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Calling the biblical testing of doctrine “not unlike Satan” does not make your teaching true. It only shows how far you are willing to go to avoid having your claims tested by Scripture.

God explicitly commands believers to test what they are taught:

“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1)

The Bereans did exactly that when they “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so” (Acts 17:11). Scripture calls them noble for doing it. You are now trying to portray the very thing God commends as something resembling Satan. That accusation is completely backwards.

And your “no stone left upon another” warning does not rescue your argument. Jesus said that concerning the temple: “There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down” (Matthew 24:2). You are taking Christ’s words out of their context and turning them into some personal spiritual judgment against me.

You keep pronouncing judgments about my standing before God while refusing to show from Scripture where the doctrine I challenged is actually taught. That is the issue you keep avoiding.

Scripture says, “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20).

So stop hiding behind accusations, warnings, and private interpretations. If what you are teaching is from God, show it from the written Word. If you cannot, then you have no biblical authority to demand that anyone accept it.

God’s Word is the judge here, not you and not me.
Calling unbiblical testing biblical is against the Word of God (antiChrist).
 

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Your appeal to 2 Peter 3:16 has the same problem. Peter does not say Paul taught error. He says there are “some things hard to be understood,” which the “unlearned and unstable wrest...unto their own destruction.” That is a warning about people twisting Paul, not a warning that Paul cannot be trusted.

As for your question, yes, some passages in Paul require careful reading. Romans 9–11, parts of Romans 7, and portions of 1 Corinthians 15 are examples where context matters greatly. But “difficult to understand” does not mean “wrong,” and Peter certainly does not give us permission to invent a failed prophecy and attribute it to Paul.
Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit would lead us to all truth(John16:13), but it seems contradictory when you and Peter say that Paul's letters are difficult to understand and require careful study.

So we are still back at the original question: where did Paul actually say that Jesus would return before Paul died? You have not shown it.
There are two meanings associated with the word 'we': one that includes the writer and others, and one that excludes the writer.

I took the word 'we' from 1 Thessalonians 4:2 and then applied it to 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which led me to a failed rapture interpretation.
 

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I addressed this already--No, in saying "we who are alive and remain" Paul was not just speaking to that audience living at that time. He is stating the terms for all time, but specifically since Pentecost when one could be "alive" in Christ in God, but "remain" in the flesh and in this world until they/we pass. If it were not so, it would not have been entered into the eternal word of God as pertaining to the general issue of being in God, but also in the world.


I also explained, that Paul did seem to shift gears and change his outlook on the future and the return of Christ--but only because He was preaching to both those of Israel who were subject to the terms of Christ's first advent, and yet also, because he also preached to those who were then subject to Christ's next advent.
The interpretation of 'we' holds the power to either elevate or undermine the rapture - can this truly be the word of God?
 

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Calling unbiblical testing biblical is against the Word of God (antiChrist).
just in case you do not yet realize this , the all inclusive IS of satan and that which is of anti christ .
IT not only allows unbeleif to remain upon the false religoins as it sold a lie to them all ,
but it now grows in the real direction it was always leading them .
As some of its men even now call t hose who do preach the dire necessity to beleive on JESUS
to athiests and false religoins , AS RELIGIOUS extremism
THIS is exactly what the love of a harlot does . turns them more and more against the TRUTH of GOD
and deeper and deeper into the acceptance of sins and of Unbeleif .
And soon into eradicating all who did not conform to this all inclusive loved god . WHO was NEVER GOD .
 
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just in case you do not yet realize this , the all inclusive IS of satan and that which is of anti christ .
IT not only allows unbeleif to remain upon the false religoins as it sold a lie to them all ,
but it now grows in the real direction it was always leading them .
As some of its men even now call t hose who do preach the dire necessity to beleive on JESUS
to athiests and false religoins , AS RELIGIOUS extremism
THIS is exactly what the love of a harlot does . turns them more and more against the TRUTH of GOD
and deeper and deeper into the acceptance of sins and of Unbeleif .
And soon into eradicating all who did not conform to this all inclusive loved god . WHO was NEVER GOD .
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A Serious Warning to @Episkopos and @ScottA: Remember What Happened to Belshazzar

Episkopos and ScottA, I want to bring something to your attention from Daniel chapter 5, and I sincerely hope you will take the time to consider it. This isn't about winning another argument or proving who knows more about the Bible. This is about the danger of claiming to speak for God while teaching things that cannot be established from His written Word.

