Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[Episkopos]

"Progressive Christianity—is a contemporary religious movement that reinterprets traditional doctrines through modern science, historical-critical biblical scholarship, and an emphasis on social justice, inclusivity, and continuous questioning over rigid dogma,"

So who, beside yourself and a few women here... believe in a progressive religion?

Is mercy progressive? Only to a bigot.

 

[Hepzibah]

You in fact show yourself to be such. A progressive believes that a woman can teach men. Do you teach men? Again, people will declare themselves to be innocent of exactly what they are guilty of.

I am on a discussion board. Do you want to ban women? Not surprised if yes.

 

[Hepzibah]

So who, beside yourself and a few women here... believe in a progressive religion?

Is mercy progressive? Only to a bigot.

I believe that the faith was handed down by word of mouth and written by the apostles and there is nothing new to be added.

 

[Episkopos]

I am on a discussion board. Do you want to ban women? Not surprised if yes.

I'm talking about attitude. A woman tends to judge things by her emotions...how NICE people are, how others make them FEEL. When a man kowtows to that he becomes feminized...like most men in the churches of today. Beta males. As such men are not being men anymore. They are not leaders....they are all followers. And those who lead them are unbalanced psychopaths.

 

[Hepzibah]

I'm talking about attitude. A woman tends to judge things by her emotions...how NICE people are, how others make them FEEL. When a man kowtows to that he becomes feminized...like most men in the churches of today. Beta males. As such men are not being men anymore. They are not leaders....they are all followers. And those who lead them are unbalanced psychopaths.

Psychopaths are not led by their emotions - they do not have them.

Nor me because I am autistic. A numbr of men have told me I have very good analytical skills.

But I agree about the state of the church.

 

[Episkopos]

I believe that the faith was handed down by word of mouth and written by the apostles and there is nothing new to be added.

Have you read the bible? Or did you just memorize a slogan? The bible says that prophets get a revelation in the church meeting. And the people are edified. There are many mysteries regarding the kingdom of God. Only dogmatic dead believers want to remain ignorant of these things,

“How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.”

It's funny how your position is SOOO hypocritical and contradictory. On the one hand you want people to believe in holiness....and on the other you want people to stick to the deadness of the letter. Which is it???

 

[Episkopos]

Psychopaths are not led by their emotions - they do not have them.

Nor me because I am autistic. A numbr of men have told me I have very good analytical skills.

But I agree about the state of the church.

I'm talking about psychopathic men that take leadership roles since the men are feminized. They are passive and submissive to women. A psychopath sees that and moves right in.

 

[Hepzibah]

Have you read the bible? Or did you just memorize a slogan? The bible says that prophets get a revelation in the church meeting. And the people are edified. There are many mysteries regarding the kingdom of God. Only dogmatic dead believers want to remain ignorant of these things,

“How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.”

It's funny how your position is SOOO hypocritical and contradictory. On the one hand you want people to believe in holiness....and on the other you want people to stick to the deadness of the letter. Which is it???

Revelations will be in reference to the situation but nothing new. We know spiritual things through our spirits not our intellects.

You say that because you do not understand how the spirit works.

 

[Hepzibah]

God has to use me as there are no men around He can use to plead holiness.

 

[Episkopos]

Revelations will be in reference to the situation but nothing new. We know spiritual things through our spirits not our intellects.

You say that because you do not understand how the spirit works.

If it's nothing new then it's not a revelation. You live in England and you don't know English? I both know how the Spirit works AND how to interpret English...and French! (And some Hebrew)

I suggest you look up the word revelation and compare that with ....nothing new.

 

[Episkopos]

God has to use me as there are no men around He can use to plead holiness.

OK. That's fine. But you have never been discipled and your doctrines are wanky and self- collected from your preferred sources (fully outside the bible BTW). And you tell me that I don't know how the spirit works? How rich.

 

[Grailhunter]

"Progressive Christianity—is a contemporary religious movement that reinterprets traditional doctrines through modern science, historical-critical biblical scholarship, and an emphasis on social justice, inclusivity, and continuous questioning over rigid dogma,"

Progressive Christianity....definition? LOL It is like nailing Jell-O to the wall. It is mostly a derogatory term mainstream Christians have come up with for what they do not like, but even then with over 30,000 denominations out there it is mostly a matter of perspective.
New? The Protestants questioned "rigid dogma" when it pulled away from the Catholic Church.
It appears to have a social aspect that is leftist-socialism. Diversity---acceptance of homosexuals-trans-sexuals.
Science for the most part is not part of the Progressive-Christianity movement, except for things like evolution and the science of dating. Electricity, microwaves and satellite TV's and automobiles are not part of it although science was involved with the development of these.
At one time Christians believed that the world was flat and the sun and universe orbited Earth, and shooting stars were stars and at one time Christianity was against medical science. But this is mostly a progression of knowledge.

