After your born again do you think you will never sin again?

[Armour of God]

 

[Wrangler]

Telling of what? Telling that your question was strange?
What did it even mean?

Answer my question THEN I’ll answer yours.

 

[Wrangler]

ROFL

You boys are acting like two year olds! Don't forget you are to obey Jesus' new commandment and love one another.

We can do both: love each other AND hold each other accountable for why we believe what we hold to be true. Iron sharpens iron.

 

[CrowCross]

Already answered. OSAS preacher?

You indicated ...works.

 

[RLT63]

I try not to sin but I fail and have to ask for forgiveness

 

[CrowCross]

I try not to sin but I fail and have to ask for forgiveness

Just curious...If a true born again christian sins and doesn't ask for forgiveness....is that sin all ready forgiven from when they were first saved?

When asking for forgiveness is it more for the christian to acknowledge their sin to God and restore any "fellowship" distortion that the christian may have created between the christian and God?

 

[RLT63]

Just curious...If a true born again christian sins and doesn't ask for forgiveness....is that sin all ready forgiven from when they were first saved?

When asking for forgiveness is it more for the christian to acknowledge their sin to God and restore any "fellowship" distortion that the christian may have created between the christian and God?

I’m not sure, I think all your sins are forgiven when you get saved and confession is more for the relationship but I wouldn’t want to take chances

 

[1stCenturyLady]

We can do both: love each other AND hold each other accountable for why we believe what we hold to be true. Iron sharpens iron.

It just struck me funny. I was scrolling and there wasn't a worthwhile post on the page!

 

[Wrangler]

It just struck me funny. I was scrolling and there wasn't a worthwhile post on the page!

Not all of us are polished, deep thinking theologians and don’t need to be to still make a valid point - even if delivered without social grace and polite introduction. We could all be more grace-filled even at the expense of efficient response to online error.

 

[CrowCross]

I’m not sure, I think all your sins are forgiven when you get saved and confession is more for the relationship but I wouldn’t want to take chances

I too believe all of your sins are forgiven when you get saved. By "all "I mean every sin, past, present as well as future have been forgiven.

When we ask for forgiveness as a saved christian.. asking for forgiveness it's no longer about salvation.

It's more of a way of saying to God....I know I've done wrong. In my sin I have pulled away from you on this issue and I don't want to be there.

 

[CrowCross]

Do you believe you can be raped by someone you chose to have sex with in the past?

That answer would be yes.
It's a strange question to ask...and I'm trying to understand why you would ask it.

 

[Wrangler]

That answer would be yes.
It's a strange question to ask...and I'm trying to understand why you would ask it.

Explain how you can be raped by someone you once consented to have sex with? How does that work? Why isn’t it, once you consent, you always consent?

 

[CrowCross]

Explain how you can be raped by someone you once consented to have sex with? How does that work? Why isn’t it, once you consent, you always consent?

Can you present the definition of rape and using the definition show how it supports your view?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I too believe all of your sins are forgiven when you get saved. By "all "I mean every sin, past, present as well as future have been forgiven.

When we ask for forgiveness as a saved christian.. asking for forgiveness it's no longer about salvation.

It's more of a way of saying to God....I know I've done wrong. In my sin I have pulled away from you on this issue and I don't want to be there.

I've got news for you, only unintentional sins you aren't aware of even are being cleansed according to 1 John 1:7 AS LONG AS you are abiding IN JESUS. There is a doctrine of demons running rampart for about 500 years that wants you to willfully sin believing they are not separating you from God so that you will die in your sins. Don't be tricked by the devil. Read 2 Peter 1 and know that it is only your past sins that you willfully committed that are cleansed at the time you are born again of the Spirit. Once you have the Spirit and are walking in the Light, He takes away all desire to willfully commit a sin that your conscience is screaming DON'T DO THAT and then you won't. That is "keeping" yourself according to 1 John 5:18. Also 1 John 3:3.

I pray that none of my fellow forum Christians are unteachable and if anyone you know who claims to be a Christian but you know are willfully sinning, they MUST be born again. I went to church for 30 years UNSAVED. But when I finally experienced the born again experience of being cleansed and filled with the Spirit, I literally could feel a heaviness lift out of my body and I went from committing adultery with no desire to stop, to hating what He hated, and loving what God loved.

 

[Wrangler]

Don't be tricked by the devil. Read 2 Peter 1 and know that it is only your past sins that you willfully committed that are cleansed at the time you are born again of the Spirit. Once you have the Spirit and are walking in the Light

@Behold isn’t going to like that assessment.