In Daniel 5, King Belshazzar was enjoying a great feast with a thousand of his nobles. He went so far as to bring out the sacred vessels taken from God's temple in Jerusalem and use them to drink wine while praising false gods. He apparently thought he could dishonor the Lord of heaven without consequences.

But then something happened that changed everything. The fingers of a man's hand appeared and began writing on the wall. The king was terrified, and none of his wise men could explain what was written. Daniel was brought in, and he didn't flatter the king or tell him what he wanted to hear. He told him the truth.

Daniel reminded Belshazzar of how God had humbled Nebuchadnezzar because of his pride. Then he said something that should get the attention of anyone who claims to represent God:

"But you his son, Belshazzar, have not humbled your heart, although you knew all this." (Daniel 5:22)

That is what makes this account so serious. Belshazzar wasn't ignorant of what God had done. He knew, yet he refused to humble himself. Daniel then told him, "And the God who holds your breath in His hand and owns all your ways, you have not glorified" (Daniel 5:23).

Episkopos and ScottA, neither of you is a king, and I am not suggesting that your circumstances are identical to Belshazzar's. But the warning about pride, refusing correction, and failing to honor God's Word certainly applies to anyone who claims to speak for Him.

You both speak with great confidence about spiritual things, but confidence does not make a teaching true. Claiming spiritual understanding does not establish that God has revealed something to you. And insisting that others simply cannot see what you supposedly see is no substitute for opening the Scriptures and demonstrating that what you teach is actually written there.

God has already given us a standard for examining such claims. Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

And James 3:1 warns, "My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment."

That should concern anyone who takes it upon himself to teach others in God's name.

I am not claiming to know your hearts, nor am I claiming to speak a personal judgment from God against either of you. But I am warning you that teaching what contradicts Scripture, while refusing to be corrected by Scripture, is a serious matter.

Look at how Daniel 5 ends. God declared that Belshazzar had been weighed in the balances and found wanting. Then Daniel 5:30 tells us, "That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, was slain."

Belshazzar had no idea when that evening began that it would be his last. His position, wealth, and power could not protect him from God's judgment.

Neither of you knows how many days you have remaining, either. The God who held Belshazzar's breath in His hand holds yours and mine as well. Hebrews 9:27 reminds us, "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment."

I am not saying God has pronounced Belshazzar's particular judgment upon you. Scripture gives me no authority to make that claim. But the same God who judged Belshazzar will judge every one of us, and those who presume to teach in His name will answer for what they have taught.

So I am urging both of you to examine yourselves honestly before God. Stop treating your own understanding as though it carries the authority of Scripture. If you believe something is from God, establish it from His Word in its proper context. And when Scripture contradicts what you teach, humble yourselves enough to accept correction.

I have no desire to see either of you perish. Second Peter 3:9 tells us that the Lord is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

Belshazzar knew what God had done, but he would not humble himself. Don't make the same mistake. You may not be kings, but you are accountable to the very same God.

And remember, this warning applies to me just as much as it does to you. None of us stands above God's Word, and none of us will escape giving an account to Him.
 
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A Serious Warning to @Episkopos and @ScottA: Remember What Happened to Belshazzar

Episkopos and ScottA, I want to bring something to your attention from Daniel chapter 5, and I sincerely hope you will take the time to consider it. This isn't about winning another argument or proving who knows more about the Bible. This is about the danger of claiming to speak for God while teaching things that cannot be established from His written Word.

In Daniel 5, King Belshazzar was enjoying a great feast with a thousand of his nobles. He went so far as to bring out the sacred vessels taken from God's temple in Jerusalem and use them to drink wine while praising false gods. He apparently thought he could dishonor the Lord of heaven without consequences.

But then something happened that changed everything. The fingers of a man's hand appeared and began writing on the wall. The king was terrified, and none of his wise men could explain what was written. Daniel was brought in, and he didn't flatter the king or tell him what he wanted to hear. He told him the truth.

