labels some apply in their attempts to understand the gender question from the human perspective. Also, knowing a devil's name is of no direct benefit. However, knowing what a devil is (e.g. devil of lust, devil of tarot, devil of pride, etc.) is useful in sorting out the rat's nest of deliverance.
That would be the classic nightmar (formerly without the "e") from antiquity. The origin of the nightmar (today's' watered down "sleep paralysis") was previously posted here. You personally may not have done anything to warrant a visit; it could be a generational spirit let into your family line by someone who was/is in authority over you. Deliverance is still the order of the day.
While in bed, I had a devil try to sodomize me, and it physically hurt. After I confessed my past sexual sin(s) (largely fornication and masturbation), turned away from them (i.e. repented) and continued to resist, the attacks stopped. To be sure, I cast it out (always in Jesus' name). BTW, orifices are gateways. Putting anything into an orifice that it is not designed for, can open a gateway to this type of devil (sexually speaking).
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Hillsage
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I think the best treatise I've read concerning what's a devil or a demon or an unclean spirit, came from Derek Prince's book 'They shall Expel demons'. I do agree that the 'nature' or 'attribute' being seen e.g. lust, pride is a much used method in the deliverance ministry. But I also believe there is a place for knowing the name too. But getting that name from a demon can be tricky, as they all lie. But when you do receive a 'name' by a 'manifested revelation' ("discerning of spirits") I have found that to be a very powerful tool. I've experienced regular long lasting sessions being shortened greatly as 'hearing and obeying' grew with spiritual maturity.
Just as important though, IMO, is "evil spirits" knowing your name. The "sons of Sceva" found that out the hard way. So when you call them by their name, when you never asked for it, they know that you know the 'One' they all have to submit to.
I think lots of deliverance people all have their favorite techniques which were honed from practice. And what one brethren will say to never do, another brethren will say to always do. I've read enough books to just laugh some times. But always glean something new to put in my bag along the way. But being 'truly' spirit led, is at the top of my list for me, as well as for the true body of Christ on this earth.
I think that; "Order of the day" is a good word. ...for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. It appears to be getting quieter for the thread.
David Lamb
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stevesonthebay
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Fundementally I think this is a demonic or what may be called a negative spirit. One that is designed to deminish or replace Christ in the heart. You are right to keep inviting Christ into your heart in these times. Sometimes its the only thing as these are powerful spirits.
I have come to realise that there is always some sort of sacrifice I need to do to overcome the negative spirits. Theres nothing we can do in our own power and no way. So it becomes to handing over of something to move forward. It may not even have anything to do with the thoughts that come into your head. Just something we need to do in letting go of or in doing something that we have put off or have the thought of needing to be done as the next step towards letting go and letting God.
The battle is for the heart and satan uses the flesh to lure us away from Christs spirit in our hearts. Though a spiritual battle it is our carnal flesh nature that is being used to lure us away. I think there is a link between paganism and negative spirits and that this has become more prevelant in recent years. Like they are coming back and being released due to the world rejecting Christ.
I have come to realise that there is always some sort of sacrifice I need to do to overcome the negative spirits. Theres nothing we can do in our own power and no way. So it becomes to handing over of something to move forward. It may not even have anything to do with the thoughts that come into your head. Just something we need to do in letting go of or in doing something that we have put off or have the thought of needing to be done as the next step towards letting go and letting God.
The battle is for the heart and satan uses the flesh to lure us away from Christs spirit in our hearts. Though a spiritual battle it is our carnal flesh nature that is being used to lure us away. I think there is a link between paganism and negative spirits and that this has become more prevelant in recent years. Like they are coming back and being released due to the world rejecting Christ.