 

[The Learner]

Martin Luther "Sin boldly"):
"If you are a preacher of mercy, do not preach an imaginary but the true mercy. If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides. We, however, says Peter (2. Peter 3:13) are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth where justice will reign. It suffices that through God’s glory we have recognized the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world. No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day. Do you think such an exalted Lamb paid merely a small price with a meager sacrifice for our sins? Pray hard, for you are quite a sinner."


In 1552 the Spanish Inquisition took action against Servetus, but he escaped their hands. Later, the French Inquisition declared Servetus worthy of death but had to burn him in effigy, due to his escape. In August 1553, Servetus traveled to Geneva where he was recognized and at Calvin’s request was imprisoned by the city magistrates. The trial of Michael Servetus lasted through October, at which time the Council of Geneva condemned him to death. Servetus was burned at the stake on October 27, 1553. The Calvinists and the Catholics both wanted him dead, but the Calvinists got to him first.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Michael-Servetus+

Calvin and the controversial execution of Michael Servetus

In 1553, John Calvin became involved in one of the most controversial moments of the Reformation when Michael Servetus was arrested, tried, and executed in Geneva. Servetus had openly challenged central Christian doctrines and made powerful enemies across Europe, but his death at the hands of a...

www.historyskills.com

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2813%2900726-X/fulltext

De Trinitatis erroribus libri vii (1531) was a significant work by Michael Servetus, a Spanish physician and theologian. In this book, Servetus challenged the orthodox Christian doctrine of the Trinity. He proposed his own views, suggesting that the Word is an eternal expression of God, while the Spirit is God's power in humans. The Son, in his view, was the union of the eternal Word with Jesus. Both Protestants and Roman Catholics found his teachings heretical, and his unorthodox views ultimately led to his execution by Calvinists in Geneva

https://www.britannica.com/topic/De-Trinitatis-erroribus-librii-vii

 

[The Learner]

I'm sure you are speaking for yourself...

4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. 1 John 3:4-9

I see you are from Australia. My mother was a war bride and was raised in Toowoomba, Queensland. I love it there.

Bible Gateway passage: 1 John 3 - Easy-to-Read Version

We Are God’s Children - The Father has loved us so much! This shows how much he loved us: We are called children of God. And we really are his children. But the people in the world don’t understand that we are God’s children, because they have not known him. Dear friends, now we are children of...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[The Learner]

To anyone who believes as believers we can not sin, what is your parents, spouses, kids brothers sisters family pastors church leaders, email addresses?

 

[RLT63]

Explain how you can be raped by someone you once consented to have sex with? How does that work? Why isn’t it, once you consent, you always consent?

I think my ex wife could explain. Things change. I don’t think she would consent to sex now even though she once did.

 

[stevesonthebay]

Here is an example of what i meant by believing .
In John it was well written that the word was with GOD and the Word was God . I beleived that when i read it .

Yes and the rest. Though the first time I read it I pondered on it. Its strange that some people can believe such words and others don't. See it as unreal. Like Nicodemus they question how can "a Word or the Word" be a thing. Being abstract and subjective.

But I think I have more substance in belief now for that verse that I did when I first read it. I believed the same but now the verse has more meaning to me.

I also believed where JESUS said the Father is greater than I . though way back i did not understand that .
In time the understanding would come .

Yes that is what I meant above.

Now notice when some folks read it they twist it to fit what mens doctrines said . And it will make void what is written .
That was what i was talking about . The sheep can whiff a lie when said lie is being presented to them .
THOUGH they might not understand . For JESUS has the sheep .

Yes its like a radar. This is the fruits of the spirit I think. When you say "twist it to fit what mens doctrines" do you mean non believers or the wolves in the church. Because I think the wolves can have some pretty deceptive and decieving ways of twisting Gods word.

Things in revelation i still do n ot fully understand but do believe them .

I think as you say its "the evidence of things unseen". Something we sense or maybe experience as part of Gods knowledge being revealed. Of heavenly things. Christ says we do not exactly know but we can know like the changing of the seasons. The winds of change.

Though humans do have a history of believing unreal ideas and timelines. There needs to be decernment.

And yes when folks come along and try and teach things about even the things i do
not fully understand , STILL by grace i can whiff a lie . For if you watch closely
they will always twist something in order to fit it to what their own doctrine means for it to say .
Hope that helps my friend .

Yes thankyou.