Daniel reminded Belshazzar of how God had humbled Nebuchadnezzar because of his pride. Then he said something that should get the attention of anyone who claims to represent God:

"But you his son, Belshazzar, have not humbled your heart, although you knew all this." (Daniel 5:22)

That is what makes this account so serious. Belshazzar wasn't ignorant of what God had done. He knew, yet he refused to humble himself. Daniel then told him, "And the God who holds your breath in His hand and owns all your ways, you have not glorified" (Daniel 5:23).

Episkopos and ScottA, neither of you is a king, and I am not suggesting that your circumstances are identical to Belshazzar's. But the warning about pride, refusing correction, and failing to honor God's Word certainly applies to anyone who claims to speak for Him.

You both speak with great confidence about spiritual things, but confidence does not make a teaching true. Claiming spiritual understanding does not establish that God has revealed something to you. And insisting that others simply cannot see what you supposedly see is no substitute for opening the Scriptures and demonstrating that what you teach is actually written there.

God has already given us a standard for examining such claims. Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

And James 3:1 warns, "My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment."

That should concern anyone who takes it upon himself to teach others in God's name.

I am not claiming to know your hearts, nor am I claiming to speak a personal judgment from God against either of you. But I am warning you that teaching what contradicts Scripture, while refusing to be corrected by Scripture, is a serious matter.

Look at how Daniel 5 ends. God declared that Belshazzar had been weighed in the balances and found wanting. Then Daniel 5:30 tells us, "That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, was slain."

Belshazzar had no idea when that evening began that it would be his last. His position, wealth, and power could not protect him from God's judgment.

Neither of you knows how many days you have remaining, either. The God who held Belshazzar's breath in His hand holds yours and mine as well. Hebrews 9:27 reminds us, "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment."

I am not saying God has pronounced Belshazzar's particular judgment upon you. Scripture gives me no authority to make that claim. But the same God who judged Belshazzar will judge every one of us, and those who presume to teach in His name will answer for what they have taught.

So I am urging both of you to examine yourselves honestly before God. Stop treating your own understanding as though it carries the authority of Scripture. If you believe something is from God, establish it from His Word in its proper context. And when Scripture contradicts what you teach, humble yourselves enough to accept correction.

I have no desire to see either of you perish. Second Peter 3:9 tells us that the Lord is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

Belshazzar knew what God had done, but he would not humble himself. Don't make the same mistake. You may not be kings, but you are accountable to the very same God.

And remember, this warning applies to me just as much as it does to you. None of us stands above God's Word, and none of us will escape giving an account to Him.
Agreed. But you needn't use such a warning to specific people....but to all. Then watch who agrees or not. That is a wiser approach.
 
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The interpretation of 'we' holds the power to either elevate or undermine the rapture - can this truly be the word of God?
I don't see how it is that you are making that connection.

The rapture (so called) simply describes the experience of fully taking on the Holy Spirit and passing from death to life. Which is not as obvious to some while remaining in the flesh and in the world, for the flesh blinds while the Spirit gives sight that varies greater or lesser from person to person.
 

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I was thinking about something today that I believe every Christian needs to seriously consider. We hear a lot about deception, but most of us probably think we would recognize it if we saw it. If somebody openly denied Jesus Christ or said the Bible was false, we would know something was wrong. But what if the person deceiving you carried a Bible, quoted Scripture, called himself a preacher and told you that God had spoken to him?

That is what makes the story in 1 Kings 13 so interesting to me.

Jeroboam had led Israel into idolatry, and God sent an unnamed man of God to Bethel with a message of judgment. The man obeyed. He stood before the king and delivered God's message. When Jeroboam ordered that he be seized, his hand dried up so that he could not pull it back. The altar was also split apart, just as the man of God had said. Jeroboam then asked him to pray for him, and God restored the king's hand.

Imagine being that man. You have just stood before a king without backing down and watched God confirm His Word right in front of you. Then the king invites you home and offers you a reward.

The man refuses because God had already given him specific instructions: "For so was it charged me by the word of the LORD, saying, Eat no bread, nor drink water, nor turn again by the same way that thou camest" (1 Kings 13:9).

