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twinc

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did you choose to be created or was this done without your say so or know so, so why should your salvation be different - we must finally accept that in Him we move and live and have our being and salvation imho - twinc
 
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did you choose to be created or was this done without your say so or know so, so why should your salvation be different - we must finally accept that in Him we move and live and have our being and salvation imho - twinc


is that your opinion or the truth?


if it be your opinion then who cares; but if it be the Truth then Christians need to know. and if its the Truth, then its not your opinion, is it?
 

twinc

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is that your opinion or the truth?


if it be your opinion then who cares; but if it be the Truth then Christians need to know. and if its the Truth, then its not your opinion, is it?

it is the truth imho - how is it you do not seem to know or care or dare to even know - twinc
 

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did you choose to be created or was this done without your say so or know so, so why should your salvation be different - we must finally accept that in Him we move and live and have our being and salvation imho - twinc

No, no one chose to be created. That was the decision of God the Creator.

Our salvation is no different.

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did you choose to be created or was this done without your say so or know so, so why should your salvation be different - we must finally accept that in Him we move and live and have our being and salvation imho - twinc


If you are saying that salvation is "done without your say so or know so", then does the Catholic Church teach that truth?
If they do not, and if you are a member, what will happen to you for teaching that?
 

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If you are saying that salvation is "done without your say so or know so", then does the Catholic Church teach that truth?
If they do not, and if you are a member, what will happen to you for teaching that?

that truth = truth is what the Catholic Church teaches imho - twinc
 

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that truth = truth is what the Catholic Church teaches imho - twinc

"done without your say so or know so"
I'm pretty sure your Church says you must cooperate with grace. That is salvation with your say so.