 

[ProDeo]

I'm talking about attitude. A woman tends to judge things by her emotions...how NICE people are, how others make them FEEL. When a man kowtows to that he becomes feminized...like most men in the churches of today. Beta males. As such men are not being men anymore. They are not leaders....they are all followers. And those who lead them are unbalanced psychopaths.

Psychopaths don't have empathy, the leaders you speak about have too much empathy, hence they condone sin.

 

[bdavidc]

That woman did NOT tell you to be quiet. She very gently and humbly brought up a consideration. You are severely out of control.

I was having a discussion with TitusTwoWife about how a Christian forum should deal with persistent false teaching. She answered me herself, and I answered her. I know she is not the owner of this forum. But I was commenting, hoping the owner might take notice. Yes, she is a very gentle and humble person.

If you want to address the Scriptures and the actual argument, then do so. It is not for you to say I am “severely out of control”. You are not a neutral observer here. You have repeatedly defended Episkopos, and when he explained part of his blood and holiness teaching, you replied, “That all makes sense, though still in a tentative way, For the first time ever.”

So before telling me I am “severely out of control” for confronting his false teaching, deal with the actual doctrine. Jesus said His blood was “shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28).

If you believe I am wrong, prove it from Scripture. Personal attacks are not a biblical argument.

 

[Debp]

Personal attacks are not a biblical argument.

I agree with you. I don't think you were out of control. You were stating a sound Biblical position.

 

[Laurina]

John 9:34 KJV
They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out.

So you want to cast Epi out from among the Pharisees as in the context of the verse you stated??

 

[GodsGrace]

I am thinking Episkopos is some sort of Calvinist and does not believe in free-will. It is a corrupt belief. On the other hand we are all here talking about Christion theology. It is all fruitful because it is as important to know what is the wrong Gospel as it is to know the right Gospel.

Yeshua saves if we are willing. Be good and do good. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 2nd Corinthians 5:10
The Johnny Appleseed of Truth.

@bdavidc is a reformed/calvinist believer.

Just to set the record straight.

I don't know what Episkopos believes and must go by what I read in his posts.

I can say,,,that we should be very clear in our statements about what the NT teaches.

But Calvinists do the same...
they dislike admitting that they are reformed and dance around the bush with veiled statements.

This is most unprofitable in conversation and takes the attention away fromt he word of God and places it, instead, on wasting time trying to clarify what the person is stating.

 

[GodsGrace]

I was having a discussion with TitusTwoWife about how a Christian forum should deal with persistent false teaching. She answered me herself, and I answered her. I know she is not the owner of this forum. But I was commenting, hoping the owner might take notice. Yes, she is a very gentle and humble person.

If you want to address the Scriptures and the actual argument, then do so. It is not for you to say I am “severely out of control”. You are not a neutral observer here. You have repeatedly defended Episkopos, and when he explained part of his blood and holiness teaching, you replied, “That all makes sense, though still in a tentative way, For the first time ever.”

So before telling me I am “severely out of control” for confronting his false teaching, deal with the actual doctrine. Jesus said His blood was “shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28).

If you believe I am wrong, prove it from Scripture. Personal attacks are not a biblical argument.

We finally agree about something.
Although I will never agree with your beliefs...
I find you to be very controlled and civil and respectful.

Something I cannot say for all reformed.

 

[ProDeo]

How do you know when you are sinless ?

In Him is no sin. What you should ask is how do you know you are abiding in Christ?

Sure, in Christ there is no sin.

But that does not answer my (above) question, allow me to be more specific.

1. Do you feel (felt) the presence of the Lord 24/7 in those periods / years?

2. Anything else so that you knew you were sinless, did the Lord told you?

3. What is (was) different than your normal walk.

I want to understand.

 

[Episkopos]

So you want to cast Epi out from among the Pharisees as in the context of the verse you stated??

Exactly. Cast out from among the Pharisees.