There wasn't any confusion. He knew exactly what God had told him.

Then another prophet showed up.

The old prophet found the man of God and invited him home to eat. Again the man refused and explained God's command. Then the old prophet said, "I am a prophet also as thou art; and an angel spake unto me by the word of the LORD, saying, Bring him back with thee into thine house" (1 Kings 13:18).

That sounds pretty convincing. Here was another prophet claiming that an angel had spoken to him and that his message came from God.

But Scripture immediately tells us what was really happening: "But he lied unto him."

Think about that. The old prophet didn't tell the man, "Disobey God." Instead, he claimed God had given him some new information. It sounded spiritual. It involved a prophet, an angel and supposedly a word from the Lord.

The problem was that it contradicted what God had already said.

The man of God went home with him and disobeyed God's command. It eventually cost him his life.

That is what makes this story so sobering. The man who was deceived wasn't ignorant of God. He had obeyed God, spoken God's Word, stood courageously before a king and witnessed God's power. Yet he was still deceived.

Sometimes some of the most dangerous words a Christian can hear are, "God told me." Someone can say, "The Lord showed me," or claim to have received a dream, vision or special revelation. But if what they are telling us contradicts what God has already said in Scripture, we already have our answer.

Paul takes this so far that he says, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:8).

Even an angel doesn't get to change what God has already revealed.

This becomes harder when the person teaching error is someone we like. It is easy to talk about false teachers when we are thinking about somebody else's favorite preacher. It becomes much harder when it is ours. Maybe we have listened to someone for years. Maybe we have learned good things from him. Maybe he knows Greek and Hebrew, has written books and has thousands of people listening to him.

None of that makes him the standard. Scripture is still the standard.

Jesus warned, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" (Matthew 7:15). A wolf walking toward a flock looking like a wolf isn't going to fool many sheep. The danger is that he looks like one of them.

False teachers don't necessarily announce themselves as false teachers. They may sound biblical, quote Scripture and talk about Jesus. That is why we have to judge what is being taught by God's Word rather than by how much we like the person teaching it.

Jeremiah 23 gives us another picture of the same problem. God said of certain prophets, "I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied" (Jeremiah 23:21).

They were speaking. People were listening. They were doing it in God's name. There was just one problem. God had not sent them.

God then says, "But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way" (Jeremiah 23:22). Instead, Jeremiah says these prophets strengthened "the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness" (Jeremiah 23:14).

Imagine going to a doctor who discovers that you have a deadly disease. He knows something is seriously wrong, but he doesn't want to upset you. So he smiles, pats you on the shoulder and tells you everything looks great.

You would probably leave feeling wonderful about your doctor, but his kindness didn't help you. It may have kept you from getting the treatment that could have saved your life. The loving thing would have been to tell you the truth.

The same is true when God's Word warns us about sin. A preacher isn't loving people when he hides what God has said because he doesn't want to offend them.

God specifically appointed Ezekiel as a watchman to Israel and told him, "Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me" (Ezekiel 3:17).

We need to keep that in context. God was speaking directly to Ezekiel about the responsibility He had given him. But notice the principle: "hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me."

Ezekiel wasn't supposed to invent the message or soften it until people accepted it. He was supposed to faithfully deliver what God had said. He couldn't make the people repent, but he was responsible to give them God's warning.

Paul tells Timothy something similar: "Preach the word...reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine" (2 Timothy 4:2). Then he explains why: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears" (2 Timothy 4:3).

Sometimes the problem isn't that people cannot find the truth. The problem is that they keep looking until they find somebody willing to tell them what they already wanted to believe.

The internet has made that incredibly easy. I can pick up my phone and within an hour listen to ten people teaching ten different things about the same passage. If I don't like what one person says, I can keep scrolling until I find somebody who agrees with me.

Suppose Scripture says something I don't like. Instead of allowing Scripture to correct me, I start searching. Eventually somebody tells me, "That verse doesn't really mean what you think." Another tells me Christians have misunderstood it for centuries. Someone else says the Greek or Hebrew actually means something completely different.

Before long I may find exactly what I was looking for. But maybe I wasn't really looking for truth. Maybe I was looking for an excuse.

