A personal relationship

[BreadOfLife]

I think it has something to do with this,

Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
Mat 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Religion is all about works, its all about "seeing to be doing", gains nothing.

That is an anti-Biblical lie.

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Pure religion is about LIVING the Word and is not ONLY about works - and it gains you salvation.
We are to be DOERS of the Word and not just hearers (James 1:22) . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

Well you are a perfect example of what religion does to men. Put a tea bag into a cup of water, the longer it is in there, the stronger the cup of tea. Take any man and put him into any religion, teh longer he is in there teh more like his religion he will become, religion has no relationship with God, it is a relationship with itself,

1Co_6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

what dont you understand, that what you are joined tooo....

1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Why do you despise men who actually have a relationship with Christ, it is what Christianity is all about.

Mat_4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

Joh_10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh_10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

but why should you care, you have a religion to defend.

 

[aspen]

Well you are a perfect example of what religion does to men. Put a tea bag into a cup of water, the longer it is in there, the stronger the cup of tea. Take any man and put him into any religion, teh longer he is in there teh more like his religion he will become, religion has no relationship with God, it is a relationship with itself,

1Co_6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

what dont you understand, that what you are joined tooo....

1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Why do you despise men who actually have a relationship with Christ, it is what Christianity is all about.

Mat_4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

Joh_10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh_10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

but why should you care, you have a religion to defend.

Burying your treasure and calling yourself rich is self delusion. Church is an opportunity to practice loving difficult people - fail to practice, fail to transform

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well you are a perfect example of what religion does to men. Put a tea bag into a cup of water, the longer it is in there, the stronger the cup of tea. Take any man and put him into any religion, teh longer he is in there teh more like his religion he will become, religion has no relationship with God, it is a relationship with itself,

1Co_6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
what dont you understand, that what you are joined tooo....
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Why do you despise men who actually have a relationship with Christ, it is what Christianity is all about.
Mat_4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
Joh_10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh_10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

but why should you care, you have a religion to defend.

It doesn't do you ONE bit of good to get angry when you are proven wrong by Scripture.
You indicated that religion was bad - and I showed you that the Bible itself destroys that position.

Take your Scriptural lumps and move on . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

Burying your treasure and calling yourself rich is self delusion. Church is an opportunity to practice loving difficult people - fail to practice, fail to transform

Church is a place for men who love prison, who love to be seeing to be doing, what we do we do because we are Christians and for that there is no reward. When one is in church one must "conform" to that church, to become like Christ one must be in "Christ" that is how we are changed from Glory to Glory, by Him not our own works. If we are not in Him we cannot be changed to look like Him. You will become what you are joined to. That is why the anglican church cannot produce catholics etc etc.

 

[aspen]

Church is a place for men who love prison, who love to be seeing to be doing, what we do we do because we are Christians and for that there is no reward. When one is in church one must "conform" to that church, to become like Christ one must be in "Christ" that is how we are changed from Glory to Glory, by Him not our own works. If we are not in Him we cannot be changed to look like Him. You will become what you are joined to. That is why the anglican church cannot produce catholics etc etc.

Matthew 25:36

 

[mjrhealth]

It doesn't do you ONE bit of good to get angry when you are proven wrong by Scripture.
You indicated that religion was bad - and I showed you that the Bible itself destroys that position.

Take your Scriptural lumps and move on . . .

Yes BOL deny the truth, is all you do. You are your religion, it shows in all your posts.

 

[mjrhealth]

Matthew 25:36

And that has what to do with church.....

 

[APAK]

Ummmmm, Jesus, who is GOD Himself ordained the ritual of the Lord's Supper - the Eucharist (Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20).
Why you would say that rituals are strictly "man-made" is beyond me.

A Wedding ceremony is a ritual in which God IS present.
Why you would say that He is NOT is beyond me (Mark 10:9).

BreadOfLife:

Yes, of course it is 'a ritual' as all marriages are rituals. Some are more complex with pomp and parade. Some are more simple and humble in appearance.

The bond of marriage is spiritual and not physical. It can only be completed spiritually in the presence of God and the two that love the Lord. There are no proxies involved.

Bless you,

APAK

 

[aspen]

And that has what to do with church.....

According to your last post, church is a prison - your words

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes BOL deny the truth, is all you do. You are your religion, it shows in all your posts.

