Conversation with An Atheist

[Mancunian]

A simple question . HOW do you believe it all began . And if it began
then what was before it began .
Again that was a question that came to me when i was in kindergarten .
But you give it a whirl . HOW do you think it all began .
And seeing TIME to us seems to have a beginning
THEN what was even before that TIME .
YOU want answers . SO did i when i was in kindergarten .
But if you take heed to what i say you wont have to wait almost thirty plus years
before you get some , SOME of those answers .
SO go ahead , the FLOOR IS YOURS . HOW did IT ALL BEGIN
and if it began , WHAT WAS BEFORE THAT . YOU cannot get anything FROM NOTHINGNESS .
you have the floor . GO ahead . start talking i am all ears bud .

I don't know, and don't pretend to, you have it all figured out obviously.... God did it.

For argument sake I'll agree that God did it, he created everything.. Now all you have to do is convince me that it was in fact, your version of God that did it.

 

[RLT63]

I don't know, and don't pretend to, you have it all figured out obviously.... God did it.

For argument sake I'll agree that God did it, he created everything.. Now all you have to do is convince me that it was in fact, your version of God that did it.

Maybe God will have to do that himself

 

[Mancunian]

so my question to YOU is
Explain the origin of the universe or indeed even life .
SOMETHING cannot come f rom nothing .
Go ahead , i would like to hear your answer .

I don't pretend to know, I leave that to the likes of you who assert exactly which God is responsible.

 

[Mancunian]

Maybe God will have to do that himself

Well, if I was God, I wouldn't trust amigodechristo to do it.

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know, and don't pretend to, you have it all figured out obviously.... God did it.

For argument sake I'll agree that God did it, he created everything.. Now all you have to do is convince me that it was in fact, your version of God that did it.

No sir , i never once said i have it ALL figured out .
I only asked you a question .
God does not or has not made me ALL KNOWING bud . and any man that acts like he did is full of his own self .
You must be kidding me right .
YOU just asked me to CONVINCE YOU
Friend i am NOT GOD . I am NOT GOD my friend .
I CANNOT convince you .
I can only speak the truth .
But i can ask you a question .
What is it you t ruly desire out of life .
Go ahead . tell me
What do you desire in t his life .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well, if I was God, I wouldn't trust amigodechristo to do it.

THANK GOD for that . I DARN sure would not trust me TO DO IT either .
I am but man . man makes a mess of many things my f riend .
ITS WHY man cannot do it . HELLO . thank you for saying that .

 

[Wrangler]

Does there have to be a point to it all? It could be pointless....

Speculation is not an answer. 2+ 2 could be 5, but is it? Is 5 the answer? No, not without word play. As an Atheist, you don’t have an answer to why is there anything.

Prager points out 2 other questions Atheists can’t answer.

1. How did life come from non-life?
2. How did consciousness, self awareness, come from a universe of non-awareness?

To be an atheist is to believe the universe came about by itself, life came from non-life, and consciousness came by itself. As I said, I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist.

 

[Mancunian]

Speculation is not an answer. 2+ 2 could be 5, but is it? Is 5 the answer? No, not without word play. As an Atheist, you don’t have an answer to why is there anything.

Prager points out 2 other questions Atheists can’t answer.

1. How did life come from non-life?
2. How did consciousness, self awareness, come from a universe of non-awareness?

To be an atheist is to believe the universe came about by itself, life came from non-life, and consciousness came by itself. As I said, I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist.

1. The current thinking is that the ingredients needed to form life came to earth from space, carried here by comets. The conditions on the planet at the time were perfect for those ingredients to react with the environment and allow simple single celled organisms to emerge.
2.Who says that there was a universal none-awareness? But even if there was, a highly evolved brain takes care of that particular problem.
You don't need faith to be an atheist.

 

[Wrangler]

Evolution baby!

Evolution explains so much to Atheists despite the fact that there is no evidence it ever happened; not on peculiar has one kind of animal became another kind of animal.

We are pattern seekers, we want to know what the point in being here is...
If we can't see an answer, we make one up.

Does this tendency to make up answers also apply to Atheists who make up evolution despite no evidence of it actually happening?

 

[Wrangler]

1. The current thinking is that the ingredients needed to form life came to earth from space, carried here by comets. The conditions on the planet at the time were perfect for those ingredients to react with the environment and allow simple single celled organisms to emerge.