That is why I like the example of the Bereans. When Paul preached to them, they "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11).

Think about that. They checked Paul.

If Paul's preaching was examined by Scripture, why would we put some preacher on television, YouTube, Facebook or behind a pulpit beyond examination?

John tells us, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God" (1 John 4:1). We aren't told to believe everything that sounds Christian. We are told to test it.

That brings us back to the man sitting under the tree in 1 Kings 13. God had told him one thing, and a prophet told him something different. There should never have been a contest because God had already spoken.

There is something about that story that really stays with me. This man was strong enough to stand before a king, but he was deceived by a prophet. Maybe he expected opposition from the king but didn't expect deception from somebody who appeared to be on his side.

We should think about that.

The voice most likely to deceive us may not be someone standing outside Christianity attacking the Bible. It may be somebody standing inside Christianity holding one.

That is why our confidence cannot ultimately rest in a preacher, teacher, ministry, denomination, website or even this forum. It has to rest in the Word of God.

Jeremiah puts it plainly: "He that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD" (Jeremiah 23:28).

That is what we should want. Give us God's Word, and then let God's Word correct us wherever we are wrong.

So here is something I think all of us should seriously consider. If one of our favorite Christian teachers began teaching something that we discovered clearly contradicted Scripture, would God's Word be enough for us to reject that teaching, even if we really liked and respected the person teaching it?

Totally love your post brother, fine job :gd:woohoo!::no 1:
 
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A Serious Warning to @Episkopos and @ScottA: Remember What Happened to Belshazzar

Episkopos and ScottA, I want to bring something to your attention from Daniel chapter 5, and I sincerely hope you will take the time to consider it. This isn't about winning another argument or proving who knows more about the Bible. This is about the danger of claiming to speak for God while teaching things that cannot be established from His written Word.

In Daniel 5, King Belshazzar was enjoying a great feast with a thousand of his nobles. He went so far as to bring out the sacred vessels taken from God's temple in Jerusalem and use them to drink wine while praising false gods. He apparently thought he could dishonor the Lord of heaven without consequences.

But then something happened that changed everything. The fingers of a man's hand appeared and began writing on the wall. The king was terrified, and none of his wise men could explain what was written. Daniel was brought in, and he didn't flatter the king or tell him what he wanted to hear. He told him the truth.

Daniel reminded Belshazzar of how God had humbled Nebuchadnezzar because of his pride. Then he said something that should get the attention of anyone who claims to represent God:

"But you his son, Belshazzar, have not humbled your heart, although you knew all this." (Daniel 5:22)

That is what makes this account so serious. Belshazzar wasn't ignorant of what God had done. He knew, yet he refused to humble himself. Daniel then told him, "And the God who holds your breath in His hand and owns all your ways, you have not glorified" (Daniel 5:23).

Episkopos and ScottA, neither of you is a king, and I am not suggesting that your circumstances are identical to Belshazzar's. But the warning about pride, refusing correction, and failing to honor God's Word certainly applies to anyone who claims to speak for Him.

You both speak with great confidence about spiritual things, but confidence does not make a teaching true. Claiming spiritual understanding does not establish that God has revealed something to you. And insisting that others simply cannot see what you supposedly see is no substitute for opening the Scriptures and demonstrating that what you teach is actually written there.

God has already given us a standard for examining such claims. Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

And James 3:1 warns, "My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment."

That should concern anyone who takes it upon himself to teach others in God's name.

I am not claiming to know your hearts, nor am I claiming to speak a personal judgment from God against either of you. But I am warning you that teaching what contradicts Scripture, while refusing to be corrected by Scripture, is a serious matter.

Look at how Daniel 5 ends. God declared that Belshazzar had been weighed in the balances and found wanting. Then Daniel 5:30 tells us, "That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, was slain."

Belshazzar had no idea when that evening began that it would be his last. His position, wealth, and power could not protect him from God's judgment.

Neither of you knows how many days you have remaining, either. The God who held Belshazzar's breath in His hand holds yours and mine as well. Hebrews 9:27 reminds us, "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment."

I am not saying God has pronounced Belshazzar's particular judgment upon you. Scripture gives me no authority to make that claim. But the same God who judged Belshazzar will judge every one of us, and those who presume to teach in His name will answer for what they have taught.

