I didn't ask you but I'll ask you now - do you believe that trees have hands and clap them? Or do you think that's just figurative language the Bible uses to teach a deeper truth?
Flat Earth Theory
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I didn't ask you but I'll ask you now - do you believe that trees have hands and clap them? Or do you think that's just figurative language the Bible uses to teach a deeper truth?
That's awesome! It's not a guarantee, because they don't always/usually advertise their membership. Their goal is to infiltrate churches, which they do very well.
Strange....you went out and found some video I'm suppose to watch and completely ran from the point about viewing Jupiter.
The Artemis Lie.
Video and written proof of the demonic deception of space travel.theamericanclassroom.substack.com
How is it you cannot see?
Is it possible to view Jupiter and its moons and determine Jupiter is a sphere? How is doing this cultic?
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Wilbur Glenn Voliva (1870–1942) – The Literal Cult Leader
A "cult leader" running a Flat Earth society is Wilbur Glenn Voliva. He took over the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church and ruled the town of Zion, Illinois, as a strict, authoritarian theocracy in the early 20th century.
- The Inspiration: Voliva adopted Rowbotham’s Flat Earth teachings and made them the mandatory, foundational doctrine of his entire community. He taught that the Earth was flat, the Sun was only a few thousand miles high, and gravity did not exist......does this sound like your cult David?
- The Cult-like Control: Voliva held absolute dictatorial control over Zion. He owned all the town's industries, banned the teaching of modern astronomy and evolution (calling them the "trinity of evils"), and mandated that anyone caught teaching that the Earth was a globe would be harassed or expelled from the town. He broadcasted his Flat Earth views across North America using a massive 50,000-watt radio station
Every planet and moon and star is spherical EXCEPT the earth, which is shaped like a quarter. Didn't you know that?
And even though this issue has literally nothing to do with salvation or the nature of God or anything, and even though Satan hasn't been able to keep us from splitting atoms and discovering DNA and the human immune system and tiny molecular machinery and cure diseases, it's really, really, REALLY important to Satan to conceal this truth from us, because reasons.
David in NJ
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David in NJ
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The most influential world-wide cult leader is the Pope/RCC = who is a globalist.
Are you that naive?
Does God open the eyes and minds of believers to the truth, or are believers forever trapped in the web of deceit spun by Satan?
David in NJ
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a.) What did the LORD Jesus Christ Say about this very thing in His Gospel?
b.) What did the Apostles say about this very thing in their letters?
c.) At what point in our Salvation in Christ, while on earth, do we obtain perfect knowledge of all things?
Nobody ever remotely suggested that we obtain "perfect knowledge of all things". When you have to argue by using straw men, you know you're in trouble.
Look.... I've asked this question numerous times now and haven't gotten anything remotely resembling a decent answer. I'll try again though.
God wants us to know truth. 1 Timothy 2:4 - God "desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." We know there's an enemy who seeks to deceive, even the elect (Matt 24:24).
There are so many amazing things to learn about the world we live in. So many truths for us to know. In fairly recent times, we have discovered the speed of light, learned how to split atoms, learned how neural networks work in the brain, observed molecular machines that put modern equipment to shame, built machines to go safely to the bottom of the ocean, travel many times faster than the speed of sound, learned how to cure all sorts of diseases, found ways to replace human organs, and even decoded the language of life: DNA.
We've developed technology that allows even you, a flat-earth guy, to pick up his phone and know EXACTLY where on earth you are at any moment, and can give you precise directions to get in your car and arrive at a destination that takes days to get there. Like, from exact spot on earth A to exact spot on earth B.
It would seem to please God to show us all this truth, since He desires for people to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. It may anger Satan that we have learned all this truth. Or maybe it doesn't, since his desire is to thwart the redemptive plan of God. He doesn't mind if we discover truth and are successful in the process IF that takes us off track in terms of God's redemptive plan.
Satan seems powerless to keep us from discovering DNA and molecular machines and all that stuff I mentioned above. Either that or he doesn't care about us knowing that so he doesn't work to keep us from knowing. Either that or God has overcome Satan and let us learn this stuff anyway. None of that is truth related to salvation anyway.
So why, oh WHY, does Satan care SO MUCH about the freaking SHAPE OF THE EARTH? You and I have already agreed that the shape of the earth is utterly IRRELEVANT to salvation. And Satan's goal is to thwart the redemptive plan of God. He seems quite content to let humanity know truth about the world as long as it doesn't affect salvation. So why is THIS one so dang important to Satan?
What makes THIS such a priority for Satan? We've both agreed that if we all believed the world was flat, Satan would still be actively trying to prevent people from getting saved anyway. So the shape of the earth literally has nothing to do with salvation, God's redemptive plan, or Satan's work to deceive people from knowing God. Can you give me a good reason why this would matter so much to Satan?
Do you know how GPS works and how your phone can tell you exactly where on earth you are at any given moment?
How are you doing coming up with a reasonably accurate flat earth map for me?
