I am a sabbath breaker!

[rockytopva]

Not something unique?

At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. - Matthew 12:1-2

And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered. And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him. - Luke 6:6-7

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I don't to to church on Saturday either to the SDA peeps are ticked off!

 

[rockytopva]

And a favorite painting of mine. Not that I am much of a golfer!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

And a favorite painting of mine. Not that I am much of a golfer!

Looks like some false teachers enjoying a little game of golf

 

[Scott Downey]

Neither did or could any of the Jews keep the law.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend on one point, he is guilty of all.

Bible Gateway passage: John 7:18-20 - 21st Century King James Version

He that speaketh from himself seeketh his own glory; but He that seeketh the glory of Him that sent Him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill Me?" The people answered and said, "Thou hast...

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18 He that speaketh from himself seeketh his own glory; but He that seeketh the glory of Him that sent Him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.

19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill Me?”

20 The people answered and said, “Thou hast a devil. Who goeth about to kill thee?”

 

[Scott Downey]

Stephen speaking to the unbelieving Jews

Bible Gateway passage: Acts 7:52-54 - 21st Century King James Version

Which of the prophets have your fathers not persecuted? And they have slain those who foretold the coming of the Just One. Of Him ye have now been the betrayers and murderers, ye who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it." When they heard these things, they...

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52 Which of the prophets have your fathers not persecuted? And they have slain those who foretold the coming of the Just One. Of Him ye have now been the betrayers and murderers,

53 ye who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.”

54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed with their teeth at him.

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God,

56 and he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

58 and cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their clothes at the feet of a young man whose name was Saul.

59 And they stoned Stephen as he called upon God and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!”

60 And he kneeled down and cried with a loud voice, “Lord, charge not this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

 

[Wrangler]

Sabbath is a gift from God, the first of the 10 commandments givens.

i understand and God understands things come up - that are a matter of emergency - but as a rule, we owe it to ourselves to not be a slave to busyness.

 

[Soyeong]

Not something unique?

At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. - Matthew 12:1-2

And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered. And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him. - Luke 6:6-7

Some of God's laws appear to conflict with each other, such as with God commanding to rest on the Sabbath while also commanding priests to make offerings on the Sabbath (Numbers 28:9-10), however, it was not the case that priests were forced to sin by breaking one of the two laws no matter what they chose to do but that the lesser command was never intended to be understood as preventing us from obeying the greater command. This is why Jesus said in Matthew 12:5-7 that priests who performed their duties on the Sabbath were held innocent, why David and his men were held innocent, and why Jesus defended his disciples as being innocent. This is also why it is lawful to get an ox out of a ditch on the Sabbath, why it is lawful to circumcise a baby on the 8th day if it happens to fall on the Sabbath, and so forth.

Some Pharisees had reasoned that it is unlawful to do work on the Sabbath and that healing is work, therefore it is unlawful to heal on the Sabbath. However, we are also commanded to love our neighbors as ourselves, we would not be doing that if we refused to heal them, and no command was intended to be understood as preventing us from obeying the greatest two commandments, which is why it is lawful to heal on the Sabbath.

 

[Soyeong]

Neither did or could any of the Jews keep the law.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend on one point, he is guilty of all.

In James 2:1-11, he was speaking to people who had sinned by committing favoritism, so he was not telling them that they needed to have perfect obedience because that would have already been too late and he was not discouraging them from trying to keep it, but rather he was encouraging them to repent and to keep it more consistently. The would be no point in calling for people to repent is no one cold do that.

Bible Gateway passage: John 7:18-20 - 21st Century King James Version

He that speaketh from himself seeketh his own glory; but He that seeketh the glory of Him that sent Him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill Me?" The people answered and said, "Thou hast...

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18 He that speaketh from himself seeketh his own glory; but He that seeketh the glory of Him that sent Him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.

19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill Me?”

20 The people answered and said, “Thou hast a devil. Who goeth about to kill thee?”

A person speaking to someone who was not keeping the law does not mean that they are saying that no one did or could keep the law. There would be no point in criticizing someone for not keeping the law if no one could keep it. Moreover, there are many examples in the Bible of people who did keep the law, such as with those in Joshua 22:1-3 and Luke 1:5-6.

 

[Scott Downey]

In James 2:1-11, he was speaking to people who had sinned by committing favoritism, so he was not telling them that they needed to have perfect obedience because that would have already been too late and he was not discouraging them from trying to keep it, but rather he was encouraging them to repent and to keep it more consistently. The would be no point in calling for people to repent is no one cold do that.


A person speaking to someone who was not keeping the law does not mean that they are saying that no one did or could keep the law. There would be no point in criticizing someone for not keeping the law if no one could keep it. Moreover, there are many examples in the Bible of people who did keep the law, such as with those in Joshua 22:1-3 and Luke 1:5-6.

No need for a Savior if you can keep the law blameless?
No need to be forgiven then either as you never sinned, not even once, you were just as Christ in the world.

Romans 3:9
What then? Are we better than they? No, in no wise! For we have before proved that both Jews and Gentiles are all under sin.

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,

Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law, no flesh shall be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of (your) sin.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, so death passed onto all men, for all have sinned.

Romans 5:13
For until the law, sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Romans 5:20
Moreover the law entered, that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound,

Romans 7:5
For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins, which were by the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

 

[Soyeong]

No need for a Savior if you can keep the law blameless?
No need to be forgiven then either as you never sinned, not even once, you were just as Christ in the world.

Romans 3:9
What then? Are we better than they? No, in no wise! For we have before proved that both Jews and Gentiles are all under sin.

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,

Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law, no flesh shall be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of (your) sin.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, so death passed onto all men, for all have sinned.

Romans 5:13
For until the law, sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Romans 5:20
Moreover the law entered, that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound,

Romans 7:5
For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins, which were by the law, worked in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

I did not say that. The fact that we can have our sins forgiven demonstrates that we are not required to have perfect obedience. The only reason why someone would need to have perfect obedience is if they are going to give themselves to pay for the sins of the world - the rest of us can thankfully have our sins forgiven.

Paul said that the Law of God is good, that he wanted to do good, and that he delighted in obeying it in contrast with the law of sin, which was working within his members to cause him not to do the good that he wanted to do, which was waging war against the law of his mind, which he served with his flesh, and which the Law of the Spirit has freed us from. Some verses that refer to something that would be absurd for Paul to delight in doing should not be interpreted as referring to the Law of God, while verses that refer to something that is sinful, that causes sin to increase, or that hinders us from obeying the Law of God should be interpreted as referring to the law of sin, such as with Romans 5:20, Romans 6:14, Romans 7:5, Galatians 2:19, Galatians 5:18, and 1 Corinthians 15:56.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Neither did or could any of the Jews keep the law.

We are under the Law of Christ now in the New Covenant

Most are lawless and refuse to abide in Christ refusing to be led of the Holy Spirit.

This is why Jesus asked why do you call me Lord and don't do what I say? (Luke 6:46)

If one is not being led by the Holy Spirit then they are being led by devils.
You're either light side or dark side.