So I am urging both of you to examine yourselves honestly before God. Stop treating your own understanding as though it carries the authority of Scripture. If you believe something is from God, establish it from His Word in its proper context. And when Scripture contradicts what you teach, humble yourselves enough to accept correction.

I have no desire to see either of you perish. Second Peter 3:9 tells us that the Lord is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

Belshazzar knew what God had done, but he would not humble himself. Don't make the same mistake. You may not be kings, but you are accountable to the very same God.

And remember, this warning applies to me just as much as it does to you. None of us stands above God's Word, and none of us will escape giving an account to Him.
You have made claims and judged both, therefore, as it is written, by "what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you."
 

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Agreed. But you needn't use such a warning to specific people....but to all. Then watch who agrees or not. That is a wiser approach.
@Episkopos, I warned everyone, including myself. I specifically addressed you and ScottA because of your teachings and repeated resistance to correction from Scripture.

Paul confronted Peter directly (Galatians 2:11) and named false teachers publicly (2 Timothy 2:17-18). Titus 1:13 says, "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith."

Stop criticizing how I deliver the warning and address the warning itself. If what you teach is from God, prove it from Scripture. If Scripture contradicts your teaching, repent rather than defend it.

Belshazzar knew the truth but refused to humble himself (Daniel 5:22). Don't make the same mistake.
 
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@Episkopos, I warned everyone, including myself. I specifically addressed you and ScottA because of your teachings and repeated resistance to correction from Scripture.

Paul confronted Peter directly (Galatians 2:11) and named false teachers publicly (2 Timothy 2:17-18). Titus 1:13 says, "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith."

Stop criticizing how I deliver the warning and address the warning itself. If what you teach is from God, prove it from Scripture. If Scripture contradicts your teaching, repent rather than defend it.

Belshazzar knew the truth but refused to humble himself (Daniel 5:22). Don't make the same mistake.
Years .
For years .
One amongst us has not heard the dire reminder that one must BELIEVE ON JESUS .
and as of late grows only worse . The delusion of the inclusion will be their end my friend .
 
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@Episkopos, I warned everyone, including myself. I specifically addressed you and ScottA because of your teachings and repeated resistance to correction from Scripture.

Paul confronted Peter directly (Galatians 2:11) and named false teachers publicly (2 Timothy 2:17-18). Titus 1:13 says, "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith."

Stop criticizing how I deliver the warning and address the warning itself. If what you teach is from God, prove it from Scripture. If Scripture contradicts your teaching, repent rather than defend it.

Belshazzar knew the truth but refused to humble himself (Daniel 5:22). Don't make the same mistake.
that is the case of ignorance verses WILL FULL ignorance .
And many are willfully choosing to shun the one true gospel of YE MUST BELEIVE IN JESUS
for an all inclusive one that makes v oid the dire need to DO SO .
And that my friend IS A FACT . And not only is it a fact , IT WILL BE THEIR END ON JESUS DAY .
We should NEVER have abandoned the one true gospel . but many did and many have and many are on the brink of doing so .
We g ot problems in the house my friend .
But at least know this . I had rather DIE and or be in prison and awaiting a death sentence
THAN TO EVER accept a false gospel . To ever DENY THE SON .
FOREHEAD LIKE FLINT . Better to suffer and die for JESUS than to live a king in satans ecuemeincal all inclusive lie .
 

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@Episkopos, I warned everyone, including myself. I specifically addressed you and ScottA because of your teachings and repeated resistance to correction from Scripture.

Paul confronted Peter directly (Galatians 2:11) and named false teachers publicly (2 Timothy 2:17-18). Titus 1:13 says, "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith."

Stop criticizing how I deliver the warning and address the warning itself. If what you teach is from God, prove it from Scripture. If Scripture contradicts your teaching, repent rather than defend it.