Because what's crazy, @David in NJ, is that our current round earth maps, and our current GPS system, does a remarkable job telling us exactly where on earth we are, and how we can get to our desired location. That's something that's only possible with accurate maps. So man, either these round earth maps are really good, or it's essentially a miracle that our phones with GPS can tell us where we are so accurately.
I mean, even YOU can use your phone this way. And it'll tell even you - a flat earth believer - where you are in the world. This technology works for even you flat earthers.
I mean, even YOU can use your phone this way. And it'll tell even you - a flat earth believer - where you are in the world. This technology works for even you flat earthers.
You seem to be disappointed that your cult leader Wilbur Glenn Voliva...isn't as big as the cult leader pope.
NASA & MK Ultra
MK Ultra survivor who was used and programmed by military and NASA, Cathy O'Brien, reported that when she was pregnant with her daughter, Kelly, they did amniocentesis at NASA and probing, no doubt, to check her DNA and predetermine genetic information that would be useful for them in continuing their mind control experiments multigenerationally.
MK Ultra survivor who was used and programmed by military and NASA, Cathy O'Brien, reported that when she was pregnant with her daughter, Kelly, they did amniocentesis at NASA and probing, no doubt, to check her DNA and predetermine genetic information that would be useful for them in continuing their mind control experiments multigenerationally.
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David in NJ
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You missed the target
That is what this thread is all about = TRUTH from the Mouth of GOD
Split atoms = Nuclear bombs for destruction
All in preparation for the cashless world system and the Mark of the Beast
You have equated truth with technology that is imprisoning the world under Satan.
The Only WAY is thru the WORD of GOD which endures forever = Romans 10:17
Again, you just handed Satan a wonderful applause as you errantly think technology is truth.
JESUS Says: "Thy word is Truth"
CORRECT
and Satan's plan for thousands of years has been the globe earth orbitting the sun.
Today, Satan has been using technology to implement this plan back in 1961 with Jack Parsons, Ron Hubbard, Verner Von Braun, Stanley Kubrik and Walt Disney
CORRECT = TV, Movies, video games, fake science, CGI and now AI
Satan LOVES the humans he controls using DNA and molecular machines = all part of the coming Mark of the Beast
Because it keeps the world and christians dumbed down and divided = Satan's SUCCESS
Because it prepares the world for = 2 Thessalonians 2:5-12
AGREE
Genesis is God's Word = TRUTH
Therefore, many MORE people would be open to the gospel if Satan had not blinded their minds to Genesis/Creation
You are arguing from the realm of human logic.
RETURN to Matthew 4:4 and John 17:17 and Proverbs 30:5-6
David in NJ
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Mark Phillips was wrong about his statement that people with DID could be randomly set off by a word or phrase, etc, and become suicidal and homicidal. Only a handler or programmer can set off an MK victim's programming (by words, a signal, a sound, color, object, etc).
Maybe Mark was too early in his understanding ...or perhaps, he was sent to intercept someone (Cathy O'Brien) who was beginning to break their programming, and thus, her daughter would be less accessible to them. So they set off Kelly's programming, and she had to be institutionalized at age 8. She was still in the mental institution at age 16. I guarantee, she was being consistently handled, programmed, and used while in that place. And Cathy believed Mark was helping them ....maybe Mark believed he was helping them (while he too was programmed). Idk, but to this day, Cathy is a big voice in the survivor community, but still not fully free ...she is New Age-leaning in her beliefs.
@doctrox any idea about Kelly? I wonder if she ever made any headway toward freedom.
...to simulate weightlessness. Here's one such NASA zero-gravity facility.
I think they call it the "vomit comet," where NASA simulates weightlessness using a parabolic flight path in a specialized aircraft. NASA's "Parabolic flights simulate space travel".
If a sinner is perpetuating a lie, that sinner GOES TO HELL.
It's a no-brainer.
One lie begets another. IOW, who told you what to believe about a "lunar eclipse"?
"everybody" ??? - "nobody"??? It's not a numbers game. Just one of those lying Luciferians would be cause enough for grave concern... A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
139,000 hits on this thread!
BTW, it's time that we leave the shills to their own devices. They're here to disrupt and bury the truths that are being posted here. There comes a point where we discern the door is destined to close.
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Thank you, @doctrox. I'm getting ready for a walk (indoors, lol) ...and will check the links as soon as I can settle in for the night.
What I remember is being in a small "room" about the size of an elevator and (yes) it drops and suddenly there is no floor under my feet. There were a few others in there with me at times. We had to stay upright and be ready to land on our feet (hopefully) when it came to a stop. That's the thing that was first and foremost in my mind, at least. I absolutely hated it!! Idk how old I was, but I was a child.
I want to make a bookmark here to remind myself that I want to post something later ...not here, but elsewhere.
What I remember is being in a small "room" about the size of an elevator and (yes) it drops and suddenly there is no floor under my feet. There were a few others in there with me at times. We had to stay upright and be ready to land on our feet (hopefully) when it came to a stop. That's the thing that was first and foremost in my mind, at least. I absolutely hated it!! Idk how old I was, but I was a child.
I want to make a bookmark here to remind myself that I want to post something later ...not here, but elsewhere.
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