“Current thinking” is a belief statement, just using different words.

2.Who says that there was a universal none-awareness? But even if there was, a highly evolved brain takes care of that particular problem.
You don't need faith to be an atheist.

Who says there has to be universal non-awareness?! What kind of evolutionist are you?!

You need to have MORE FAITH to be an Atheist than to be theist.

 

[Sel@h]

we want to know what the point in being here is...

The real question is whether we will follow Jesus throughout our lives or follow Satan. Will we reach eternity, or will we face the second death and be blotted out.

 

[Mancunian]

Evolution explains so much to Atheists despite the fact that there is no evidence it ever happened; not on peculiar has one kind of animal became another kind of animal.



Does this tendency to make up answers also apply to Atheists who make up evolution despite no evidence of it actually happening?

Residual bones found in modern day whales?
These bones are remnants from the whales land dwelling ancestry.
Check it out, it's fascinating.

 

[Mancunian]

Modern whales do not have external legs or walk on land, but they retain internal pelvic bones and occasional remnants of femurs as evolutionary relics from their four-legged ancestors.

 

[Mancunian]

While you're at it check out why the laryngeal nerve in giraffes is so long.

 

[Mancunian]

“Current thinking” is a belief statement, just using different words.


Who says there has to be universal non-awareness?! What kind of evolutionist are you?!

You need to have MORE FAITH to be an Atheist than to be theist.

Not at all, following current evidence is all that I can do.

 

[Mancunian]

More evidence

Whale Pelvic Bones: Whales and dolphins descend from four-legged, land-walking mammals. Inside their modern bodies, they retain tiny, unattached pelvic and leg bones that are evolutionary remnants from their walking ancestors.

Blind Cave Fish Eyes: Cave-dwelling fish live in total darkness. Over generations, natural selection stopped maintaining complex eyes, leaving them with tiny, degenerate, or skin-covered eye sockets while enhancing other senses like touch and smell.

Flightless Bird Wings: Birds like ostriches, emus, and kiwis possess wings that are completely useless for flight. These structures are inherited from flying ancestors and have been repurposed for balance, running speed, or mating displays.

Snake Spurs/Vestigial Limbs: Some snakes (such as pythons and boas) retain tiny external claw-like spurs that are the evolutionary remnants of the hind legs of their four-legged lizard ancestors.

The Mammalian Appendix: Found in various mammals (including humans and certain primates), this small tube was once a larger cecum used to ferment tough plant cellulose in herbivorous ancestors. While once thought entirely useless, modern research shows it can store beneficial gut bacteria, acting as an immune safe-house.

 

[RLT63]

More evidence

Whale Pelvic Bones: Whales and dolphins descend from four-legged, land-walking mammals. Inside their modern bodies, they retain tiny, unattached pelvic and leg bones that are evolutionary remnants from their walking ancestors.

Blind Cave Fish Eyes: Cave-dwelling fish live in total darkness. Over generations, natural selection stopped maintaining complex eyes, leaving them with tiny, degenerate, or skin-covered eye sockets while enhancing other senses like touch and smell.

Flightless Bird Wings: Birds like ostriches, emus, and kiwis possess wings that are completely useless for flight. These structures are inherited from flying ancestors and have been repurposed for balance, running speed, or mating displays.

Snake Spurs/Vestigial Limbs: Some snakes (such as pythons and boas) retain tiny external claw-like spurs that are the evolutionary remnants of the hind legs of their four-legged lizard ancestors.

The Mammalian Appendix: Found in various mammals (including humans and certain primates), this small tube was once a larger cecum used to ferment tough plant cellulose in herbivorous ancestors. While once thought entirely useless, modern research shows it can store beneficial gut bacteria, acting as an immune safe-house.

Emus cannot fly, so their small, vestigial wings are not used for flight. Instead, they serve several physical and behavioral purposes: [1, 2]

• • Cooling: Emus stretch out their wings in hot weather to let air move across their bodies and release heat. [1, 2]
  • Balance and Steering: While running at high speeds (up to 30 miles per hour), they use their wings for balance, stability, and making sharp turns or sudden changes in direction. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Communication and Displays: They use their wings during social interactions, mating displays, or to make themselves look larger when trying to intimidate predators.
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