Belshazzar knew the truth but refused to humble himself (Daniel 5:22). Don't make the same mistake.
What does the inclusive one accept that all other false religoins and atheist have already accepted .
UNBELIEF IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
and there it is .
And what is the one lie capable of merging all the decieved religoins as well as the decieved in christendom .
THE INCLUSIVE ONE . as it hollers all religoins be serving the same GOD a christiain does .
NOW in this ecumeincal inclusive intefaith
WHAT DO YOU ALSO SEE . not only the lie
but the BELEIF this is the path to world
World what .
PEACE N SAFETY .
AND NOW A WORD to remind us all of something .
FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE N SAFETY , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION shall come upon them all and they will not escape .
A strong delusion to BELEIVE A LIE and to be damned . SOMETHING sure has come upon this last generation .
And just like king ahab this generation heeds the lying spirit sent out to all the false prophets .
And just like king ahab it rejects the message of the true .
But tell me , what became of king ahab who was told by the false prophets to go up and ye shall have the victory .
I WLL REMIND us what happend , MICAH had told that king that a lying spirit was sent to his false prophets
and that HE saw israel scattered . And just like king ahab , this inclusive generation rejects
the warnings of the true and heeds only the promise of their coming peace n sa fety .
ONLY GUESS what . IT AINT GONNA BE PEACE N SAFETY FOR THEM on JESUS DAY , ITS GONNA be sudden destruction
as in their own . OH yeah a lying spirit has been sent .
And its been sent to the false religoins and to christendom , to merge them all , UNDER A LIE
and by a covenant they beleive WILL BE for peace n safety . OH NOT IT WONT . IT DENEID THE GOSPEL OF JESUS .
 
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2 Timothy 2:15-19 KJV
15) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16) But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17) And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18) Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
19) Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Paul didn't hold back from naming names.

Is someone hoping to hide?
 
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What does the inclusive one accept that all other false religoins and atheist have already accepted .
UNBELIEF IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
and there it is .
And what is the one lie capable of merging all the decieved religoins as well as the decieved in christendom .
THE INCLUSIVE ONE . as it hollers all religoins be serving the same GOD a christiain does .
NOW in this ecumeincal inclusive intefaith
WHAT DO YOU ALSO SEE . not only the lie
but the BELEIF this is the path to world
World what .
PEACE N SAFETY .
AND NOW A WORD to remind us all of something .
FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE N SAFETY , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION shall come upon them all and they will not escape .
A strong delusion to BELEIVE A LIE and to be damned . SOMETHING sure has come upon this last generation .
And just like king ahab this generation heeds the lying spirit sent out to all the false prophets .
And just like king ahab it rejects the message of the true .
But tell me , what became of king ahab who was told by the false prophets to go up and ye shall have the victory .
I WLL REMIND us what happend , MICAH had told that king that a lying spirit was sent to his false prophets
and that HE saw israel scattered . And just like king ahab , this inclusive generation rejects
the warnings of the true and heeds only the promise of their coming peace n sa fety .
ONLY GUESS what . IT AINT GONNA BE PEACE N SAFETY FOR THEM on JESUS DAY , ITS GONNA be sudden destruction
as in their own . OH yeah a lying spirit has been sent .
And its been sent to the false religoins and to christendom , to merge them all , UNDER A LIE
and by a covenant they beleive WILL BE for peace n safety . OH NOT IT WONT . IT DENEID THE GOSPEL OF JESUS .
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@Episkopos, I warned everyone, including myself. I specifically addressed you and ScottA because of your teachings and repeated resistance to correction from Scripture.

You are not scripture. And you are the very worst offender here. You condemned yourself based on the fact that you have seen nothing. You think that's fine...but that bible of yours condemns you as someone who teaches falsely from your own imagination.

The fact that you won't listen to the bible proves your stance is gigantically hypocritical

PROVE you listen to the word of God by submitting yourself to it...not just saying you do then ignoring it.
Paul confronted Peter directly (Galatians 2:11) and named false teachers publicly (2 Timothy 2:17-18). Titus 1:13 says, "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith."

Stop criticizing how I deliver the warning and address the warning itself. If what you teach is from God, prove it from Scripture. If Scripture contradicts your teaching, repent rather than defend it.

Belshazzar knew the truth but refused to humble himself (Daniel 5:22). Don't make the same mistake.
I have rebuked you already. I defend the truth that is contained in the bible that you refuse to listen to.
 
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