Thank GOD for forums like this that record what we write.
In post #21 - I obliterated your false motion that religion is bad by showing you the following Srciptural truth:

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

The Bible doesn't lie - like your online cult over at aggressivechristianity.net.

Pure religion is about LIVING the Word and is not ONLY about works - and it gains you salvation.
We are to be DOERS of the Word and not just hearers (James 1:22) . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

Thank GOD for forums like this that record what we write.
In post #21 - I obliterated your false motion that religion is bad by showing you the following Srciptural truth:

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

The Bible doesn't lie - like your online cult over at aggressivechristianity.net.

Pure religion is about LIVING the Word and is not ONLY about works - and it gains you salvation.
We are to be DOERS of the Word and not just hearers (James 1:22) . . .

Oh BOL is offended by the truth again, the hanger and hostility to the truth comes out as it always does, when you find Jesus, and you find His life in Him than you wont be so offended, and than you will have the truth and you will be set free.

God bless

 

[mjrhealth]

According to your last post, church is a prison - your words

It is, just like Egypt

Exo_8:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

but men would rather serve there churches. You become what you are joined to, it is how it is...

 

[BreadOfLife]

BreadOfLife:

Yes, of course it is 'a ritual' as all marriages are rituals. Some are more complex with pomp and parade. Some are more simple and humble in appearance.

The bond of marriage is spiritual and not physical. It can only be completed spiritually in the presence of God and the two that love the Lord. There are no proxies involved.

Bless you,

APAK

I'm talking about the wedding - not the marriage.
Marriage is not a ritual. Getting married IS.

In post #15 - you said:
"Rituals are visible, man-made, ultimately self-centered, mechanical and rote substitutes for the real 'invisible' spiritual processes ordained by God."

The Bible tells us that the joining of a man and woman is a work done by God Himself and not a "man-made substitute."

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh BOL is offended by the truth again, the hanger and hostility to the truth comes out as it always does, when you find Jesus, and you find His life in Him than you wont be so offended, and than you will have the truth and you will be set free.

God bless

Thanks for pretty much admitting that you got Scripturally-spanked the truth of Acts 9:31 . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

Thanks for pretty much admitting that you got Scripturally-spanked the truth of Acts 9:31 . . .

Church. they where not "churches" but gatherings of people, who where joined in the unity of Christ not the doctrines nor traditions of men. even that word "church" is a complete misinterpretation of that word ecclesia, and you being so smart would know that, But what does that matter to you, you have a religion to defend.

Exposing yourself BOL keep it up.

 

[aspen]

It is, just like Egypt

Exo_8:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

but men would rather serve there churches. You become what you are joined to, it is how it is...

So why are you, who calls yourself a Christian, not visiting the prisoners in church? Why are you not ministering to the Body of Christ? Practicing your sanctification by loving others in prison?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Church. they where not "churches" but gatherings of people, who where joined in the unity of Christ not the doctrines nor traditions of men. even that word "church" is a complete misinterpretation of that word ecclesia, and you being so smart would know that, But what does that matter to you, you have a religion to defend.

Exposing yourself BOL keep it up.

First of all - in case you didn't know this, words evolve.
This is the linguistic science of "etymology". Ekklesia is a GREEK term - not an English one.

That being said - you are CORRECT when you say that Acts 9:31 speaks of the CHURCH an not "Churches".
"Churches" were a product of your Protestant forefathers. Jesus established ONE Church - and YOU are outside of it.

 

[mjrhealth]

So why are you, who calls yourself a Christian, not visiting the prisoners in church? Why are you not ministering to the Body of Christ? Practicing your sanctification by loving others in prison?

Christians belong to Christ, they do the will of God, not the will of men nor themselves, it is whom they are joined to, not what they are joined to. Have you ever considered joining the JWs, they are a church to..

 

[aspen]

Christians belong to Christ, they do the will of God, not the will of men nor themselves, it is whom they are joined to, not what they are joined to. Have you ever considered joining the JWs, they are a church to..

So.....instead of loving those you view as prisioners.....you follow Trump, by doubling down on your one track mindedness.....

I speak with JWs frequently - their religion is especially difficult to love through, but many of them can do so.

Summing up the law by loving others - especially those you believe are in prison because they disagree with you is sanctification. Unless you are a perfect lover, you remain in your sin.